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PostPosted: 11/05/19 8:59 pm    ::: AP Top 25 Reply Reply with quote

Minn at 23 loses. Bye Bye top 25

N Dame wins against Massey No 100 Fordham 60-55. Are they a top 4 seed? Not right now.


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PostPosted: 11/05/19 9:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ouch only a 5 pt win for ND? Baylor looks good. Grad transfer Erin Degrate scored 18 off the bench along with Egbos 14 off the bench. Another deep team for the bears. Maybe even better than last year.



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PostPosted: 11/09/19 11:10 pm    ::: Re: AP Top 25 Reply Reply with quote

linkster wrote:
Minn at 23 loses. Bye Bye top 25

N Dame wins against Massey No 100 Fordham 60-55. Are they a top 4 seed? Not right now.


Outside of one overly optimistic poster here, were many people expecting them to look like a top 4 seed, especially at the beginning of the season?

All new starters. The only seniors are grad transfers and a former walk-on coming off an injury. Only 1 junior. Only 9 scholarship players (one a former walk-on), now down to 7 for at least 6 weeks. Only 24% of the minutes played from last year returning (now down to 4%).

There are generally 3 things that make up the truly great seasons: experience, talent, and depth. You can have a very good or even great season without one of the 3 (usually the depth), but being down 2 (as ND is this year) is not really a recipe for success. They've got a lot of talent. It's just very young (or new to the system).

By the end of the season, with some playing time under their belts, they could become a top 4 seed (I'm assuming you mean a regional #1-#4 seed and not one of the 4 #1 seeds). However, they're going to have a rough road early on. Most people knew that. As I've said before, this is going to be an "interesting" year for ND Women's Basketball, in the Chinese curse sort of way.

BTW, you are judging a team that lost 5 starters (plus a junior to be bench player to transfer) in their first game (without an exhibition game first) that they start on the road? Talk about a tough grader... Wink


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PostPosted: 11/10/19 12:46 pm    ::: Re: AP Top 25 Reply Reply with quote

CBiebel wrote:
linkster wrote:
Minn at 23 loses. Bye Bye top 25

N Dame wins against Massey No 100 Fordham 60-55. Are they a top 4 seed? Not right now.


Outside of one overly optimistic poster here, were many people expecting them to look like a top 4 seed, especially at the beginning of the season?



Who expected them to be a top 4 seed right now? Try Charlie Creme and the shills over at ESPN.


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PostPosted: 11/10/19 3:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Will South Florida take Texas' spot after beating them at home?


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PostPosted: 11/11/19 11:15 am    ::: Re: AP Top 25 Reply Reply with quote

linkster wrote:
CBiebel wrote:
linkster wrote:
Minn at 23 loses. Bye Bye top 25

N Dame wins against Massey No 100 Fordham 60-55. Are they a top 4 seed? Not right now.


Outside of one overly optimistic poster here, were many people expecting them to look like a top 4 seed, especially at the beginning of the season?



Who expected them to be a top 4 seed right now? Try Charlie Creme and the shills over at ESPN.


Creme's predictions only start to look good after the NCAA Committee spots him the top 16 teams.

Also, as I pointed out, you said this after one game, that was on the road as an opener, without a previous exhibition game?

BTW, I have to say that I find it funny that a UConn fan, of all people, would refer to ESPN as "shills." They've never been that towards your team, right? Wink


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PostPosted: 11/11/19 1:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

LOL Not UConn.

ESPN panders to the teams that they hope will draw ratings. That's why Notre Dame was ranked in the top 16, why Minn (Whalen) got ranked. They like to diminish UConn whenever they can not because they dislike them but to give the rest of the country something to hope for.


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PostPosted: 11/11/19 2:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/rankings

Week 2 rankings out. Maryland drops. UConn, off their scintillating win over Cal moves up to 4. Notre Dame stays about the same. Shows that either the voters didn't watch the games or there wasn't anyone good enough to replace them. The biggest up move was S Fla., moving up 10 slots from 35th.


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PostPosted: 11/11/19 3:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Laughing Are there really no other teams out there that are better? Maybe it really is a totally 'down' year.



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PostPosted: 11/11/19 7:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

linkster wrote:
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/rankings

Week 2 rankings out. Maryland drops. UConn, off their scintillating win over Cal moves up to 4. Notre Dame stays about the same. Shows that either the voters didn't watch the games or there wasn't anyone good enough to replace them. The biggest up move was S Fla., moving up 10 slots from 35th.


How in the world could anyone rank Texas over USF this week???


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PostPosted: 11/11/19 7:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PUmatty wrote:
linkster wrote:
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/rankings

Week 2 rankings out. Maryland drops. UConn, off their scintillating win over Cal moves up to 4. Notre Dame stays about the same. Shows that either the voters didn't watch the games or there wasn't anyone good enough to replace them. The biggest up move was S Fla., moving up 10 slots from 35th.


How in the world could anyone rank Texas over USF this week???


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PostPosted: 11/11/19 7:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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How in the world could anyone rank Texas over USF this week???


It's kind of interesting if you look at the ballots - actually no one did...all 10 ballots with both teams on them ranked USF higher.

But there were a lot of pollsters who only ranked Texas...

https://apnews.com/2d11a29690d346d79c29bffea3fd9baf


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PostPosted: 11/11/19 8:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Matt5762 wrote:
PUmatty wrote:

How in the world could anyone rank Texas over USF this week???


It's kind of interesting if you look at the ballots - actually no one did...all 10 ballots with both teams on them ranked USF higher.

But there were a lot of pollsters who only ranked Texas...

https://apnews.com/2d11a29690d346d79c29bffea3fd9baf


But that's the same thing ...

Actually, it's even worse.


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PostPosted: 11/12/19 2:11 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Sadly, a lot of the media who get an AP vote do not take their position very seriously and do very little research and leg work to arrive at their votes.

Just calling out one in particular. Pat Babcock was one that really stuck out - she clearly does not do a thorough job on her voting. She is billed as a Chicago Sky analyst and the women's basketball reporter for the Daily Herald in Chicago and I found her picks sorely lacking in any real insight. She's not the only one, but I found it glaring since she promotes herself as such an active media member and women's basketball advocate.

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