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PostPosted: 02/03/20 5:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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pilight wrote:
Kobe Bryant and the Perils of the 'Transcendent' Athlete

https://www.theroot.com/kobe-bryant-and-the-perils-of-the-transcendent-athlete-1841367086

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we don’t know what a script without the rape case looks like for Bryant’s career. We do know that the case was formative: that the trajectory of his life, and his career, is cleaved between before that night in Colorado, and after.

That was a really well written article. It also helps to highlight exactly why so much disinformation is out there (like how people believe the ME said that the injuries had to do with multiple partners, rather than saying specifically they were consistent with rape and is why her blood ended up on his clothes and that it was the defense that kept suggesting the multiple partner bit based on DNA found in underwear that she hadn't even been wearing that night). The reason why defenses run those smear campaigns against alleged victims is quite simple: because it works.

I would seriously challenge people to go back and really take a look at what evidence was presented and everything surrounding that case with post-#meToo eyes and an open mind. Lindsay Gibbs (one of the Athletic's Mystic WNBA reporters now) wrote a very detailed article back in 2016 that people should read if they want an accurate understanding of the situation.

https://thinkprogress.org/the-legacy-of-the-kobe-bryant-rape-case-6a42f159be7b/

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Kobe and Gianna Bryant memorial service set for Feb. 24 at Staples Center

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A memorial service celebrating the lives of Lakers legend Kobe Bryant and his daughter Gianna will be held the morning of Feb. 24 at Staples Center in Los Angeles.

There is significance in the date, which reflects the basketball jersey numbers worn by Kobe (No. 24) and Gianna (No. 2). Gianna Bryant's jersey was retired by Harbor Day School in Corona Del Mar, California, on Thursday.

Kobe Bryant, 13-year-old Gianna and seven others died in a helicopter crash in Calabasas, California, on Jan. 26. They were headed to Mamba Sports Academy in Thousand Oaks for Gianna's team's game.


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The date for the memorial was finalized with planning and coordination from the City of Los Angeles, the Los Angeles Police Department and the LA Clippers, who have a 7:30 p.m. game at Staples that day against the Memphis Grizzlies.

Staples, which opened in 1999, has played host to other memorials, including for Michael Jackson and, last year, for rapper Nipsey Hussle. Bryant, who joined the NBA in 1996, played for the Lakers at the Forum for three seasons.


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28649215/kobe-gianna-bryant-memorial-service-set-feb-24-staples-center




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PostPosted: 02/07/20 7:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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And I thought the memorial service was going to take place at the L.A. Memorial Coliseum, mainly because of its much larger capacity.

Staples can seat about 20,000 people. The Memorial Coliseum holds more than triple that amount.



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PostPosted: 02/07/20 8:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Kobe Bryant helicopter was 100 feet from clear skies before crash, investigators say

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The veteran pilot, Ara Zobayan, came agonizingly close to finding his way out of the clouds.

He told air traffic control he was climbing to 4,000 feet (1,219 meters). He ascended to 2,300 feet (701 meters), just 100 feet (30 meters) from what camera footage later reviewed by the NTSB showed was the top of the clouds.

But rather than continuing higher, Zobayan began a high-speed descent and left turn in rapidly rising terrain. He slammed into the hillside at more than 180 mph (290 kph) and was descending at 4,000 feet (1,219 meters) per minute.

"If you exit the bottom of the clouds at 4,000 feet per minute at that high speed, you've certainly lost control of the aircraft," air safety consultant Kipp Lau said. He said Bryant's chopper could have emerged from the clouds in just 12 more seconds, assuming it was ascending at 500 feet (152 meters) per minute.

"Once you break out of the clouds, it's clear. Everything lines up with the body," Lau said. "Now you have a real horizon."

Mike Sagely, a helicopter pilot in the Los Angeles area with 35 years of flying experience, said the aircraft's last minutes suggest Zobayan had started to execute a maneuver designed to pop above the clouds by flying up and forward.

"When he went into the clouds, he had a full on emergency," Sagely said.

When pilots try to turn instead of sticking with the pop-up maneuver, "probably in the neighborhood of 80 to 90% of the time, it's catastrophic," he said.


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28654661/kobe-bryant-helicopter-was-100-feet-clear-skies-crash-investigators-say




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PostPosted: 02/08/20 7:08 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8AU85gBlon/



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PostPosted: 02/08/20 9:06 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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https://www.instagram.com/p/B8AU85gBlon/


Shades/whoever has the power:

Is there any way that the "Kobe Bryant" thread on the WNBA board could be moved over here? It's not WNBA news. http://boards.rebkell.net/viewtopic.php?t=97609


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PostPosted: 02/08/20 11:08 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Carol Anne wrote:
Shades wrote:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B8AU85gBlon/


Shades/whoever has the power:

Is there any way that the "Kobe Bryant" thread on the WNBA board could be moved over here? It's not WNBA news. http://boards.rebkell.net/viewtopic.php?t=97609

While not technically WNBA, it's definitely tangential enough due to the number of WNBA players/ex-players quoted (and the WNBA itself) to belong in that section.



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PostPosted: 02/08/20 11:19 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

justintyme wrote:
Carol Anne wrote:
Shades wrote:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B8AU85gBlon/


Shades/whoever has the power:

Is there any way that the "Kobe Bryant" thread on the WNBA board could be moved over here? It's not WNBA news. http://boards.rebkell.net/viewtopic.php?t=97609

While not technically WNBA, it's definitely tangential enough due to the number of WNBA players/ex-players quoted (and the WNBA itself) to belong in that section.


have to message one of the moderates to get a thread merged.



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PostPosted: 02/08/20 12:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
justintyme wrote:
Carol Anne wrote:
Shades wrote:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B8AU85gBlon/


Shades/whoever has the power:

Is there any way that the "Kobe Bryant" thread on the WNBA board could be moved over here? It's not WNBA news. http://boards.rebkell.net/viewtopic.php?t=97609

While not technically WNBA, it's definitely tangential enough due to the number of WNBA players/ex-players quoted (and the WNBA itself) to belong in that section.


have to message one of the moderates to get a thread merged.

Odd thing to reply to a moderator with... Razz

I see no need to merge the threads. Different people tend to populate these sections of the boards, and as I just noted it is a reasonable inclusion in the WNBA section.



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PostPosted: 02/08/20 5:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

justintyme wrote:
toad455 wrote:
justintyme wrote:
Carol Anne wrote:
Shades wrote:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B8AU85gBlon/


Shades/whoever has the power:

Is there any way that the "Kobe Bryant" thread on the WNBA board could be moved over here? It's not WNBA news. http://boards.rebkell.net/viewtopic.php?t=97609

While not technically WNBA, it's definitely tangential enough due to the number of WNBA players/ex-players quoted (and the WNBA itself) to belong in that section.


have to message one of the moderates to get a thread merged.

Odd thing to reply to a moderator with... Razz

I see no need to merge the threads. Different people tend to populate these sections of the boards, and as I just noted it is a reasonable inclusion in the WNBA section.

It's not possible to merge with this ancient version of the software unfortunately.



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Can we come out now? Is it safe, yet, to speak or write the truth? Or is it still too soon?


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His non-consensual sex victim? Why would anyone care about her? Close your eyes and ears. No, tighter.

And if it’s highly improper to bring up that rape case, no one will even care to recall Bryant’s $100,000 fine in 2011 for calling an NBA ref a slur for homosexuals.

Of course, if you don’t worry about what you’re called — Harry Truman: “I don’t care what they call me as long as it’s not true” — or if you have a greater regard for the truth than stir-and-serve myth, you wait until you’re no longer able to keep the lid on a blunt, boiling truth.

So here it is: Kobe Bryant was a great basketball player who loved his kids. Many of us have half of that covered. But he was not what he has become — what the nation and most media insisted he become — since Jan 26.


https://nypost.com/2020/02/08/is-it-safe-to-speak-the-truth-about-kobe-bryant/

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Kobe Bryant, star athlete, adored husband, beloved superdad, was no rapist. That should be the end of it. Nothing to see here. Sadly, in this #MeToo era, it isn’t.

So many people who don’t know what they’re talking about have been mewling lately about the “tarnished legacy’’ of the NBA superstar, who died tragically in a helicopter crash along with his 13-year-old daughter, Gianna, and seven other people on Jan. 26.


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I attended the case’s 2003 preliminary hearing in Eagle, Colorado — a kind of mini-trial to determine if there is to be a real one. I traveled to the altitude sickness-inducing town 6,000 feet above sea level expecting to see Bryant presented as a spoiled testosterone case who didn’t understand the meaning of “no.”


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He concluded with, “Although I truly believe this encounter was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did. . . . I now understand she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.”

I think the hoops star’s apology amounted to a classy way to end this mess. That, and the undisclosed sum he paid the woman to prevent a civil suit.

As I see it, this matter was between Bryant and his wife. And she forgave him (reportedly after he presented her with a large diamond).

They remained married and had three more daughters, including basketball-loving Gianna — Gigi — who died with her dad. I would hope we could put this sordid chapter behind us, and remember Kobe Bryant as the good, loyal man he was.

Let the dead rest in peace.


https://nypost.com/2020/02/10/kobe-bryant-was-no-rapist/



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"Why should I be able to wake up another day when my baby girl isn't being able to have that opportunity?!" Vanessa wrote.

"God I wish they were here and this nightmare would be over," she added.

Vanessa said in spite of her grief, she recognizes that she needs to be strong for her family. Kobe is survived by Vanessa and their three daughters, 17-year-old Natalia, 3-year-old Bianka, and 9-month-old Capri.

"I realize I need to be strong and be here for my 3 daughters," Vanessa captioned the video. "Mad I'm not with Kobe and Gigi but thankful I'm here with Natalia, Bianka and Capri."


https://www.businessinsider.com/vanessa-bryant-instagram-video-raw-grief-kobe-gianna-death-2020-2



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Kobe and Gianna Have Been Laid To Rest

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The NBA legend and his 13-year-old daughter have been laid to rest, E! News can confirm. The private Los Angeles funeral comes just two weeks after the pair—along with passengers Christina Mauser, John Altobelli, Keri Altobelli, Alyssa Altobelli, Sarah Chester, Payton Chester and pilot Ara Zobayan—tragically passed away in a helicopter crash. At the time of the incident, the group were headed for a basketball tournament at Kobe's Mamba Sport Academy.

Though the ceremony was held privately, a public memorial will be held on February 24 at the Staples Center in downtown Los Angeles, giving fans an opportunity to pay their respects. "We are one city that believes in each other, believes in something bigger than ourselves," Mayor Eric Garcetti has said. "We will absolutely do everything to make sure that this is done so that everybody can come to it as well."


https://www.eonline.com/uk/news/1122168/kobe-bryant-and-daughter-gianna-laid-to-rest-2-weeks-after-tragic-helicopter-crash





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Resting Place for Kobe and Gianna





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Kobe & Gianna's Resting Place






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Kobe Bryant was one of eight finalists announced as candidates for enshrinement into the Basketball Hall of Fame later this year, a decision that came as absolutely no surprise in his first year of eligibility.


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Joining Bryant as first-time finalists for the Hall: 15-time All-Star Tim Duncan, fellow 15-time All-Star Kevin Garnett and 10-time WNBA All-Star and four-time Olympic gold medalist Tamika Catchings.

The other finalists have all been to this point previously: Baylor women’s coach Kim Mulkey, former Houston Rockets coach Rudy Tomjanovich, five-time Division II women’s coach of the year Barbara Stevens of Bentley, and four-time national men’s college coach of the year Eddie Sutton.


https://www.usnews.com/news/sports/articles/2020-02-14/kobe-bryant-among-8-finalists-for-basketball-hall-of-fame



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I wonder if he'll make it



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Kobe & Gianna's Resting Place





I don't understand these things. Where are they?



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^They were probably cremated, especially Gianna because the three children were beyond repair. The headstone will be engraved at a later date as they usually are for those who are buried.



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