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Posted: 03/10/20 4:57 pm ::: Re: Penny Toler files suit against Sparks |
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Randy
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Posted: 03/10/20 5:51 pm ::: |
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In addition to the excessive partying with Holoman and Simmons during the season, Parker was allowed to travel to and from games with Holoman and Simmons on a private plane, while her teammates traveled to and
from games in coach on commercial flights. |
From the complaint - if true seems like a violation of league rules.
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Posted: 03/10/20 5:54 pm ::: |
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In addition to the excessive partying with Holoman and Simmons during the season, Parker was allowed to travel to and from games with Holoman and Simmons on a private plane, while her teammates traveled to and
from games in coach on commercial flights. |
From the complaint - if true seems like a violation of league rules. |
As usual, the Sparks are not subject to the same rules as everyone else
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Posted: 03/10/20 5:56 pm ::: |
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FC43WU6UWtO5hHjnmt8ZbL4WNY2j8vrG/view |
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Simmons, whose presence was not required in the locker room, was known to bring alcohol into the locker room (at a time when there was no championship celebration, and no reason to have alcohol in the locker room). In 2019, at a time when she was no longer employed by the Sparks, Simmons was observed entering the Sparks' locker room on multiple occasions while drunk. At times, she was accompanied by Holoman who was also drunk. |
Sex, Drugs, and the LA Sparks...
The only reason someone would wanna f*ck someone as old & baggy-faced as Agler is if they wanted to further their career in the league. (If there's anything to say about Derek Fisher & his conduct, a player in the know should speak out sooner rather than later at this point...) I myself would go after a Walt Hopkins-type if I were that kind of player, but I digress lol.
Reminds me of a certain Lana Del Rey song/song title from her Ultraviolence album.
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Posted: 03/10/20 7:13 pm ::: Re: Penny Toler files suit against Sparks |
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Luuuc wrote: |
WNBA 09 wrote: |
bballjunkie wrote: |
mavcarter wrote: |
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WOAHHHHHHHHHH Agler and a player....hmmmmm might we guess whom that may be ??? I have a good idea
Along with Toler tried to trade Candace Parker , but Eric H shut it down . |
You’re not just going to drop all that and just leave..
EDIT: [Deleted] is the only one that makes sense.. |
First off, are you effing joking putting shit like that on this board with no facts. Second if you knew anyone in the W you would know it was a foreign player and unlike you I know who it was but would not put their name on here. |
You do need to tone it down , this is what the thread topic is about . |
Naming names that are wrong is not what this site is about.
Player movement guesses that turn out to be wrong are kinda harmless. But when we're talking about who is allegedly sleeping with Brian Agler .... I dunno .... to me that's not something you want to throw an incorrect name at, because, well,... gross!!
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100%
Playing the guessing game on something like this is just wrong on so many levels. Not to mention it's basically playing "who's the victim".
Agler's alleged behavior is repugnant and unethical, even beyond any violation of league rules. A coach having a sexual relationship with one of their players is akin to me having a relationship with one of my adult students or graduate assistants. It disgusts me beyond words. The amount of authority a coach has over a player and how significantly they can affect their careers for good or ill makes the ability for a player to consent to such a relationship murky at best.
If true, he has no business coaching in the WNBA, just as a professor who sleeps with their students has no business teaching.
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Posted: 03/10/20 7:23 pm ::: Re: Penny Toler files suit against Sparks |
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justintyme wrote: |
Luuuc wrote: |
WNBA 09 wrote: |
bballjunkie wrote: |
mavcarter wrote: |
WNBA 09 wrote: |
WOAHHHHHHHHHH Agler and a player....hmmmmm might we guess whom that may be ??? I have a good idea
Along with Toler tried to trade Candace Parker , but Eric H shut it down . |
You’re not just going to drop all that and just leave..
EDIT: [Deleted] is the only one that makes sense.. |
First off, are you effing joking putting shit like that on this board with no facts. Second if you knew anyone in the W you would know it was a foreign player and unlike you I know who it was but would not put their name on here. |
You do need to tone it down , this is what the thread topic is about . |
Naming names that are wrong is not what this site is about.
Player movement guesses that turn out to be wrong are kinda harmless. But when we're talking about who is allegedly sleeping with Brian Agler .... I dunno .... to me that's not something you want to throw an incorrect name at, because, well,... gross!!
Also, whoah |
100%
Playing the guessing game on something like this is just wrong on so many levels. Not to mention it's basically playing "who's the victim".
Agler's alleged behavior is repugnant and unethical, even beyond any violation of league rules. A coach having a sexual relationship with one of their players is akin to me having a relationship with one of my adult students or graduate assistants. It disgusts me beyond words. The amount of authority a coach has over a player and how significantly they can affect their careers for good or ill makes the ability for a player to consent to such a relationship murky at best.
If true, he has no business coaching in the WNBA, just as a professor who sleeps with their students has no business teaching. |
He would not be the first to do this and still be a coach in the WNBA right ? Back then it was ok to speculate about that duo or was it more appropriate because it was on the college platform ? I do agree its not fair to say players names without having facts .
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Randy
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Posted: 03/10/20 7:26 pm ::: |
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So now the question is, or should be, does the new Commissioner open an investigation into the allegations in the complaint. There seem to be plenty of things to investigate.....BTW - what happened to the last investigation concerning the Toler pep talk?
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ucbart
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Posted: 03/10/20 7:30 pm ::: |
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Can you imagine what the group messages are like between the players today? I bet phones are just blowing uuuuppppppp.
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justintyme
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Posted: 03/10/20 7:44 pm ::: Re: Penny Toler files suit against Sparks |
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He would not be the first to do this and still be a coach in the WNBA right ? Back then it was ok to speculate about that duo or was it more appropriate because it was on the college platform ? I do agree its not fair to say players names without having facts . |
Yes, unfortunately this has happened before without much as far as long term ramifications. But I would hope that even in the last couple years since the #MeToo movement our understanding of the role power dynamics can play on consent and just how problematic these sorts of relationships are, has deepened.
As far as names, yes, I would stick to what is actually being reported and publicly shared. I get the impulse to try and figure it out, it's a pretty human response. It's just that when you step back and think about it, it's kind of gross, and really not what we should be about here.
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