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The #LawlessGOP has had no problem making complete asses of themselves throughout the proceedings.
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cthskzfn
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| Posted: 12/19/19 7:31 pm ::: |
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He won’t be removed, but this was necessary for our country.
Tulsi votes Present. Lol. |
Yeah. 
When should we expect her announcement to run as "3rd party" candidate? |
How does casting a vote guaranteed to please no one set up a presidential run?
Never thought I'd use this word to describe Gabbard, but that was cowardly |
Dare we believe Hillary may have been prescient??  |
Has she been wrong about anything as concerns the election? |
She misjudged the last one so badly that people are hesitant to believe her this time around |
Any specifics? |
Giving up on working class voters, failing to appeal to the "Obama coalition" of young voters and minorities, focusing on identity politics rather than "the economy, stupid", choosing not to campaign in states she needed to win, etc. |
-Working class voters who voted on the economy voted for Clinton. Those who voted on "demographics" voted for Trump.
-Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Minnesota are the states Manafort gave inside polling data about to Kiliminik.
-She received nearly 3,000,000 more votes
-Comey's bullshit announcement
-Anti-HRC mainstream media coverage
-Everything she said about Trump is true
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pilight
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| Posted: 12/19/19 8:33 pm ::: |
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He won’t be removed, but this was necessary for our country.
Tulsi votes Present. Lol. |
Yeah.
When should we expect her announcement to run as "3rd party" candidate? |
How does casting a vote guaranteed to please no one set up a presidential run?
Never thought I'd use this word to describe Gabbard, but that was cowardly |
Dare we believe Hillary may have been prescient?? |
Has she been wrong about anything as concerns the election? |
She misjudged the last one so badly that people are hesitant to believe her this time around |
Any specifics? |
Giving up on working class voters, failing to appeal to the "Obama coalition" of young voters and minorities, focusing on identity politics rather than "the economy, stupid", choosing not to campaign in states she needed to win, etc. |
-Working class voters who voted on the economy voted for Clinton. Those who voted on "demographics" voted for Trump.
-Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Minnesota are the states Manafort gave inside polling data about to Kiliminik.
-She received nearly 3,000,000 more votes
-Comey's bullshit announcement
-Anti-HRC mainstream media coverage
-Everything she said about Trump is true |
If you want to relitigate 2016 and pretend Clinton ran a perfect campaign, knock yourself out. I have no interest in going over that well salted ground.
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cthskzfn
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| Posted: 12/19/19 10:13 pm ::: |
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| pilight wrote: |
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| pilight wrote: |
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| pilight wrote: |
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| Howee wrote: |
| pilight wrote: |
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| mercfan3 wrote: |
He won’t be removed, but this was necessary for our country.
Tulsi votes Present. Lol. |
Yeah.
When should we expect her announcement to run as "3rd party" candidate? |
How does casting a vote guaranteed to please no one set up a presidential run?
Never thought I'd use this word to describe Gabbard, but that was cowardly |
Dare we believe Hillary may have been prescient?? |
Has she been wrong about anything as concerns the election? |
She misjudged the last one so badly that people are hesitant to believe her this time around |
Any specifics? |
Giving up on working class voters, failing to appeal to the "Obama coalition" of young voters and minorities, focusing on identity politics rather than "the economy, stupid", choosing not to campaign in states she needed to win, etc. |
-Working class voters who voted on the economy voted for Clinton. Those who voted on "demographics" voted for Trump.
-Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Minnesota are the states Manafort gave inside polling data about to Kiliminik.
-She received nearly 3,000,000 more votes
-Comey's bullshit announcement
-Anti-HRC mainstream media coverage
-Everything she said about Trump is true |
If you want to relitigate 2016 and pretend Clinton ran a perfect campaign, knock yourself out. I have no interest in going over that well salted ground. |
Another of your well-done bait and switch answers.
I never said HRC ran a perfect campaign, nor am I interested in re-litigating the election. What I am interested in is making sure the popular criticism of HRC is called out for being the bullshit that it is.
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| Posted: 12/19/19 10:23 pm ::: |
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| No one knows if Trump is constitutionally impeached as of right now. Some say he's not impeached until the house managers deliver the articles of impeachment to the Senate -- that is, a vote for impeachment is not THE impeachment. Others say the vote for the impeachment IS the impeachment. We are in constitutional never-never-land. |
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| Posted: 12/20/19 8:12 am ::: |
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Go Dems!
Let more of the corruption come to light while denying MoscowMitch and the rest of the LawlessGOP the ability to run their sham trial to "exonerate" the PutinPuppet.
Oh yeah, Trump IS impeached. #IMPOTUS
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| Posted: 12/20/19 9:22 am ::: |
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This is big time! The leading christian publication is putting out the clarion call for Christians to get their heads out of their ... uh, piles of sand and support the removal of the punk.
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| Posted: 12/20/19 7:17 pm ::: |
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I was listening to Earl Blumenauer (OR, I think) on CNN.
He made an interesting comment. He said that the articles of impeachment are good forever. basically. He said that they would be good in a week, a month or a year, they don't go away.
So, here's where my mind went...
Is there ANY way possible the dems could win majority in the senate?????
Could Nancy hold on to them until after the 2020 election and let's say the Dems ARE in control of the senate and McConnell is out on his ass, submit them on Jan. 1?
Or even wait until after the 2020 election and submit them regardless of who is in control of the senate? Maybe McConnell won't be there for some reason and the process would be maybe something that resembles fair??
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pilight
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| Posted: 12/20/19 7:22 pm ::: |
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| Is there ANY way possible the dems could win majority in the senate????? |
It takes 2/3 to remove the president. They're not getting that.
It's unlikely they take the senate if Trump wins, and the impeachment won't matter if he loses.
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| Posted: 12/20/19 9:10 pm ::: |
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It takes 2/3 to remove the president. They're not getting that.
It's unlikely they take the senate if Trump wins, and the impeachment won't matter if he loses. |
Especially since the Democrats would need to win one additional Senate seat if Pence is still the VP.
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| Posted: 12/20/19 11:28 pm ::: |
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I was listening to Earl Blumenauer (OR, I think) on CNN.
He made an interesting comment. He said that the articles of impeachment are good forever. basically. He said that they would be good in a week, a month or a year, they don't go away.
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This is constitutional unknown territory, since it's never happened.
Two constitutional pundits I've read today say that the articles would die when the current two-year session of Congress ends in 13 months. The analogy is to bills and legislation. All bills die at the end of a Congressional session if they haven't been signed into law by the president. This includes bills that have not yet been enacted by either branch of Congress, bills that have been enacted by only one branch, the House or Senate, as well as bills that have been enacted by both branches but not yet signed by the president. The rationale is that a brand new group of Congresspeople shouldn't be bound or beholden to their predecessors for things that have not been fully enacted into law.
To me, this is the better view for a unicameral vote such as the articles of impeachment. But if a carryover actually happened, its life or death would probably depend on a law suit that would have to be decided by the Supreme Court. |
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