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ucbart
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 2815 Location: New York
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Posted: 08/25/19 8:51 am ::: |
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I wake up every day and watch the local news and I really hope I missed this announcement, because if they didn't report it, I'll be pissed.
A 6th year senior PG in Mangakahia and a junior Emily Engstler is going to be very dangerous in 2021.
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cthskzfn
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NoDakSt
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NoDakSt
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Posted: 10/16/19 4:38 pm ::: |
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I want to see if Amanda Butler can continue her improvements at Clemson. I know some key players graduated but I believe some of her former Gator players are now eligible after transferring.
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ArtBest23
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Posted: 10/16/19 6:16 pm ::: |
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I get a chuckle that the rest of the ACC thinks this is the year to finally get a chance to knock ND down a peg or two.
We'll see. Maybe they're right.
ND is certainly lacking experience -- an unprecedented lack of experience -- but ND still has better talent and better coaching than any other team in the league. How far will that carry them? Interesting experiment.
BTW, I think they are overlooking Miami too. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see both ND and Miami in the top 3 at season end.
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SDHoops
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Posted: 10/16/19 10:44 pm ::: |
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ArtBest23 wrote: |
I get a chuckle that the rest of the ACC thinks this is the year to finally get a chance to knock ND down a peg or two.
We'll see. Maybe they're right.
ND is certainly lacking experience -- an unprecedented lack of experience -- but ND still has better talent and better coaching than any other team in the league. How far will that carry them? Interesting experiment.
BTW, I think they are overlooking Miami too. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see both ND and Miami in the top 3 at season end. |
Although I've grown to dislike Muffet, I still have a certain respect for her and the program to know never to count them out! Plus you are right, they have a very good class coming in and if they gel quickly, they could easily be a Top 25+ team. A "down" year at ND is a banner year for most programs in the country!
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ridor
Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 1055 Location: Frederick, Maryland
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Posted: 10/16/19 10:51 pm ::: |
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As much as I love Virginia Cavaliers, I still monitor the program from afar. I'm in Idaho. I guess I should start cheering for Montana or Utah. LOL. Virginia's schedule is insane. I don't know what Tina was thinking but she's good pals with Tony Bennett who did do the fantastic job for MBB, winning the national championship much to my delight. I must have faith in Tina. But that schedule is ... brutal.
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Howee
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Posted: 10/16/19 11:49 pm ::: |
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Legit complaint or not, it's a good motivator for a team. I'm looking forward to seeing them play in NY next month.
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CBiebel
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Posted: 10/18/19 3:59 pm ::: |
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ArtBest23 wrote: |
I get a chuckle that the rest of the ACC thinks this is the year to finally get a chance to knock ND down a peg or two.
We'll see. Maybe they're right.
ND is certainly lacking experience -- an unprecedented lack of experience -- but ND still has better talent and better coaching than any other team in the league. How far will that carry them? Interesting experiment.
BTW, I think they are overlooking Miami too. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see both ND and Miami in the top 3 at season end. |
I think you are seriously underestimating the lack of experience and depth (don't forget that).
ND is returning only 257 of the 3454 points they scored last year (that's 7.4%, BTW. Granted, there are two incoming senior transfers as well). There are only 9 scholarship players, and one of those is a player who was upgraded from walk-on status.
Of the 9 scholarship players on the roster, two are freshmen, one is a sophomore who played in only 7 games before injury last year, another played in only 4 games last year (at another team, and didn't play the year before due to injury), and two others missed all of last season due to injury. That's 9 before any injuries have happened.
I know people love to fixate on talent, but experience (both overall playing experience and experience playing together) matter a lot more than many people think. It's why, IMO, that you have more midmajor teams breaking through in Men's Basketball (the more talent teams often have larger turnover, while less talented teams can rely on experience to counter that. Few of the female players leave early for the WNBA).
Keep in mind that even with a team that returned almost everyone from a NC run and 5 starters who had over 1000 career points (and 3 who had over 2,000 career points. If you count Shepard's points from Nebraska, 4 of ND's starters were in the top 9 all time in ND scoring), ND still lost 2 ACC games last year.
There are too many variables to do too much in the way of predictions this year for, but the overall makeup of the team wouldn't be cause to predict the "reload instead of rebuild" type of years ND has recently had. I've been following ND for a very long time (One of the freshmen on this year's team (a walk-on) is the daughter of a player I watched back in the day. Man I feel old... ), and I don't recall anything close to this kind of rebuild. 1997-98 still had Peirck, Henderson, and Ivey coming back. 2001-02 had Haney and Ratay.
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NoDakSt
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NoDakSt
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Posted: 10/19/19 9:05 am ::: |
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Lea Odom interview Duke.
https://goduke.com/index.aspx?path=wbball
Either this girl or her coach are delusional.
Her ideal position is the three "but I never get to play there, it's always the one or the four".
She's 0-4 from 3 PT land in three years at Duke!
She thinks she'll primarily be pointguard this season, a roll she played last season when Kira Lambert and Mik Boykin were out. And that went sooo well. Last season she was 79 assists to 94 turnovers
I think Duke can make the NCAA tournament if they have Lambert back and at the point. If not, it will be more of the same.
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myrtle
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Shades
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NoDakSt
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Posted: 10/26/19 12:17 pm ::: |
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Diagnose with Marfan Syndrome. Best thoughts and prayers going to this young woman.
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PickledGinger
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Posted: 10/26/19 2:55 pm ::: |
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ucbart wrote: |
I wake up every day and watch the local news and I really hope I missed this announcement, because if they didn't report it, I'll be pissed.
A 6th year senior PG in Mangakahia and a junior Emily Engstler is going to be very dangerous in 2021. |
Maeva Djaldi-Tabdi is going to be a beast by then as well. And they only lose 1 rotation player after this season. 2021 is looking like a powerhouse.
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Howee
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Posted: 10/26/19 2:56 pm ::: |
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NoDakSt wrote: |
Diagnose with Marfan Syndrome. Best thoughts and prayers going to this young woman. |
How sad for a talented young athlete. I hope she is afforded the opportunity to complete her degree and find fulfillment in a career away from The Game.
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ridor
Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 1055 Location: Frederick, Maryland
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Posted: 10/26/19 6:34 pm ::: |
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She's going to stay at school, UVA is going to honor the promise. UVA is not like any school where others would rescind the scholarships or aid for its student-athletes.
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myrtle
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Posted: 10/26/19 8:04 pm ::: |
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ridor wrote: |
She's going to stay at school, UVA is going to honor the promise. UVA is not like any school where others would rescind the scholarships or aid for its student-athletes. |
that's great. Hope she can make the best of a bad situation.
and there are quite a few schools who would in fact continue to honor the scholarship.
_________________ For there is always light,
if only we’re brave enough to see it.
If only we’re brave enough to be it.
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Stormeo
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Posted: 10/27/19 12:26 am ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
ridor wrote: |
She's going to stay at school, UVA is going to honor the promise. UVA is not like any school where others would rescind the scholarships or aid for its student-athletes. |
that's great. Hope she can make the best of a bad situation.
and there are quite a few schools who would in fact continue to honor the scholarship. |
Not to get off topic on this thread, but the only situation I can think of that involved athletes getting their scholarships taken away was the Tricia Stafford-Odom thing at North Carolina Central University in which she purposely cleaned house players-wise once she got there. At least in that case, NCCU tried to step in for those players' sake.
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Howee
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Conway Gamecock
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Posted: 11/01/19 2:51 am ::: |
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I want to see if Amanda Butler can continue her improvements at Clemson. I know some key players graduated but I believe some of her former Gator players are now eligible after transferring. |
Saw where Clemson lost in their exhibition game to Lander 74-72. I know often exhibition games are run like official scrimmages, where the staff will try unique lineup combinations and rotations to see what works and what doesn't. Teams have lost bad in exhibitions and went on to great seasons, and won huge in them, and went on to mediocre seasons.
But I checked out the statbroadcast stats and refused to accept it. their stats aren't typically the most official stats, but they come pretty close most often. But surely there was an error. I went to Clemson's official athletic website, and nope - it was correct:
Lander won the game, but had 29 turnovers for the game. One player had 10 TOs and another had 9. But they won, and I found out how:
Clemson had forty two turnovers. 42. Wow.......they shot at a decent rate (46%), but they took around 20 fewer shot attempts than Lander did, because they just couldn't take care of the ball well enough to give themselves more shot opportunities....
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ridor
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Posted: 11/01/19 3:08 am ::: |
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If you check Lander, you would know that they're Division II school - and they finished 24-9 including the trip to Sweet Sixteen in NCAA Division II Tournament ... and Lander virtually returns 3 players who led Lander ... one of them scored 30 against Clemson.
So this team is going to be very good in Division II.
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pilight
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Posted: 11/01/19 6:59 am ::: |
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Duke's roster has a Jada, a Jayda, a Jaida, and a Jade
That's got to be confusing
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I ain't got a home
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Howee
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