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Howee
Joined: 27 Nov 2009 Posts: 15753 Location: OREGON (in my heart)
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Posted: 11/02/19 6:08 pm ::: |
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Iluvacc wrote: |
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GUESS YOU HAVE TO BE A RICH WHITE GIRL AND GO PLAY FOR MUFFIE TO GET A GOSH DAMN WAIVER.SMH!!!! |
I sort of doubt that Jessica Shepard is rich...
However, I thought the coaching change was typically grounds for granting waiver. Or is THAT as arbitrary as the NCAA chooses? |
Elizabeth Balogun and Elizabeth Dixon received waivers to play immediately for Louisville this year |
....and Destiny Littleton did NOT get one for SC. Life will go on, disappointments 'n all.
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Speebs56
Joined: 19 Aug 2015 Posts: 228 Location: Orange county, CA
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Posted: 11/02/19 6:16 pm ::: |
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I just wish there was some consistency in NCAA policy - but since there isn't, it leaves us to speculate on whys. Or why nots.
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Ex-Ref
Joined: 04 Oct 2009 Posts: 8960
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Posted: 11/02/19 6:41 pm ::: |
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Speebs56 wrote: |
I just wish there was some consistency in NCAA policy - but since there isn't, it leaves us to speculate on whys. Or why nots. |
IDK, it looks like if you declare your intent to transfer after the coach you committed to is no longer at the school, you have a better chance to play right away (Romero, Shepard, Dixon, Balogun, etc).
If you shit on the coach you committed to, not so much (Westbrook).
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“Thank you for showing the fellas that you've got more balls than them,” Haley said, to cheers from the crowd.
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ClayK
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Posted: 11/03/19 10:52 am ::: |
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And remind me again why any athlete has to sit out when coaches and administrators don't? (And why drama students and musicians can participate in revenue-generating activities and competitions without any outside approval?)
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summertime blues
Joined: 16 Apr 2013 Posts: 7860 Location: Shenandoah Valley
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Posted: 11/03/19 2:19 pm ::: |
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Oh, FFS Clay, get over it.
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SDHoops
Joined: 09 Nov 2007 Posts: 1183
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Posted: 11/03/19 2:44 pm ::: |
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summertime blues wrote: |
Oh, FFS Clay, get over it. |
Reverse the role and the Lady Vols would be sh***ing bricks.
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linkster
Joined: 27 Jul 2012 Posts: 5424
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Posted: 11/03/19 4:08 pm ::: |
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I guess UConn is still doing OK since they still get the same Sarcastic Trash-talking Bullcrap from the same poster.
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ucbart
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 2819 Location: New York
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Posted: 11/03/19 4:50 pm ::: |
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I guess UConn is still doing OK since they still get the same Sarcastic Trash-talking Bullcrap from the same poster. |
After today's exhibition game, it is clear to me that if Evina does in fact have to sit out and this appeal doesn't work, we have exactly 6 players who will see court time this year.......AGAIN!
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SDHoops
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Ex-Ref
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Posted: 11/03/19 6:59 pm ::: |
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summertime blues wrote: |
Oh, FFS Clay, get over it. |
+1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000....
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“Thank you for showing the fellas that you've got more balls than them,” Haley said, to cheers from the crowd.
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GlennMacGrady
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Posted: 11/03/19 8:48 pm ::: |
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ucbart wrote: |
After today's exhibition game, it is clear to me that if Evina does in fact have to sit out and this appeal doesn't work, we have exactly 6 players who will see court time this year.......AGAIN! |
And the further news is that two three-time All-American players will be replaced in the top six by two freshman not in the ESPNW top 20.
HERE is the UConn vs. Jefferson box score and here is the full game video:
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The game was too one-sided for me to draw any firm analytical conclusions. UConn got 43 of its points off turnovers and 38 off fast breaks, so the UConn half court offense, which is what it must have to beat E8 teams, was not tested at all in this game.
Very preliminarily, Walker looked a bit sleeker and better, ONO looked a bit bulkier and better, and Williams and Dangerfield looked about the same. Makurat is bigger than I expected, seemed to have a good handle and drive, but bricked every one of her three-point shots, which she was not shy to heave up. Griffin seems to have a nose for the ball, was quick and was an effective rebounder, but had no opportunity to show an outside shot. Adebayo had trouble hitting shots from all distances but got some rebounds. Irwin was very hot from the arc, and Bent was Bent.
UConn should be good enough to make the S16 and probably the E8 if everyone stays healthy and out of foul trouble, but I can't predict beyond that. The still-developing ONO might be the key player on the team, as she's the only height and has no real backup on the bench. |
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PRballer
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Posted: 11/04/19 12:17 pm ::: |
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Seems as though Geno and the UConn machine is fighting this appeal via their press corps, which can either be a nice way to pressure the NCAA...or turn them off even more.
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GlennMacGrady
Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 8234 Location: Heisenberg
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Posted: 11/04/19 1:37 pm ::: |
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2021's 6-4 Amari DeBerry at UConn this past weekend with some visiting alums.
Also on an unofficial visit this weekend was 2022's 6-3 double-double machine from San Diego, Isuneh "Ice" Brady (#25). |
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linkster
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Posted: 11/04/19 1:39 pm ::: |
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PRballer wrote: |
Seems as though Geno and the UConn machine is fighting this appeal via their press corps, which can either be a nice way to pressure the NCAA...or turn them off even more. |
It worked for Romero. And if I remember correctly the appeal is heard by a panel of AD's, who are not employees of the NCAA.
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CamrnCrz1974
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 18371 Location: Phoenix
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Posted: 11/04/19 1:51 pm ::: |
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linkster wrote: |
PRballer wrote: |
Seems as though Geno and the UConn machine is fighting this appeal via their press corps, which can either be a nice way to pressure the NCAA...or turn them off even more. |
It worked for Romero. And if I remember correctly the appeal is heard by a panel of AD's, who are not employees of the NCAA. |
Not the same thing.
Leticia Romero sought to transfer after coach Deb Patterson was fired. Kansas State denied her request amid concerns that members of the previous staff were trying to persuade her to follow them to another school.
Eventually, Romero was allowed to transfer to any school outside the Big 12. She picked Florida State.
The balance of power was much different in the case of Romero. At the time, Kansas State's policy stated:
"...except for the most compelling of circumstances, which place an undue burden on the student athlete, it is the policy of the department of intercollegiate athletics not to grant a release for the purposes of a transfer."
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Howee
Joined: 27 Nov 2009 Posts: 15753 Location: OREGON (in my heart)
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linkster
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Posted: 11/04/19 3:07 pm ::: |
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CamrnCrz1974 wrote: |
linkster wrote: |
PRballer wrote: |
Seems as though Geno and the UConn machine is fighting this appeal via their press corps, which can either be a nice way to pressure the NCAA...or turn them off even more. |
It worked for Romero. And if I remember correctly the appeal is heard by a panel of AD's, who are not employees of the NCAA. |
Not the same thing.
Leticia Romero sought to transfer after coach Deb Patterson was fired. Kansas State denied her request amid concerns that members of the previous staff were trying to persuade her to follow them to another school.
Eventually, Romero was allowed to transfer to any school outside the Big 12. She picked Florida State.
The balance of power was much different in the case of Romero. At the time, Kansas State's policy stated:
"...except for the most compelling of circumstances, which place an undue burden on the student athlete, it is the policy of the department of intercollegiate athletics not to grant a release for the purposes of a transfer." |
Different but it was all the publicity that led to a reversal of policy.
The phrase "except for the most compelling of circumstances, which place an undue burden on the student athlete" is a typical "escape clause" which is subject to interpretation. Despite initially saying that the phrase didn't apply in her case they later reversed their opinion. Why except for the publicity?
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summertime blues
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cthskzfn
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summertime blues
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summertime blues
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Posted: 11/05/19 12:44 pm ::: |
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Relevance/irrelevance has nothing to do with anything. Some of y'all just need to get over yourselves. I still follow the Lady Vols, maybe a little more so now that Kellie's coaching. However, they're 6 hours away and not on TV so much here. I am a JMU fan because I'm here. I have season tickets and it's fun being a mid-major fan, especially when your mid-major team is pretty darn good.
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linkster
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Posted: 11/05/19 12:58 pm ::: |
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summertime blues wrote: |
Relevance/irrelevance has nothing to do with anything. Some of y'all just need to get over yourselves. I still follow the Lady Vols, maybe a little more so now that Kellie's coaching. However, they're 6 hours away and not on TV so much here. I am a JMU fan because I'm here. I have season tickets and it's fun being a mid-major fan, especially when your mid-major team is pretty darn good. |
Now I am one who says everyone should be free to post where and what they want but not you dear. On more than one occasion you have told others that unless they are a Tenn fan they had no business posting in a Tenn game thread? Shouldn't you practice what you preach?
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summertime blues
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Posted: 11/05/19 4:24 pm ::: |
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linkster wrote: |
summertime blues wrote: |
Relevance/irrelevance has nothing to do with anything. Some of y'all just need to get over yourselves. I still follow the Lady Vols, maybe a little more so now that Kellie's coaching. However, they're 6 hours away and not on TV so much here. I am a JMU fan because I'm here. I have season tickets and it's fun being a mid-major fan, especially when your mid-major team is pretty darn good. |
Now I am one who says everyone should be free to post where and what they want but not you dear. On more than one occasion you have told others that unless they are a Tenn fan they had no business posting in a Tenn game thread? Shouldn't you practice what you preach? |
Apparently I am not free to answer what SOMEONE ELSE posted on this thread? Excuse YOU?
_________________ Don't take life so serious. It ain't nohows permanent.
It takes 3 years to build a team and 7 to build a program.--Conventional Wisdom
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