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Richyyy
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Posted: 10/03/19 1:11 pm ::: |
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4. With this story, Toler may be on her way out. Players talk and it might be very tough to get anyone to sign there. |
Toler's had a rep around the league for aaaaages, and I'm not convinced that this changes much. A lot of players want to play in Los Angeles, and the limited interaction you have with a GM probably won't put many off.
A coach and/or star players that are hard to work with/for, though? Those are more likely to put people off if they've got options about where to play. |
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Posted: 10/03/19 1:13 pm ::: |
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Parker resigned an extension in 2017 til 2020 . So does she play 1 more season in a spark uniform or is it time to head home ? ATL or Chicago ? Shame on Toler as well smh i had low hopes for her and she brought them to a cellar !
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pilight
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Randy
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Posted: 10/03/19 4:05 pm ::: |
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Let's see here:
1. Candace is lazy and doesn't play hard enough a lot of the time. (I've read that many times on Rebkell)
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2. Toler curses at her players and calls them names because they don't play hard.
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3. Fisher is an Overmatched Dingis who........
= Magic formula for successful team chemistry.
BTW - I guess it never occurred to the Sparks, players, coach or GM that maybe the Sun were just better than them.....
Wonder if Chiney feels now like her work life balance was better with the Sun after all?
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zune69
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Posted: 10/03/19 4:05 pm ::: |
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This is clearly a hit piece on Fisher.
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ClayK
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Posted: 10/03/19 4:19 pm ::: |
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The Sun may have been better -- and in fact, probably were -- but the way the Sparks played game three is the issue. It's not so much that they lost, but how they lost, and what that all said about Derek Fisher, Penny Toler and the players.
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ucbart
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Posted: 10/03/19 4:52 pm ::: |
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When. Is. A. Reporter. Going. To. Have. The Guts. To. Maybe. Report. On. What. An. Entitled. Brat. Candace. Parker. Is?
When? Everyone pissed and moaned when she was left off the Olympic team but nobody said, "What did Candace do to get left off the Olympic team?" They just blamed Geno. Now, another coach basically told her to stop being an asshole and work hard......and she gets a free pass again.
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ucbart
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toad455
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Posted: 10/03/19 5:18 pm ::: |
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I'll say that it appears Toler is definitely out due to this. And I do wonder if Parker asks for a trade or retires(I hope not). The Sparks are in for a big shake up this offseason.
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lynxmania
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Posted: 10/03/19 5:20 pm ::: |
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I wonder how much ESPN/ABC will cover this during the game.
But this ain't good for the Sparks.
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pilight
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Posted: 10/03/19 5:29 pm ::: |
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"I won't go back there until the culture changes," a former player said. "It's unprofessional." |
Are we speculating on who this is? Or are we all in agreement that it's Sims?
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StevenHW
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Posted: 10/03/19 5:33 pm ::: |
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lynxmania wrote: |
I wonder how much ESPN/ABC will cover this during the game.
But this ain't good for the Sparks. |
Depends on who leaves or stays.
Since the Sparks aren't in this year's WNBA Finals, ABC/ESPN will likely not mention it all during the game. At best, maybe during the halftime report.
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Mixolydian
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Posted: 10/03/19 5:38 pm ::: |
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Fisher may be a dingus, but it was Toler who handed him the job on a silver platter (I mean, at least interview other people?!), re-signed Williams, and gave the "MFer" locker room speech. It's clear to me who should be out.
And probably Fisher too honestly.
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Richyyy
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Posted: 10/03/19 5:43 pm ::: |
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"I won't go back there until the culture changes," a former player said. "It's unprofessional." |
Are we speculating on who this is? Or are we all in agreement that it's Sims? |
I came up with a couple of other possibilities, but she was definitely top of my list. |
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Spark4Life
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Posted: 10/03/19 5:43 pm ::: |
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ucbart wrote: |
When. Is. A. Reporter. Going. To. Have. The Guts. To. Maybe. Report. On. What. An. Entitled. Brat. Candace. Parker. Is?
When? Everyone pissed and moaned when she was left off the Olympic team but nobody said, "What did Candace do to get left off the Olympic team?" They just blamed Geno. Now, another coach basically told her to stop being an asshole and work hard......and she gets a free pass again. |
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StevenHW
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Posted: 10/03/19 5:48 pm ::: |
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In most NBA and NFL teams, General Managers are given usually two head coaching changes during their tenure, or the GM themselves get fired.
How many coaching changes has there been with the Sparks during Penny Toler's tenure as GM? At some point, somebody has to say that Penny just doesn't know how to pick a coach, and she should be held accountable for so many changes.
I still believe that Penny should've been let go as the Sparks' GM several years ago, after she took over as the interim coach after firing Carol Ross.
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zune69
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Randy
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Posted: 10/03/19 5:52 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
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"I won't go back there until the culture changes," a former player said. "It's unprofessional." |
Are we speculating on who this is? Or are we all in agreement that it's Sims? |
Why not Carson or Lavender?
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Luuuc #NATC
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toad455
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justintyme
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Posted: 10/03/19 6:20 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
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"I won't go back there until the culture changes," a former player said. "It's unprofessional." |
Are we speculating on who this is? Or are we all in agreement that it's Sims? |
The verbiage of that quote makes me think it's not Sims. "Won't go back there until..." makes it seem like someone who has potential FA destinations on their mind. Sims is under contract at the moment and by all accounts is happy in Minnesota. Seems like a person who wouldn't have future destinations on their mind.
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Luuuc #NATC
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Posted: 10/03/19 6:26 pm ::: |
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Fisher is a former player
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zune69
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justintyme
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Posted: 10/03/19 6:56 pm ::: |
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Pretty sure Leslie isn't going to re-sign with the Sparks no matter what changes they make to the culture...
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