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| I wonder if the players can individually opt out? #45 has never invited any WNBA champs.
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Figures that a Baptist school from a red state would say yes ...
Does Baylor still officially ban lesbians and gays? I think they got past the no-dancing stance.
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| Posted: 04/24/19 3:13 pm ::: |
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| Figures that a Baptist school from a red state would say yes |
They were the first ones asked
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| Posted: 04/24/19 3:56 pm ::: |
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| There has never been a shortage of asshole presidents. The honor is in being invited to the white house. Good for Baylor. As simple a thing as a photo with you and the president sitting on your desk or on the wall at work can make your career.
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| Posted: 04/24/19 5:35 pm ::: |
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| No surprised there. Many people over at Baylor worships Trump.
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| Posted: 04/24/19 6:38 pm ::: |
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("The more I see of the moneyed classes, the more I understand the guillotine." -- George Bernard Shaw---GREAT quote, Steve!  )
I'd be a bit surprised if Kim HADN'T voted for Trump....don't like her any less for it, but ya....hopefully, she's gotten input from the players themselves, and they're doing what they want.
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| Does Baylor still officially ban lesbians and gays? |
Maybe, in some *philosophy* or student behavior guidelines?? But then....don't Notre Dame/Incarnate Word/Brigham Young/Mt. St. Mary's/Liberty/Loyola/etc., etc., all do the same? Moot point, no?
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| Posted: 04/24/19 8:06 pm ::: |
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| There has never been a shortage of asshole presidents. The honor is in being invited to the white house. Good for Baylor. As simple a thing as a photo with you and the president sitting on your desk or on the wall at work can make your career. |
Or break it.
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("The more I see of the moneyed classes, the more I understand the guillotine." -- George Bernard Shaw---GREAT quote, Steve! )
I'd be a bit surprised if Kim HADN'T voted for Trump....don't like her any less for it, but ya....hopefully, she's gotten input from the players themselves, and they're doing what they want.
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| Does Baylor still officially ban lesbians and gays? |
Maybe, in some *philosophy* or student behavior guidelines?? But then....don't Notre Dame/Incarnate Word/Brigham Young/Mt. St. Mary's/Liberty/Loyola/etc., etc., all do the same? Moot point, no? |
I don't think that ND is as conservative as people think. I know that Muffet isn't. She's endorsing a man that is married to another man for president!
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| Posted: 04/24/19 8:30 pm ::: |
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("The more I see of the moneyed classes, the more I understand the guillotine." -- George Bernard Shaw---GREAT quote, Steve! )
I'd be a bit surprised if Kim HADN'T voted for Trump....don't like her any less for it, but ya....hopefully, she's gotten input from the players themselves, and they're doing what they want.
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| Does Baylor still officially ban lesbians and gays? |
Maybe, in some *philosophy* or student behavior guidelines?? But then....don't Notre Dame/Incarnate Word/Brigham Young/Mt. St. Mary's/Liberty/Loyola/etc., etc., all do the same? Moot point, no? |
I don't think that ND is as conservative as people think. I know that Muffet isn't. She's endorsing a man that is married to another man for president! |
She may well have that perspective, but....she still is employed by/represents an institution within the RCC, which openly disavows gay sex. Which is the point Clay was making about Baylor.
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| Posted: 04/24/19 8:32 pm ::: |
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| No surprised there. Many people over at Baylor worships Trump. |
You can't know anything at all about Baylor and say that. You'd be hard pressed to find a Republican on faculty outside the business school, and I doubt there's a business school prof anywhere who'd vote for Trump.
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| Posted: 04/24/19 8:37 pm ::: |
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| Figures that a Baptist school from a red state would say yes |
They were the first ones asked |
Baylor breaks through the glass ceiling of the White House. How about that?
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| Posted: 04/24/19 9:11 pm ::: |
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| No surprised there. Many people over at Baylor worships Trump. |
You can't know anything at all about Baylor and say that. You'd be hard pressed to find a Republican on faculty outside the business school, and I doubt there's a business school prof anywhere who'd vote for Trump. |
I guess the bridge in Brooklyn can still be sold.
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("The more I see of the moneyed classes, the more I understand the guillotine." -- George Bernard Shaw---GREAT quote, Steve! )
I'd be a bit surprised if Kim HADN'T voted for Trump....don't like her any less for it, but ya....hopefully, she's gotten input from the players themselves, and they're doing what they want.
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| Does Baylor still officially ban lesbians and gays? |
Maybe, in some *philosophy* or student behavior guidelines?? But then....don't Notre Dame/Incarnate Word/Brigham Young/Mt. St. Mary's/Liberty/Loyola/etc., etc., all do the same? Moot point, no? |
I don't think that ND is as conservative as people think. I know that Muffet isn't. She's endorsing a man that is married to another man for president! |
She may well have that perspective, but....she still is employed by/represents an institution within the RCC, which openly disavows gay sex. Which is the point Clay was making about Baylor. |
I still say that ND isn't as conservative as some here think.
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("The more I see of the moneyed classes, the more I understand the guillotine." -- George Bernard Shaw---GREAT quote, Steve! )
I'd be a bit surprised if Kim HADN'T voted for Trump....don't like her any less for it, but ya....hopefully, she's gotten input from the players themselves, and they're doing what they want.
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| Does Baylor still officially ban lesbians and gays? |
Maybe, in some *philosophy* or student behavior guidelines?? But then....don't Notre Dame/Incarnate Word/Brigham Young/Mt. St. Mary's/Liberty/Loyola/etc., etc., all do the same? Moot point, no? |
I don't think that ND is as conservative as people think. I know that Muffet isn't. She's endorsing a man that is married to another man for president! |
She may well have that perspective, but....she still is employed by/represents an institution within the RCC, which openly disavows gay sex. Which is the point Clay was making about Baylor. |
I still say that ND isn't as conservative as some here think. |
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| Posted: 04/24/19 11:14 pm ::: |
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("The more I see of the moneyed classes, the more I understand the guillotine." -- George Bernard Shaw---GREAT quote, Steve! )
I'd be a bit surprised if Kim HADN'T voted for Trump....don't like her any less for it, but ya....hopefully, she's gotten input from the players themselves, and they're doing what they want.
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| Does Baylor still officially ban lesbians and gays? |
Maybe, in some *philosophy* or student behavior guidelines?? But then....don't Notre Dame/Incarnate Word/Brigham Young/Mt. St. Mary's/Liberty/Loyola/etc., etc., all do the same? Moot point, no? |
I don't think that ND is as conservative as people think. I know that Muffet isn't. She's endorsing a man that is married to another man for president! |
She may well have that perspective, but....she still is employed by/represents an institution within the RCC, which openly disavows gay sex. Which is the point Clay was making about Baylor. |
I still say that ND isn't as conservative as some here think. |
So, are you saying that ND is NOT in accordance with RCC theology and moral standards? Cuz that's perfectly possible, and even practically reasonable. But then, so too--perhaps Baylor's theology and moral standards are not as conservative as some here might think. Not easy to know.
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| Posted: 04/24/19 11:31 pm ::: |
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("The more I see of the moneyed classes, the more I understand the guillotine." -- George Bernard Shaw---GREAT quote, Steve! )
I'd be a bit surprised if Kim HADN'T voted for Trump....don't like her any less for it, but ya....hopefully, she's gotten input from the players themselves, and they're doing what they want.
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| Does Baylor still officially ban lesbians and gays? |
Maybe, in some *philosophy* or student behavior guidelines?? But then....don't Notre Dame/Incarnate Word/Brigham Young/Mt. St. Mary's/Liberty/Loyola/etc., etc., all do the same? Moot point, no? |
I don't think that ND is as conservative as people think. I know that Muffet isn't. She's endorsing a man that is married to another man for president! |
She may well have that perspective, but....she still is employed by/represents an institution within the RCC, which openly disavows gay sex. Which is the point Clay was making about Baylor. |
I still say that ND isn't as conservative as some here think. |
So, are you saying that ND is NOT in accordance with RCC theology and moral standards? Cuz that's perfectly possible, and even practically reasonable. But then, so too--perhaps Baylor's theology and moral standards are not as conservative as some here might think. Not easy to know. |
Notre Dame is not anti-gay. Gay and lesbian student groups have been recognized as student clubs for years now. Wasn't the case when I attended in the 80's (they weren't formerly acknowledged as clubs then, but that changed many years ago). Notre Dame is very socially conscious. The Roman Catholic church has very little influence in Notre Dame politics.
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| The politics of schools is an interesting issue. Of the schools listed I would say that BYU and Liberty are the schools that most impose their theology on their students. From what I understand Baylor is also fairly strict in that regard, as evidenced by Britney Griner not being allowed to come out while she was there. Baylor is also the school that hired Kenneth Starr as its president. Notre Dame appears to be far different, maintaining a strict Catholic position at the administrative level but being much more accommodating in terms of its students and faculty. If I remember correctly ND had covered contraception for its employees under its health plan prior to Obamacare.
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| Posted: 04/25/19 1:36 am ::: |
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| It's so encouraging to see such tolerance being displayed on this thread. I am sure everyone posting here believes in tolerance without a doubt.
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| Posted: 04/25/19 4:31 am ::: |
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("The more I see of the moneyed classes, the more I understand the guillotine." -- George Bernard Shaw---GREAT quote, Steve! )
I'd be a bit surprised if Kim HADN'T voted for Trump....don't like her any less for it, but ya....hopefully, she's gotten input from the players themselves, and they're doing what they want.
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| Does Baylor still officially ban lesbians and gays? |
Maybe, in some *philosophy* or student behavior guidelines?? But then....don't Notre Dame/Incarnate Word/Brigham Young/Mt. St. Mary's/Liberty/Loyola/etc., etc., all do the same? Moot point, no? |
I don't think that ND is as conservative as people think. I know that Muffet isn't. She's endorsing a man that is married to another man for president! |
She may well have that perspective, but....she still is employed by/represents an institution within the RCC, which openly disavows gay sex. Which is the point Clay was making about Baylor. |
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| Posted: 04/25/19 8:17 am ::: |
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("The more I see of the moneyed classes, the more I understand the guillotine." -- George Bernard Shaw---GREAT quote, Steve! )
I'd be a bit surprised if Kim HADN'T voted for Trump....don't like her any less for it, but ya....hopefully, she's gotten input from the players themselves, and they're doing what they want.
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| Does Baylor still officially ban lesbians and gays? |
Maybe, in some *philosophy* or student behavior guidelines?? But then....don't Notre Dame/Incarnate Word/Brigham Young/Mt. St. Mary's/Liberty/Loyola/etc., etc., all do the same? Moot point, no? |
I don't think that ND is as conservative as people think. I know that Muffet isn't. She's endorsing a man that is married to another man for president! |
She may well have that perspective, but....she still is employed by/represents an institution within the RCC, which openly disavows gay sex. Which is the point Clay was making about Baylor. |
I still say that ND isn't as conservative as some here think. |
So, are you saying that ND is NOT in accordance with RCC theology and moral standards? Cuz that's perfectly possible, and even practically reasonable. But then, so too--perhaps Baylor's theology and moral standards are not as conservative as some here might think. Not easy to know. |
I don't know what ND's 'official' positions on those topics are. I'll go with FA's take for that.
I've lived in the area for ~35 years. For 32 of those years I've made 20+ visits to campus a year. Some years 30+ visits. My local tv comes from SB. I see ND covered on the news. I see ads for events on campus. Honestly, if I didn't know better, I wouldn't know that they are a catholic/religiously affiliated school. I hardly ever notice a religious component to them.
Yeah, they talked about the Basilica and Grotto on the news last night, but that was because there is upcoming construction that will cause traffic issues, I think. Every now and then I'll hear about a special mass taking place.
And if my former doctor who did her undergrad at ND (I'm guessing mid to late 70's) isn't a lesbian, I'll be shocked!!!!!
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