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Howee
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Youth Coach
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Posted: 09/06/18 5:57 am ::: |
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ClayK wrote: |
So here's a question: What if a player smokes marijuana in a state where it's legal and then is tested in a state where it's not? How is that different than having a beer?
OK, you can say it's in whatever form the players sign, but why is marijuana worth being kicked off a team and alcohol not? Do Colorado and California schools have marijuana testing?
Marijuana apparently can be detected up to six months after smoking, so if a player transfers from a state where marijuana is legal and is not prohibited from enjoying it to a state where it is illegal and on the athlete form, does she get a drug-testing pass for six months (or however long it takes)?
Of course, to me banning marijuana is like banning alcohol -- either you ban both or neither. |
Wouldn't it be simpler to not smoke pot in the first place, regardless of where you live or happen to attend school? |
Addiction isn't that simple |
Of course not. But if you don't do it in the first place, I'd imagine its hard to get addicted to it. |
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ClayK
Joined: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 11105
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Posted: 09/06/18 9:49 am ::: |
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Of course it would be simpler not to drink or smoke marijuana ... but almost all cultures are intertwined with intoxicants of one kind or another, and it's part of everyone's experience.
Some do not participate, but the vast majority do, and certainly the vast majority of teenagers have tasted more than a drop of alcohol. The punishment for "street drugs" do not seem to me to fit the crime, as alcohol is a much more prevalent drug, and by most accounts, much more dangerous (and addictive) than marijuana.
But regardless, if a young athlete legally eats a marijuana brownie in California, and then fails a drug test in Georgia, should she be punished?
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willtalk
Joined: 13 Apr 2012 Posts: 1088 Location: NorCal
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Posted: 09/06/18 11:25 am ::: |
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ClayK wrote: |
Of course it would be simpler not to drink or smoke marijuana ... but almost all cultures are intertwined with intoxicants of one kind or another, and it's part of everyone's experience.
Some do not participate, but the vast majority do, and certainly the vast majority of teenagers have tasted more than a drop of alcohol. The punishment for "street drugs" do not seem to me to fit the crime, as alcohol is a much more prevalent drug, and by most accounts, much more dangerous (and addictive) than marijuana.
But regardless, if a young athlete legally eats a marijuana brownie in California, and then fails a drug test in Georgia, should she be punished? |
So that would explain the price of those five dollars a piece brownies I saw you selling during the last WCJ. lol.
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ClayK
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Posted: 09/06/18 12:01 pm ::: |
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willtalk wrote: |
ClayK wrote: |
Of course it would be simpler not to drink or smoke marijuana ... but almost all cultures are intertwined with intoxicants of one kind or another, and it's part of everyone's experience.
Some do not participate, but the vast majority do, and certainly the vast majority of teenagers have tasted more than a drop of alcohol. The punishment for "street drugs" do not seem to me to fit the crime, as alcohol is a much more prevalent drug, and by most accounts, much more dangerous (and addictive) than marijuana.
But regardless, if a young athlete legally eats a marijuana brownie in California, and then fails a drug test in Georgia, should she be punished? |
So that would explain the price of those five dollars a piece brownies I saw you selling during the last WCJ. lol. |
Hey, fans who bought them were mellow throughout the game, bought a lot of food and went home smiling ...
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Ex-Ref
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Posted: 09/06/18 8:06 pm ::: |
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ClayK wrote: |
Of course it would be simpler not to drink or smoke marijuana ... but almost all cultures are intertwined with intoxicants of one kind or another, and it's part of everyone's experience.
Some do not participate, but the vast majority do, and certainly the vast majority of teenagers have tasted more than a drop of alcohol. The punishment for "street drugs" do not seem to me to fit the crime, as alcohol is a much more prevalent drug, and by most accounts, much more dangerous (and addictive) than marijuana.
But regardless, if a young athlete legally eats a marijuana brownie in California, and then fails a drug test in Georgia, should she be punished? |
Yes. The same as if I ate one in California and my employer has a policy that says that it's grounds for termination to have THC in my system.
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awhom111
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Posted: 09/06/18 8:38 pm ::: |
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To be clear, it's still against the rules in nearly all sports, even in countries where it's legal or decriminalized. This could change in the future, especially with more rsearch, but we're not there yet. If you go play overseas professionally and test positive, you will likely get a suspension for a few months. |
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Youth Coach
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Posted: 09/06/18 9:12 pm ::: |
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ClayK wrote: |
Of course it would be simpler not to drink or smoke marijuana ... but almost all cultures are intertwined with intoxicants of one kind or another, and it's part of everyone's experience.
Some do not participate, but the vast majority do, and certainly the vast majority of teenagers have tasted more than a drop of alcohol. The punishment for "street drugs" do not seem to me to fit the crime, as alcohol is a much more prevalent drug, and by most accounts, much more dangerous (and addictive) than marijuana.
But regardless, if a young athlete legally eats a marijuana brownie in California, and then fails a drug test in Georgia, should she be punished? |
Yes. The person damn well knows that they aren't supposed to be using drugs because of the drug testing going on. |
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GlennMacGrady
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Posted: 09/06/18 11:18 pm ::: |
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So, all of a sudden, based on absolutely no evidence other than maybe a deleted tweet, Hayes is being discussed as a drug user, a repeat drug user, and maybe an addict.
Shameful speculation. |
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purduefanatic
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Posted: 09/07/18 9:44 am ::: |
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GlennMacGrady wrote: |
So, all of a sudden, based on absolutely no evidence other than maybe a deleted tweet, Hayes is being discussed as a drug user, a repeat drug user, and maybe an addict.
Shameful speculation. |
I didn't see any of that with the exception of her possibly being a user. A larger conversation developed regarding drug/pot use, especially as it pertains to players in states where it is legal. Taking all those larger scale comments and attaching them to Hayes is something I have only seen in your post. I couldn't seem to locate a post that mentions her as an addict.
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WNBA 09
Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 12493 Location: Dallas , Texas
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Posted: 09/07/18 11:32 am ::: |
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GlennMacGrady wrote: |
So, all of a sudden, based on absolutely no evidence other than maybe a deleted tweet, Hayes is being discussed as a drug user, a repeat drug user, and maybe an addict.
Shameful speculation. |
+1
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elsie
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Posted: 10/11/18 4:56 am ::: |
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I know of no state that allows teenagers to smoke/use weed.....it can be legal for adults...
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ArtBest23
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Posted: 10/11/18 12:12 pm ::: |
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ClayK wrote: |
So here's a question: What if a player smokes marijuana in a state where it's legal and then is tested in a state where it's not? How is that different than having a beer?
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I'm certainly not defending the current state of affairs, but the legal reality is that it's not "legal" anywhere in the United States. It's illegal under Federal law regardless of what states might be doing on their own.
Yes, it's silly, but that is the law, and that renders it completely different from alcohol.
I also thought pot was still a "banned substance" under most athletic federation rules regardless of its legality or illegality. There are plenty of things that are legal but banned. I think marijuana is on the NCAA's banned list regardless of location.
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FrozenLVFan
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Posted: 10/11/18 6:24 pm ::: |
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AFAIK or can google, she hasn't committed or enrolled at another school, although her younger sister Aislynn just committed to MTSU.
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