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Michelle89
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Posted: 03/05/19 4:28 am ::: |
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I dont think MJ is a pedophile but i do think he had MAJOR issues and that he should of never put himself into a position like that. As a grown man letting children (not your own) sleep in bed with you. That is where he crossed a line.
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Luuuc #NATC
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Posted: 03/05/19 8:16 am ::: |
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I don't know nearly enough to weigh in with an opinion one way or another about his guilt.
What I would say is that on the one hand he had more than enough money to cover up and/or buy his way out of a *lot* of trouble had he needed to, and on the other hand I'm also pretty sure there would have been some people out there who would have loved to see him get taken down had there been some evidence.
The 80s/90s were a very different time though in terms of how easy it was to take down a megastar. I mean even in 2018 it's painful as hell to take down a brazen monster like Weinstein. Subtract 20 years and add even a slight level of awareness and discretion by the perpetrator and the degree of difficulty is exponentially higher.
Pedos like Jimmy Savile (UK) and Rolf Harris (Australia/UK) only very recently got busted for what they were getting away with for years/decades in that era and earlier.
Leaving Neverland airs down here this coming Friday.
It kinda sucks that the accused is not around to defend himself, and either clear his name or do his time.
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Genero36
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Posted: 03/05/19 8:50 am ::: |
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Michelle89 wrote: |
I dont think MJ is a pedophile but i do think he had MAJOR issues and that he should of never put himself into a position like that. As a grown man letting children (not your own) sleep in bed with you. That is where he crossed a line. |
I agree with all of this. I never thought it was appropriate. It doesn't matter if he was abused. Children aren't responsible for healing his childhood pain.
However, I don't think he was a pedophile and if he was, it certainly wasn't against these two incredible accusers who can't keep a story straight to save their lives.
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Luuuc #NATC
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Posted: 03/05/19 8:54 am ::: |
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One clear downside of powerful/wealthy people becoming less untouchable, is that there's now even more incentive for con artists to try to fabricate an overnight retirement plan at their expense.
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Genero36
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Genero36
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Posted: 03/05/19 10:42 am ::: |
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Genero36
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Posted: 03/05/19 2:27 pm ::: |
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My cousin told me that in her experience in the legal field, you learn that predators are creatures of habit. They might change things here or there, but the overall method is the same.
Michael invited children in his presence. That is a consistency. But beyond that, every accuser's story has been all over the place.
That's why the people pushing this documentary wanted two accusers so that they could correlate a story. Before the documentary, MJ detractors were not successful with that.
Even with the documentary, the other children (now men) who they insulate were molested by Michael are adamant that they were not and that their accounts were not consistent with what being with Michael was like.
Molestation is a very tricky accusation to approve, I agree. But most confirmed pedophiles have a very consistent pattern. That does not exist with MJ accusers.
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Genero36
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Posted: 03/05/19 2:41 pm ::: |
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Genero36
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Posted: 03/05/19 3:26 pm ::: |
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Genero36
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Posted: 03/06/19 9:16 pm ::: |
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Posted: 03/06/19 9:29 pm ::: |
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Smoovie
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Posted: 03/08/19 6:19 am ::: |
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jammerbirdi wrote: |
Genero36 wrote: |
Oprah is friends with Weinstein, Geffen and she had R. Kelly on her show back in 2007. Let's not forget about that incident with her school in South Africa where little girls were being sexually abused and one of them ended up getting pregnant. She is doing nothing more than tap dancing for the real pedos in the industry and giving these two bums Wade Robson and James Safechuck a platform to spread their lies despite the fact that they have been caught lying time and time again and have changed their stories how many times now? Mo’Nique was right when she called her out on having her (Mo'Nique's) pedo brother on her show. |
This is a sad sick world when you can impune the good name of someone like Oprah Winfrey and accuse her of 'tap dancing for the real pedos in the industry.'
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Genero36
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Posted: 03/11/19 1:15 pm ::: |
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Drake Appears to Drop Michael Jackson Song From U.K. Concert Set List
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Drake appears to have dropped a song featuring Michael Jackson from the set list of his U.K. concert tour, which kicked off in northern England on Sunday.
According to website setlist.fm, the rapper’s performance at the Manchester Arena did not include “Don’t Matter to Me,” a track from his “Scorpion” album that has him singing alongside vocals recorded by Jackson in 1983 in a session with Paul Anka.
Drake had previously performed the song in concert in the U.S. – for example, in Atlanta last November. The U.K. and U.S. shows had the same opening and closing numbers but omitted the Jackson-sampling song. |
https://variety.com/2019/music/news/drake-drop-dont-matter-to-me-michael-jackson-uk-concert-set-list-1203159890/
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Posted: 03/12/19 11:46 am ::: |
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Posted: 03/13/19 12:52 pm ::: |
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