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calbearman76
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Posted: 01/21/19 1:16 pm ::: |
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What in the wide, wide world of sports is going on here? Utah is ranked 21 (first time since 2008) and Tennessee is out of the top 25.
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pilight
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Posted: 01/21/19 1:25 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
https://apnews.com/afs:Content:3079310130 |
Thanks for the link.
And that's right - DePaul's return to the top 25 was short lived after they lost to Seton Hall at home.
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Phil
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Posted: 01/21/19 1:37 pm ::: |
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Utah probably deserves to be higher.
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cthskzfn
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Posted: 01/21/19 1:47 pm ::: |
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Beavs lose at home, move up 1.
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ArtBest23
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fancy_daniel
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Posted: 01/21/19 4:15 pm ::: |
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Phil wrote: |
Utah probably deserves to be higher. |
Utah has played the soft part of the conference schedule (not to mention a soft non-conference). They're in for a rude awakening as soon as they face the Oregons, the Bay area schools and the LA schools.
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Phil
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Posted: 01/21/19 5:12 pm ::: |
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fancy_daniel wrote: |
Phil wrote: |
Utah probably deserves to be higher. |
Utah has played the soft part of the conference schedule (not to mention a soft non-conference). They're in for a rude awakening as soon as they face the Oregons, the Bay area schools and the LA schools. |
Massey projects them to lose 4.8 games, more than anyone else in the top 20.
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pilight
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Posted: 01/21/19 5:48 pm ::: |
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calbearman76 wrote: |
Tennessee is out of the top 25. |
Meanwhile the Tennessee men are #1. Clearly we've been sucked into the mirror universe.
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Kookiebean
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Posted: 01/21/19 11:15 pm ::: |
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Go Pac12
We will take the 21st best team in the country right now. A lot can and will change by next Monday.
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elsie
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Posted: 01/21/19 11:33 pm ::: |
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so gonzaga drops 5 spots by losing by 2 points away at byu who has an rpi of 20....gonzaga who has knocked off Rutgers and Stanford and this is the respect shown.
pitiful.....almost obscene what with the osu loss .....
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myrtle
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Posted: 01/22/19 12:26 am ::: |
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yeah, both Utah and NC State have greatly benefited from playing the weak part of their conference schedules early.
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Rock Hard
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willtalk
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elsie
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Posted: 01/22/19 12:07 pm ::: |
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there is no explanation that a losing team moves UP instead of going down or even staying the same except that these AP ratings are brought to us by people that don''t follow west coast teams at all.
.they must be voting blind.....
or perhaps now its just style points instead of actual WINS or LOSSES....
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SpaceJunkie
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Posted: 01/22/19 12:19 pm ::: |
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elsie wrote: |
there is no explanation that a losing team moves UP instead of going down or even staying the same except that these AP ratings are brought to us by people that don''t follow west coast teams at all.
.they must be voting blind.....
or perhaps now its just style points instead of actual WINS or LOSSES.... |
Losing to Michigan St (without other big wins to make up for it, because I know Oregon lost to Michigan St previously) must be considered a worse sin than barely losing to Arizona St.
Pollsters are still blind though. Ever since Big Ten play started Minnesota looks like the worst P5 team in the country, and they're still getting votes from some people. 😭
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Howee
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Posted: 01/22/19 2:44 pm ::: |
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Folks, this is HIGHLY a subjective process....no need to take it as a slight to your team. After #1-7 or so, it's a lotta conjecture. There are undoubtedly a good number of journalists who DO do their homework, but a lot are just given the task and muddle through. Pretty much the same with the coaches' poll.
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myrtle
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Posted: 01/22/19 2:55 pm ::: |
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The problem is that there are so many teams in the middle losing games they shouldn't lose, it's a bit like Charlie says - there just aren't enough good teams to replace them all.
But in general, I believe all these pollsters look at last week's poll, then make minor adjustments, so it's really unusual for a team like Rutgers to come out of 'nowhere' to get ranked.
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Kookiebean
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Posted: 01/23/19 5:29 pm ::: |
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[quote="Phil"]
fancy_daniel wrote: |
Phil wrote: |
Utah probably deserves to be higher. |
Utah has played the soft part of the conference schedule (not to mention a soft non-conference). They're in for a rude awakening as soon as they face the Oregons, the Bay area schools and the LA schools. |
Massey projects them to lose 4.8 games, more than anyone else in the top 20.[/quote
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Posted: 01/21/19 11:15 pm :::
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Utah could go 0-4 in the next 4 games vs 3 Top 20 teams and lose to a top 30 team, are they expected to win all four of those games? But today they are one of the best 21 in the country, I'll celebrate top 21 for now. Go Utes!
No other top 20 team is scheduled to lose 4.8 games? Utah is not in Top 20. How many teams have played 4 Top 30 teams in a week and won all 4.]
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Phil
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Posted: 01/23/19 6:55 pm ::: |
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Kookiebean wrote: |
Utah is not in Top 20. |
I was citing Massey stats, thought it would be obvious I was referring to the Massey rating - which is 15th.
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Kookiebean
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Posted: 01/23/19 9:40 pm ::: |
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Got you Phil
No harm, no foul. |
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fancy_daniel
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myrtle
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Posted: 01/24/19 2:21 pm ::: |
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I have P12 as part of my Dish sports package - along with a bunch of other Fox Sports channels which show other conferences.
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CBiebel
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Posted: 01/28/19 5:06 am ::: |
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Well, it will be interesting to see what happens to the top 10 this week. How far will ND fall? If the pollsters decide to weigh ND's SOS more heavily, they might only fall to 5th place. If they want to weigh the last loss, to a 9 loss UNC team, more, then they could go down as far as #8.
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