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Randy
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Posted: 09/10/19 9:33 am ::: |
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Sounding better and better.
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toad455
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 22474 Location: NJ
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Posted: 09/10/19 9:57 am ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
Randy wrote: |
I think that place could be a long term solution, though I don't think it is on MARTA (that was always an issue with the Braves back in the Turner Field days) but there should be plenty of parking. It is probably a couple of seasons away. |
It's a 15 minute walk from the Georgia State station |
So they play 2 seasons at GSU in their current arena, and then move into the new arena for 2022. I hope this is where the owners are looking at. Also, just found out that they practice at GSU. Seems all the more season to play there, too.
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Randy
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Posted: 09/10/19 10:08 am ::: |
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I went to a pre-season scrimmage against the Opals in 2014 at GSU. It seems like it was just bleachers, but they may have upgraded it since then. For Dream crowds arena size doesn't matter. Here is a screen shot of SF at the start of the 3rd quarter against the Liberty last Sunday. Announced 5000+
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lethalweapon3
Joined: 17 May 2018 Posts: 333 Location: ATL ITP, GA
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Posted: 09/10/19 4:41 pm ::: |
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FWIW, MARTA's working on a BRT line that will connect North Avenue (southside of Midtown) with the south-end BeltLine. It may not be operational until 2025, but because it's BRT instead of LRT there's local interest in fast-tracking (excuse the pun). It would go by the new GSU arena and GSU MARTA Station, and is about a block away from the old GSU arena.
https://www.itsmarta.com/uploadedfiles/MoreMARTAAtlantaMap06192019.pdf
(the GSU Stadium on the MARTA map is the football stadium, the old Turner Field)
I'd be fine holding out at the old Panthers arena (where they practice anyway) for a few seasons until the new one is ready to go. I suspect that if Hawks Inc is truly playing hardball that the Skyhawks Arena in CPK is off the table, too, but we'll see.
As for the roster, if the team is indeed still here in 2020... My Kingdom, for Shooters. Minnesotans like ice cream in the summertime, too.
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Randy
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Posted: 09/10/19 6:46 pm ::: |
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I'd be fine holding out at the old Panthers arena (where they practice anyway) for a few seasons until the new one is ready to go.I suspect that if Hawks Inc is truly playing hardball that the Skyhawks Arena in CPK is off the table, too, but we'll see.
As for the roster, if the team is indeed still here in 2020... My Kingdom, for Shooters. Minnesotans like ice cream in the summertime, too.
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Can't really see why Hawks would be hostile to the Dream. Though the Dream owners were part of one of the competing groups that bid on the Hawks when the sale took place.
GSU is sounding more realistic than it might have seemed in the past. The Liberty and Mystics have clearly changed the definition of what is an acceptable WNBA arena for better or worse.
Shooters: Great shooters from Dream history - Laurie Koehn, Catherine Kraayeveld, Shoni, Inga Orechova, Kristy Wallace.......
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toad455
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 22474 Location: NJ
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Posted: 09/10/19 7:01 pm ::: |
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Randy wrote: |
Can't really see why Hawks would be hostile to the Dream. Though the Dream owners were part of one of the competing groups that bid on the Hawks when the sale took place.
GSU is sounding more realistic than it might have seemed in the past. The Liberty and Mystics have clearly changed the definition of what is an acceptable WNBA arena for better or worse.
Shooters: Great shooters from Dream history - Laurie Koehn, Catherine Kraayeveld, Shoni, Inga Orechova, Kristy Wallace....... |
The Liberty for worse. The Mystics for better. no professional team should be subjected to playing in an arena like WCC. I just wish the Mystics arena had the ability to expand.
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Badger_Ball
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Posted: 09/11/19 8:55 pm ::: |
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Watching DeShields play to night, highlights the unfortunate reality for Dream fans that Michael Cooper truly hurt the franchise with his decisions to trade their first round pick for McGee-Stafford and Tamera Young. That’s gotta hurt.
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SpaceJunkie
Joined: 10 Sep 2012 Posts: 4241 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: 09/11/19 8:57 pm ::: |
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Watching DeShields play to night, highlights the unfortunate reality for Dream fans that Michael Cooper truly hurt the franchise with his decisions to trade their first round pick for McGee-Stafford and Tamera Young. That’s gotta hurt. |
What trade was worse: the pick that turned into Diamond DeShields for Imani McGee-Stafford & Tamera Young or Pedro Martinez for Delino DeShields?
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Randy
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Posted: 09/11/19 10:09 pm ::: |
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Badger_Ball wrote: |
Watching DeShields play to night, highlights the unfortunate reality for Dream fans that Michael Cooper truly hurt the franchise with his decisions to trade their first round pick for McGee-Stafford and Tamera Young. That’s gotta hurt. |
In hindsight though Indiana should have taken Deshields so Dream should have never had her if everybody then was as smart as we are now. The Dream could have Nurse, Vivians or K. Mitchell though, all a lot better than IMS as well as a half dozen or so others in that draft. Trading the first round draft pick has been one of the regular moves the Dream have made since long before the days of Cooper. Unfortunately, when they kept them they usually turned out to be Chanel Mokango, Sam Logic or Shoni Shimmel so I kind of get it. They usually have done better with latter picks (Holmes - 11, Hayes 14, Bentley 13 and Billings 15.) But it can come back to bite you.
BTW - we may well have another chance to get IMS if she doesn't make the cut at Dallas next year. At this point there is not much difference between Williams and IMS.
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SpaceJunkie
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ucbart
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Randy
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Posted: 09/12/19 7:00 pm ::: |
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Some interesting stats:
Hayes: 22 games up to (incl.) Aug 10, 2019 14 PPG, 3.5 FTA
7 games after Aug 10, 2019 16.9 PPG 7.3 FTA.
She should send Anigwe and Griner a thank you note for getting the refs to start calling fouls again.
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dreamfan11
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Posted: 09/18/19 6:31 am ::: |
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Good morning - with the 4th pick in the WNBA draft, the Atlanta Dream select: ______________.
Who might it be, who should it be, who should the pick be traded for?
And, as a long time reader, first time writer, I am excited about the Dream.
Bad year, yes, but statistically, EVERY team member who was on last year's team had a worse year that '18; the team missed waaaaaaaay too many open shots and layups - stuff coaches can't do.
From what I read, the Dream had the lead in the 4th quarter around 12 of the last 16 games - and only won 3.
Last year, in crazy statistics, the Dream were 18-0 taking a lead into the 4th quarter; they were 11-0 in games decided by 5 points or less.
That just doesn't happen. And I challenge you to find another team that has done that.
But keep in mind - last year, a 3/4 court shot by Hayes to win in CT; McCoughtry a circus shot to win at buzzer at home; and Whalen missed an uncontested layup that would have been a game winner...
That is three "lucky" wins right there.
This year, law of averages played out - team missed more open shots than any team in the last two seasons - plays designed or created to find the open man - and missed.
Lay-ups - DONK - missed at an amazing rate.
The coaching staff is D-LUX - you do not win COY honors and then forget how to coach. Players need to be responsible for their inability to perform on the court.
This year:
Unhealthy Angel;
Billings, Hayes, Breland and Bentley all missed at least 4 games each.
Mengran Sun backed out of training camp;
Kristy Wallace reinjured her ACL in off-season;
6 players (out of 6 possible) were cored which did not allow to add a "marquee" player unless by trade.
Therefore, in my opinion, 2020 will be a whole different ballgame.
Excited for the future!
And where the team plays - who cares! As long as they play, as long as the rep the ATL, and as long as they course-correct, more fans will come on board.
It is a business after all.
Thanks for letting me post!
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Randy
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Posted: 09/18/19 7:40 am ::: |
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Welcome aboard.
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ClayK
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Posted: 09/18/19 9:42 am ::: |
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Welcome ... and great post.
I think a lot depends on how much McCoughtry has left in the tank, and how she adjusts to not being athletically superior any more. (She's still better than most, of course ...)
The fourth pick will be a roll of the dice, in a lot of ways, unless a couple players emerge during the college season. And if either Cox or Ionescu gets hurt, then it gets even tougher ... for example, let's say Cox tears an ACL. Should Atlanta draft her even if she can't play in 2020?
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DFWub2018
Joined: 24 Aug 2018 Posts: 1047 Location: Dallas/Ft. Worth
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Posted: 09/18/19 1:14 pm ::: |
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ClayK wrote: |
Welcome ... and great post.
I think a lot depends on how much McCoughtry has left in the tank, and how she adjusts to not being athletically superior any more. (She's still better than most, of course ...)
The fourth pick will be a roll of the dice, in a lot of ways, unless a couple players emerge during the college season. And if either Cox or Ionescu gets hurt, then it gets even tougher ... for example, let's say Cox tears an ACL. Should Atlanta draft her even if she can't play in 2020? |
LMAO....The only time Cox is coming to Atlanta is when we are in town to play the Dream!!!
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myrtle
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Posted: 09/18/19 1:59 pm ::: |
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I think Mompremier is the likely candidate
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Randy
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dreamfan11
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Randy
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Posted: 09/18/19 8:54 pm ::: |
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I would like to hear the Hawks side of the story, though I have my doubts whether we ever will. Not the kind of thing that makes me want to go to Hawks games.
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toad455
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pilight
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Posted: 09/18/19 9:57 pm ::: |
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dreamfan11 wrote: |
ATL does not need Angel IMO - she is older, commands a high salary, and is high maintenance. Look at Stewie - while younger, she has a similar injury and is way ahead of Angel who is now 13+ months removed from her injury. |
Well, yeah, if we can get Stewart then we should do that.
Even similar injuries can be very different. Chiney Ogwumike had the same injury that ended Cheryl Ford's career, but she was able to come back and be effective.
If we're moving on from Angel that means it's rebuilding time. That means we dump Montgomery, Breland, Hayes, and Williams and do a youth movement.
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Randy
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Posted: 09/18/19 10:46 pm ::: |
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dreamfan11 wrote: |
ATL does not need Angel IMO - she is older, commands a high salary, and is high maintenance. Look at Stewie - while younger, she has a similar injury and is way ahead of Angel who is now 13+ months removed from her injury. |
Well, yeah, if we can get Stewart then we should do that.
Even similar injuries can be very different. Chiney Ogwumike had the same injury that ended Cheryl Ford's career, but she was able to come back and be effective.
If we're moving on from Angel that means it's rebuilding time. That means we dump Montgomery, Breland, Hayes, and Williams and do a youth movement. |
The real question is does Angel come back? She is a FA according to the owners.
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mavcarter #NATC
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Posted: 09/18/19 11:16 pm ::: |
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McCoughtry went on record and said the Dream attempted to trade her. If she’s in a Dream uniform next season I’ll be surprised._________________
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Or maybe said poster should quit being a nuisance when people don’t agree? |
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