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PostPosted: 05/16/19 10:31 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote



https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/basketball/aces-wnba/aces-trade-for-wnba-all-star-center-liz-cambage-1664675/



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PostPosted: 05/16/19 10:38 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Might need to update this series ...

https://aces.wnba.com/top-five-bill-laimbeer-trades-plenette-pierson/

https://aces.wnba.com/top-five-bill-laimbeer-trades-kedra-holland-corn/

https://aces.wnba.com/top-five-bill-laimbeer-trades-tina-charles/

https://aces.wnba.com/top-five-bill-laimbeer-trades-elaine-powell/

https://aces.wnba.com/top-five-bill-laimbeer-trades-katie-smith/


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PostPosted: 05/16/19 10:51 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Yeah, that was a major hint that Laimbeer was up to something... along with the recent Colson acquisition.



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PostPosted: 05/16/19 11:31 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

JYoung/Plum
McBride/Rodgers/Nared
TYoung/Hamby
Wilson/Bone/Park
Cambage/Swords

That’s what it’s looking like for me with current roster.
Allen on full season suspension.
If Laimbeer decides that JYoung at PG isn’t such a great idea, especially having a playoff team now, that could be tricky.

Hamby backing up TYoung could be a little iffy.
Bone, Swords, or Park for a decent guard might be helpful. Nared can play SF.



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PostPosted: 05/16/19 11:36 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

LV is a legit title contender...Liz and A'ja will be MVP candidates.




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PostPosted: 05/16/19 11:38 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Cambage will steal some of Wilson’s thunder, but it’s about the team, right?



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PostPosted: 05/16/19 11:44 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Okay, so it's finally happened and we have a heavy favorite for the title. Will be neat to see how this all plays out. I think they need another point guard and they are post heavy.

Bone or Hamby is out? They need more guards.

Also, dumb q but isn't this a rarity where the GM reports to the coach? Isn't it supposed to be the other way around?

From the Aces release:
“I’d also like to thank our general manager, Dan Padover, for all the work he put into this. This trade doesn’t happen without his patience and persistence. I told him that numerous times throughout this saga, and that’s why I hired him.

Also, is Liz going to play beyond this season? I guess the Great Experiment begins.


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PostPosted: 05/16/19 11:53 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

zune69 wrote:
LV is a legit title contender...Liz and A'ja will be MVP candidates.


Wilson’s numbers will be cut in half.


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PostPosted: 05/16/19 11:58 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

When you add the best player from a 15 win team to a 14 win team, what you get is obviously the clear title favorite.




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PostPosted: 05/16/19 12:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I wouldn't be surprised if they just cut Bone. Who knows, maybe someone would pick her up off the waiver and take her salary.



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PostPosted: 05/16/19 12:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if they just cut Bone. Who knows, maybe someone would pick her up off the waiver and take her salary.


more likely she would clear waivers, then maybe someone would offer her a vet minimum so Vegas would lose more than half the salary deficit. But it's a risk. If nobody picks her up, they are stuck with that salary.



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PostPosted: 05/16/19 12:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So Laimbeer and the Aces get Cambage, but I wonder what kind of conversation needs to take place to get Liz to come over next season during the Olympics.



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PostPosted: 05/16/19 12:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PRballer wrote:
Okay, so it's finally happened and we have a heavy favorite for the title. Will be neat to see how this all plays out. I think they need another point guard and they are post heavy.

Bone or Hamby is out? They need more guards.

Also, dumb q but isn't this a rarity where the GM reports to the coach? Isn't it supposed to be the other way around?

From the Aces release:
“I’d also like to thank our general manager, Dan Padover, for all the work he put into this. This trade doesn’t happen without his patience and persistence. I told him that numerous times throughout this saga, and that’s why I hired him.

Also, is Liz going to play beyond this season? I guess the Great Experiment begins.



"Heavy favorite"? The Aces perimeter (1-2-3) has exactly one proven quality player in the streaky McBride, plus no real point guard. The pickup of Sugar Rogers does help.




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PostPosted: 05/16/19 12:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ChasingRatDogmaSalade wrote:
Might need to update this series ...

https://aces.wnba.com/top-five-bill-laimbeer-trades-plenette-pierson/

https://aces.wnba.com/top-five-bill-laimbeer-trades-kedra-holland-corn/

https://aces.wnba.com/top-five-bill-laimbeer-trades-tina-charles/

https://aces.wnba.com/top-five-bill-laimbeer-trades-elaine-powell/

https://aces.wnba.com/top-five-bill-laimbeer-trades-katie-smith/


If Cambage shows up for three of the next four years, Vegas could easily win the WNBA title...and could certainly contend for multiple titles.

If that happens, this deal may surpass the Katie Smith trade.


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PostPosted: 05/16/19 12:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
Cambage will steal some of Wilson’s thunder, but it’s about the team, right?


There are times when that works (Ogwumike and Parker for the Sparks in 2016; Taurasi and Pondexter in 2007 and 2009). And there are times when it does not (Taurasi and Pondexter, after the 2009 season had ended).


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PostPosted: 05/16/19 1:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I would wager experience prevails, and Plum is ahead of Young.



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PostPosted: 05/16/19 2:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
I would wager experience prevails, and Plum is ahead of Young.

Having a rookie run the point is a recipe for disaster.


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PostPosted: 05/16/19 2:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Fully expecting both Plum and Young to start. Who the point guard is will probably be open to interpretation. Again, we've seen Laimbeer do this before - Alexis Hornbuckle initiated plenty of offense for a year or two in Detroit with Katie Smith and Deanna Nolan next to her. No one really felt the need to call her a point guard.



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PostPosted: 05/16/19 2:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Aladyyn wrote:
ClayK wrote:
I would wager experience prevails, and Plum is ahead of Young.

Having a rookie run the point is a recipe for disaster.


I don’t think he’d consider it unless he’s really liked what he’s seen in camp.



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PostPosted: 05/16/19 2:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Richyyy wrote:
Fully expecting both Plum and Young to start. Who the point guard is will probably be open to interpretation. Again, we've seen Laimbeer do this before - Alexis Hornbuckle initiated plenty of offense for a year or two in Detroit with Katie Smith and Deanna Nolan next to her. No one really felt the need to call her a point guard.


This is what I am thinking as well Plum/McBride/Young at the 1 the 2 and the 3 with Young bringing the ball up and Plum setting up on the perimeter and all three initiating offense on drives, cuts, pick and rolls and passes in the half-court with Plum guarding the 1, McBride the 2 and Young the 3 on defense.


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PostPosted: 05/16/19 2:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
I would wager experience prevails, and Plum is ahead of Young.


Plum had a great year overseas. They've likely been playing Young some at lead guard because Plum isn't back yet. But when she arrives, she's almost certain to be the starting PG. They may start Plum, McBride and J.Young together with T. Young soon off the bench. I could see them using J. Young to drive and dish out to McBride or Plum but Plum or a true ball handler will need to be on the floor or they will struggle even getting it across mid court.



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PostPosted: 05/16/19 3:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Richyyy wrote:
Fully expecting both Plum and Young to start. Who the point guard is will probably be open to interpretation. Again, we've seen Laimbeer do this before - Alexis Hornbuckle initiated plenty of offense for a year or two in Detroit with Katie Smith and Deanna Nolan next to her. No one really felt the need to call her a point guard.


True, but one can survive Hornbuckle when she plays with 2 other great guards. I am not ready to declare Ace guards like McBride, Plum, Young, and Sugar close in ability (offense, defense, experience et al) to Katie Smith and Nolan.


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PostPosted: 05/16/19 3:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The winner of this trade will be determined on whether Cambage shows up after this season.



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PostPosted: 05/16/19 3:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
The winner of this trade will be determined on whether Cambage shows up after this season.


Unless the Aces win it all this year



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Aladyyn wrote:
When you add the best player from a 15 win team to a 14 win team, what you get is obviously the clear title favorite.


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