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Luuuc #NATC
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toad455
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Posted: 04/20/20 7:26 pm ::: |
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It's a shame that's all the got considering no other sports were on.
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PUmatty
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Posted: 04/20/20 8:22 pm ::: |
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toad455 wrote: |
It's a shame that's all the got considering no other sports were on. |
To be fair, the draft isn't really "sports."
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myrtle
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Luuuc #NATC
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Posted: 04/20/20 10:10 pm ::: |
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She said the beginning tribute to the girls who died was moving, but that after awhile the show seemed pretty boring and not very informative. And also that they stopped talking about the picks, just randomly put a list up. |
Fair summary IMO.
I thought the opportunity to introduce a bunch of new personalities to us fans was largely wasted, and doing things like returning from a commercial break with a bunch of new names on the screen was disrespectful. It wasn't much different to the other drafts, despite having sufficient time for it to me much better.
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Richyyy
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Posted: 04/20/20 10:53 pm ::: |
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For a minute there I thought you meant they'd spent an inordinate amount of time covering Kobi Thornton... |
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pilight
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Posted: 04/21/20 9:44 am ::: |
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WNBA Delivers Most-Watched Draft in 16 Years
https://www.wnba.com/news/wnba-delivers-most-watched-draft-in-16-years/
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This year’s event, which was held virtually in light of the COVID-19 pandemic, averaged 387,000 viewers on ESPN, up 123 percent over the 2019 Draft, and up 33 percent from the last time it aired on the network in 2011. |
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Posted: 04/23/20 9:37 am ::: |
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Are they sure Willoughby went to Virginia? She sounds like she could have went to Stanford. |
Isn't UVA widely considered to be one of the top public institutions in the country? |
She is apparently very smart and hard working. Here are some of her accomplishments listed on her bio at UVA:
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Appointed as a non-voting, student-athlete member of the NCAA Division I Women’s Basketball Oversight Committee. Her tenure runs through her senior season
Meriwether Lewis Institute for Citizen Leadership Fellow (Class of 2020 cohort)
Lived on The Lawn during the 2018-19 academic year
During UVA’s 2018 Fall Convocation Ceremony, she received a certificate of Intermediate Honors, a distinction given to third-year students who are among the top 20 percent of their class in the College of Arts & Sciences
Completed her undergraduate degree in Global Development Studies in three years and graduated in May 2019
Working on her Master’s degree at UVA's Batten School of Public Policy (began in July 2019)
2019 Raven Award student recipient, presented by the Raven Society
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2019-20 CoSIDA Academic All-America Division I women's basketball third team. She was one of 15 players nationally to be named an academic All-American. She is the seventh player in program history to earn the honor and the first to do so since Jenny Boucek in 1996
2019-20 Kay Yow Award winner, honoring the ACC Women's Basketball Scholar-Athlete of the Year. She is the first player in program history to win this award
https://virginiasports.com/sports/womens-basketball/roster/jocelyn-willoughby/6658 |
Wow! What an impressive young woman. I mean, how does one person get allllll the gifts?
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Stormeo
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Posted: 04/23/20 1:45 pm ::: |
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I find it interesting that we didn't see the two UConn prospects have particularly "inflated" selections (get picked higher than they should have due to to the pedigree of their program) like we traditionally have seen in past years imo. While both certainly had their own red flags as prospects, such as Walker's underperformance in big games and Dangerfield's height/defensive concerns, both undeniably were talented enough to be top prospects for the League and emerged as star players for UConn (well, at least in this past season anyway), as the stats will show. And it's not like UConn wasn't a Top 10 program this year, but was that slippage from the top spot NCAA WBB has collectively grown accustomed to over time a big part of the reason why the prospects didn't get picked higher? It'll be interesting to see, if the team can't get back to being #1 for stretches of time, where WNBA prospects from UConn will get picked in the next few years. There isn't scheduled to be any UConn draftees in 2021 now that Walker has left early, but 2022 is scheduled to have both Christyn Williams and Olivia Nelson-Ododa - both of whom were highly ranked out of high school and neither of whom have particularly shown to be playing at their best with any sort of consistency, as of yet.
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Posted: 04/23/20 4:06 pm ::: |
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I suspect the fact that some UConn players have clearly been picked too early has made GMs/Coaches a bit more discerning.
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Richyyy
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Posted: 04/23/20 4:20 pm ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
I suspect the fact that some UConn players have clearly been picked too early has made GMs/Coaches a bit more discerning. |
Some have also been picked too late. Tiffany Hayes springs to mind, and based on rookie season alone Collier last year. By average do they actually get picked too early, or do so many UConn players get drafted generally that it just feels like they do? |
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Posted: 04/23/20 4:24 pm ::: |
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Richyyy wrote: |
myrtle wrote: |
I suspect the fact that some UConn players have clearly been picked too early has made GMs/Coaches a bit more discerning. |
Some have also been picked too late. Tiffany Hayes springs to mind, and based on rookie season alone Collier last year. By average do they actually get picked too early, or do so many UConn players get drafted generally that it just feels like they do? |
Don't forget Nurse.
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Posted: 04/23/20 4:32 pm ::: |
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In the past Geno generally had his pick of the litter and that eventually translated into them being top picks. The WCBB landscape has changed and more and more talented players are entering the pool. They are also being dispersed more to the various other top programs that have emerged in WCBB. I doubt that any program will dominate either college basketball and the draft as consistently as they once did.
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toad455
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Posted: 04/23/20 5:13 pm ::: |
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Walker might start at PF for New York, but I do wonder if she thought she'd go higher(#5 to DAL or #6 to MIN). She might have been a lottery pick in 2021.
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Posted: 04/24/20 12:21 am ::: |
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willtalk wrote: |
In the past Geno generally had his pick of the litter and that eventually translated into them being top picks. The WCBB landscape has changed and more and more talented players are entering the pool. They are also being dispersed more to the various other top programs that have emerged in WCBB. I doubt that any program will dominate either college basketball and the draft as consistently as they once did. |
Geno still has the pick of the litter. He still gets the number one ranked player coming out of high school more often than not and he has starting lineups made up of players who mostly ranked in the top 5 by a least one recruiting service.
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Posted: 04/24/20 7:54 am ::: |
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Randy wrote: |
Richyyy wrote: |
myrtle wrote: |
I suspect the fact that some UConn players have clearly been picked too early has made GMs/Coaches a bit more discerning. |
Some have also been picked too late. Tiffany Hayes springs to mind, and based on rookie season alone Collier last year. By average do they actually get picked too early, or do so many UConn players get drafted generally that it just feels like they do? |
Don't forget Nurse. |
Actually, the only one I can think of that was picked too early was Tuck. But, relatively, within a couple of picks no one else. A lot of players get picked too early but you can't blame the University or pedigree, it's the one choosing.
These professional teams are choosing the best players they can, it's their livelihood and can make mistakes. They cannot afford personal biases but sometimes fans do.
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Posted: 04/25/20 2:13 pm ::: |
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RavenDog wrote: |
Randy wrote: |
Richyyy wrote: |
myrtle wrote: |
I suspect the fact that some UConn players have clearly been picked too early has made GMs/Coaches a bit more discerning. |
Some have also been picked too late. Tiffany Hayes springs to mind, and based on rookie season alone Collier last year. By average do they actually get picked too early, or do so many UConn players get drafted generally that it just feels like they do? |
Don't forget Nurse. |
Actually, the only one I can think of that was picked too early was Tuck. But, relatively, within a couple of picks no one else. A lot of players get picked too early but you can't blame the University or pedigree, it's the one choosing.
These professional teams are choosing the best players they can, it's their livelihood and can make mistakes. They cannot afford personal biases but sometimes fans do. |
Kiah Stokes averaged 4.5 ppg and 6.8 rebounds per game as a senior with similar averages throughout her career. She was an excellent defender, but I doubt she gets drafted at all with a similar career at any other school, let alone in the first round.
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myrtle
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Posted: 04/25/20 2:41 pm ::: |
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In recent times, KML was clearly picked way too early.
It's yet to be seen about MoJeff, but she could also be one of those 'way to early' picks.
I really like Gabby but her tweener status with no shot certainly raises warning flags about her career. She could develop...
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Posted: 04/25/20 2:43 pm ::: |
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i think the catch here is almost everyone noticed she was always sharing time/playing behind dolson, stewart, tuck... add in jefferson, KML, hartley, williams, etc.
i think yes if she averages those numbers for say maryland, she's not even drafted... but the talent was clearly there and i would say for the most part, when she got minutes, she produced. sometimes there just aren't enough minutes to go around.
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