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PostPosted: 09/03/18 1:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
If you're adding West Coast teams:
1. Bay Area
2. Portland

maybe:
Sacramento
San Diego

other possible westerly locations:
Denver
Salt Lake City


San Diego is most definitely not a women’s basketball town. A franchise wouldn’t draw well at all there. SLC didn’t do all that well either.


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PostPosted: 09/03/18 3:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Based on demographics and the draw of women's college bball.

1. Bay Area
2. Nashville/Knoxville
3. Portland
4. Louisville
5. Houston
6. Denver


I would put Philadelphia in the mix.


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PostPosted: 09/03/18 10:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

willtalk wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Would a team in San Francisco and Sacramento be able to thrive? Monarchs usually drew well and the possibility of them returning and a team in the Bay Area might dwindle the fan base. Thoughts?


What if they split the difference and made if a Nor Cal team which played in both locations for a year. Then they could always locate in the area that worked out best for them.


I’ve thought about something like that as a permanent solution. You not only get a boost in people near the arena, it seems easier to sell an 8 or 9 game summer season ticket versus a 17 game one. But the blackout TV issue might mess it up.


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PostPosted: 09/04/18 1:40 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

tfan wrote:
willtalk wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Would a team in San Francisco and Sacramento be able to thrive? Monarchs usually drew well and the possibility of them returning and a team in the Bay Area might dwindle the fan base. Thoughts?


What if they split the difference and made if a Nor Cal team which played in both locations for a year. Then they could always locate in the area that worked out best for them.


I’ve thought about something like that as a permanent solution. You not only get a boost in people near the arena, it seems easier to sell an 8 or 9 game summer season ticket versus a 17 game one. But the blackout TV issue might mess it up.
If they had the Bay Area location more in the North Bay It not only would work demographic wise but also allow those in both area's to even attend both venues. It is almost faster to travel between the North Bay area and Sac than it is from from the North Bay to the South. Less traffic.


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PostPosted: 12/07/18 5:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Where every pro league should expand ... and where they will
ESPN (December 4, 2018)

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WNBA

Where will be next: Golden State/Bay Area (maybe)

Launched with eight teams in 1997, the WNBA expanded each of the next three years to reach 16 quickly -- too quickly, in retrospect. Since 2002, the league has seen six franchises fold (Portland, Miami, Cleveland, Charlotte, Houston and Sacramento), three move (Utah to San Antonio and then Las Vegas, Detroit to Tulsa and then Dallas, Orlando to Connecticut) and two cities get expansion teams (Chicago in 2006 and Atlanta in 2008).

For nine seasons now, the league has been at 12 teams. One of them, original WNBA franchise New York, is currently for sale. Is there any reason to assume there will be expansion in the near future? Possibly, yes, because of the interest NBA superpower Golden State has shown in having a WNBA team. The Bay Area is seen as having potential for a fan base, and Warriors president Rick Welts was a key NBA figure who helped start the WNBA in the 1990s.



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Where should be next: Golden State/Bay Area


Golden State seems a decent bet, once the downtown San Francisco arena opens. The popularity of Tennessee's women's basketball program has at times prompted mention of Nashville as an expansion possibility. Plus, some cities that lost WNBA teams might merit do-overs. Portland had a WNBA franchise for just three seasons, not long enough for the team to establish itself. The surge in success and popularity of the Oregon State and Oregon women's programs in recent years means Portland makes more sense now.

The same could be said for Charlotte; the Sting lasted 10 seasons before folding in 2006. But that was long before South Carolina -- 90 miles to the south of Charlotte -- became the top-drawing women's hoops program in the country under former Sting guard Dawn Staley. Maybe even four-time champ Houston -- which, like Sacramento, saw its WNBA demise directly linked to the global financial crisis of the late 2000s -- could get a second chance.


The article has experts in each professional sport to analyze which will be the next North American league to test the expansion waters and hat cities might be part of that expansion.

Mechelle Voepel was the WNBA expert for the ESPN article.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24078578/where-every-league-expand-where-will#WNBA


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PostPosted: 12/07/18 6:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'll say [again] the next four expansion teams should be:

1. San Francisco
2. Houston
3. Portland
4. Nashville

All this with New York staying in the NYC area(Brooklyn, Nassau, Newark).



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PostPosted: 12/07/18 6:42 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I’ll say again, wherever they can find a buyer is where expansion should occur. That’s why everybody says the Bay Area, because there’s been a known interested buyer for years. But who knows if they’re still interested. The league isn’t in a position to be fussy and follow anybody’s ideal game plan. Expansion shouldn’t occur before they find a buyer for the Liberty and see that the other teams are all on solid footing. I seriously doubt there’ll be expansion talk during a CBA despute.



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CamrnCrz1974 wrote:
Where every pro league should expand ... and where they will
ESPN (December 4, 2018)

Quote:
WNBA

Where will be next: Golden State/Bay Area (maybe)

Launched with eight teams in 1997, the WNBA expanded each of the next three years to reach 16 quickly -- too quickly, in retrospect. Since 2002, the league has seen six franchises fold (Portland, Miami, Cleveland, Charlotte, Houston and Sacramento), three move (Utah to San Antonio and then Las Vegas, Detroit to Tulsa and then Dallas, Orlando to Connecticut) and two cities get expansion teams (Chicago in 2006 and Atlanta in 2008).

For nine seasons now, the league has been at 12 teams. One of them, original WNBA franchise New York, is currently for sale. Is there any reason to assume there will be expansion in the near future? Possibly, yes, because of the interest NBA superpower Golden State has shown in having a WNBA team. The Bay Area is seen as having potential for a fan base, and Warriors president Rick Welts was a key NBA figure who helped start the WNBA in the 1990s.



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Where should be next: Golden State/Bay Area


Golden State seems a decent bet, once the downtown San Francisco arena opens. The popularity of Tennessee's women's basketball program has at times prompted mention of Nashville as an expansion possibility. Plus, some cities that lost WNBA teams might merit do-overs. Portland had a WNBA franchise for just three seasons, not long enough for the team to establish itself. The surge in success and popularity of the Oregon State and Oregon women's programs in recent years means Portland makes more sense now.

The same could be said for Charlotte; the Sting lasted 10 seasons before folding in 2006. But that was long before South Carolina -- 90 miles to the south of Charlotte -- became the top-drawing women's hoops program in the country under former Sting guard Dawn Staley. Maybe even four-time champ Houston -- which, like Sacramento, saw its WNBA demise directly linked to the global financial crisis of the late 2000s -- could get a second chance.


The article has experts in each professional sport to analyze which will be the next North American league to test the expansion waters and hat cities might be part of that expansion.

Mechelle Voepel was the WNBA expert for the ESPN article.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24078578/where-every-league-expand-where-will#WNBA


It's a reprint of earlier article, accounting for the recent NHL announcement

http://boards.rebkell.net/viewtopic.php?p=1534229



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