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PostPosted: 09/04/18 11:00 pm    ::: Phoenix Mercury 2019 Reply Reply with quote

So close... Shocked

The Mercury Championship window is still wide open, so who should they add? Question

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Phoenix's window is open, until Diana Taurasi decides she's done. "Wide" open is a stretch.



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January was more important to the Mercury than most thought she would be this year. It's also not clear how much longer she will play. Obviously a starting PF would be nice.



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I think it's slightly open. I was so passionate about this series because I thought it was the last shot Diana had. Seattle is only going to get stronger. Phoenix needs a huge pickup in free agency and it NEEDS to be another scoring threat.

I also have a gut feeling we are going to get a surprise from either Griner or Diana taking the year off.

Phoenix has a chance if the big three are back and healthy, January is still in the picture and an impact pickup is made. Will all that happen? Stay tuned.

Also, I'm all in on Cunningham to Phoenix. I don't care if nobody agrees Wink


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PostPosted: 09/04/18 11:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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January was more important to the Mercury than most thought she would be this year. It's also not clear how much longer she will play. Obviously a starting PF would be nice.


Yes please. Really..really important.

A few more shooters too off the bench. (Although Talbot and Turner absolutely should be used more.)

Not sure how I feel about Sandy. She was wonderful in the playoffs, but ridiculous at times during the regular season. The playoffs soften my feelings a lot, but maybe our team is not as exhausted against Seattle if we straighten things out in the regular season.



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PostPosted: 09/04/18 11:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Phoenix's window is open, until Diana Taurasi decides she's done. "Wide" open is a stretch.



Perhaps so... But in the off-season, Diana looked like she might be trending down due to age, and a 31-year old Bonner looked like she might not recover so quickly after giving birth... And in 2018, they put all that to rest. So that brings PHO back up to 3 superstars as the backbone to the team, which makes the Title chances look wide open for PHO to me, at least... Shocked

That said, just a few injuries had a strong effect, so adding to their depth or another starter should be a good move Idea



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mercfan wrote:
I think it's slightly open. I was so passionate about this series because I thought it was the last shot Diana had. Seattle is only going to get stronger. Phoenix needs a huge pickup in free agency and it NEEDS to be another scoring threat.

I also have a gut feeling we are going to get a surprise from either Griner or Diana taking the year off.

Phoenix has a chance if the big three are back and healthy, January is still in the picture and an impact pickup is made. Will all that happen? Stay tuned.

Also, I'm all in on Cunningham to Phoenix. I don't care if nobody agrees Wink


I don’t think Taurasi or Brit will skip a year THIS season.

My gut says though, Brit does after Diana retires. She’s made it a point to say that “Diana retires when she does..” well...

I’m concerned about the Window for the Storm too, but at the same time..it’s obvious they need Bird..who is just as old as DT.

Would like to get a really good post pickup, a shooter (to go with Talbot and Turner).. it have to rely on DT SO much, and get a few byes, so we don’t have to win the single elimination game tournament. IMO, part of the reason we lost was Phoenix finally got tired.



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PostPosted: 09/04/18 11:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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mercfan wrote:
I think it's slightly open. I was so passionate about this series because I thought it was the last shot Diana had. Seattle is only going to get stronger. Phoenix needs a huge pickup in free agency and it NEEDS to be another scoring threat.

I also have a gut feeling we are going to get a surprise from either Griner or Diana taking the year off.

Phoenix has a chance if the big three are back and healthy, January is still in the picture and an impact pickup is made. Will all that happen? Stay tuned.

Also, I'm all in on Cunningham to Phoenix. I don't care if nobody agrees Wink


I don’t think Taurasi or Brit will skip a year THIS season.

My gut says though, Brit does after Diana retires. She’s made it a point to say that “Diana retires when she does..” well...

I’m concerned about the Window for the Storm too, but at the same time..it’s obvious they need Bird..who is just as old as DT.

Would like to get a really good post pickup, a shooter (to go with Talbot and Turner).. it have to rely on DT SO much, and get a few byes, so we don’t have to win the single elimination game tournament. IMO, part of the reason we lost was Phoenix finally got tired.


What's your ideal draft for #8 and #13. In a perfect yet realistic world? Mine is probably Collier dropping to 8 and Cunningham dropping to 13. I didn't emphasis realistic when I thought that through though haha.


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1. Find a starting PF
2. Deepen the bench.
3. Find a legit back-up for Griner.

Can they get a PF in the draft at #8? Magbegor?

PG: January/Mitchell
SG: Taurasi/Turner
SF: Bonner/Talbot/Musina?
PF: Magbegor/Peters
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What's your ideal draft for #8 and #13. In a perfect yet realistic world? Mine is probably Collier dropping to 8 and Cunningham dropping to 13. I didn't emphasis realistic when I thought that through though haha.


I want to give up the draft picks to get a vet. We aren’t in a rebuild, and Sandy doesn’t like younger players.



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PostPosted: 09/04/18 11:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

mercfan wrote:
I think it's slightly open. I was so passionate about this series because I thought it was the last shot Diana had. Seattle is only going to get stronger. Phoenix needs a huge pickup in free agency and it NEEDS to be another scoring threat.

I also have a gut feeling we are going to get a surprise from either Griner or Diana taking the year off.

Phoenix has a chance if the big three are back and healthy, January is still in the picture and an impact pickup is made. Will all that happen? Stay tuned.

Also, I'm all in on Cunningham to Phoenix. I don't care if nobody agrees Wink


DT retired from overseas play so i dont think she is going to sit out anymore wnba seasons. If i was the mercury i would go after Meesseman.



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PostPosted: 09/05/18 12:04 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Not a full plan just some brain storming
Draft 1
#8 Magbegor #13 Laska

draft 2
#8 B. Turner #13 Mabrey

draft 3
#8 Cunningham #13 Gustafason if she can play PF

draft trades
#8 for Harrison
#8 for Copper (If Bonner is shifted to the starting PF spot)
#8 for Dupree (OK been there done that but could probably of helped this series)
#8 and C. Little (she used to play for Agler in Seattle) for Lavender
#8 for Hamby or Coffey
#8 maybe for S. Johnson if she plays over seas and proves to be healthy
#13 for Zahui B.

Maybe Sandy can entice O'Hea to sign on after the Worlds

Bring back Musina
or Cannon she probably could have contributed this series, why did they cut her in the first place?

Christmas might a good fit if she is an UFA

Ironically Glory Johnson would probably be the perfect fit.


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PostPosted: 09/05/18 9:22 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Anigwe might be a good fit for Phoenix, depending on her senior season at Cal. Not that it really matters, but she's from Phoenix ...



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They might have to do something about the Bonner/Dupree situation, given the noises those two were making earlier this season. I mean it could work out fine for Phoenix without doing anything - Bonner re-signs with them, Dupree skips the WNBA season to stay around her and the kids, Mercury don't lose a thing. But if both really want to play but only on the same team, or it's Bonner who looks like she might not play if they're not on the same squad, or whatever other awkward scenario, then Phoenix might have to do something. Whether that's trading Bonner, or accepting the need to reacquire Dupree, or whatever, it could mean a move.

Meanwhile, it amuses me how many people seem to think Magbegor is the answer to their problems, likely without ever having seen her play. At least wait until you see a couple of games at Worlds before anointing her as a top-8 pick.



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Is Sancho Lytle not signed for next year?


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Is Sancho Lytle not signed for next year?


Not according to the Megdal spreadsheet FWIW. However, ACL recovery and age suggest she may not play in the WNBA next year, if ever.


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Is Sancho Lyttle not signed for next year?


Not according to the Megdal spreadsheet FWIW. However, ACL recovery and age suggest she may not play in the WNBA next year, if ever.


Okay, Dr Clay.... Surprised



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PostPosted: 09/05/18 10:13 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Meanwhile, it amuses me how many people seem to think Magbegor is the answer to their problems, likely without ever having seen her play. At least wait until you see a couple of games at Worlds before anointing her as a top-8 pick.


It's Musina all over again. Sure, it bodes well for their future that these players can beat-up kids their own age. However, it doesn't mean they can make a major impact against adults. Remember, Salvadores and Zandalasinii were youth tournament stars before them. Neither is yet an impact professional. These young players may very well turn out to be really good down the road, but if teams are looking for immediate help they're probably not the answer.



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PostPosted: 09/05/18 10:14 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

root_thing wrote:
Richyyy wrote:

Meanwhile, it amuses me how many people seem to think Magbegor is the answer to their problems, likely without ever having seen her play. At least wait until you see a couple of games at Worlds before anointing her as a top-8 pick.


It's Musina all over again. Sure, it bodes well for their future that these players can beat-up kids their own age. However, it doesn't mean they can make a major impact against adults. Remember, Salvadores and Zandalasinii were youth tournament stars before them. Neither is yet an impact professional. These young players may very well turn out to be really good down the road, but if teams are looking for immediate help they're probably not the answer.

Zandalasini also tore up last year's EuroBasket. She's not just a youth wonder.


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We aren’t in a rebuild, and Sandy doesn’t like younger players.


She likes certain young players, you know, like from a strange far-off land... kinda like Talbot. Young players that Brondello can use her time coaching in the WNBA to polish into shiny Opals. Cool



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They might have to do something about the Bonner/Dupree situation, given the noises those two were making earlier this season.


are they both signed overseas? To different teams?
Anyway, you would think that Indy would trade her back for something like Gulich and their 1st round pick if Phoenix really wanted her back.



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These young players may very well turn out to be really good down the road, but if teams are looking for immediate help they're probably not the answer.


Well it’s the #8 pick and PHX has a decent squad. Which prospect that may be available at #8 are you anticipating would be immediately impactful to PHX?



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Aladyyn wrote:
root_thing wrote:
Richyyy wrote:

Meanwhile, it amuses me how many people seem to think Magbegor is the answer to their problems, likely without ever having seen her play. At least wait until you see a couple of games at Worlds before anointing her as a top-8 pick.


It's Musina all over again. Sure, it bodes well for their future that these players can beat-up kids their own age. However, it doesn't mean they can make a major impact against adults. Remember, Salvadores and Zandalasinii were youth tournament stars before them. Neither is yet an impact professional. These young players may very well turn out to be really good down the road, but if teams are looking for immediate help they're probably not the answer.

Zandalasini also tore up last year's EuroBasket. She's not just a youth wonder.


You're kind of making my point. Zandalisini did that at age 21, and only after that tournament did she get signed. Cecilia went undrafted at age 20. There's a big difference between being selected #8 and being undrafted. Magbegor is currently 19 years old. She just put up 6.6 ppg and 3.8 rpg in the Australian League (WNBL). Ezi has to improve a lot before she can be helpful to a WNBA team. And notice that I intentionally left out Vadeeva. She was actually playing significant minutes and making an impact against adults when she was only 18. So, the speculation about her WNBA prospects was legitimate.



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myrtle wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
They might have to do something about the Bonner/Dupree situation, given the noises those two were making earlier this season.


are they both signed overseas? To different teams?
Anyway, you would think that Indy would trade her back for something like Gulich and their 1st round pick if Phoenix really wanted her back.


Who knows, maybe playing on different teams worked out better for them than they both anticipated. Sure seemed to work out great for Bonner. She had maybe her best season playing in Dupree’s position. She does DuPree better than DuPree.



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Has anyone confirmed that Dee is not going overseas? Last I heard was a half year contract.


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Shades wrote:
root_thing wrote:

These young players may very well turn out to be really good down the road, but if teams are looking for immediate help they're probably not the answer.


Well it’s the #8 pick and PHX has a decent squad. Which prospect that may be available at #8 are you anticipating would be immediately impactful to PHX?


The #8 pick in a good draft can certainly be a rotation player. I'm not particularly focused on Phoenix, but other people have mentioned Anigwe and Cunningham. Right now, they certainly look more ready to contribute than Magbegor. And remember, Phoenix has #13. If the theory is that Brondello feels compelled to take Magbegor because of their Australian connection, then there's no reason why Sandy can't wait until #13. No other coach/GM has that extra incentive.



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#8 and Steph Talbot to NY for Tina Charles Laughing



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toad455 wrote:
1. Find a starting PF
2. Deepen the bench.
3. Find a legit back-up for Griner.

Can they get a PF in the draft at #8? Magbegor?

PG: January/Mitchell
SG: Taurasi/Turner
SF: Bonner/Talbot/Musina?
PF: Magbegor/Peters
C: Griner/???


Per Howard Medgal, Camille Little is under contract for 2019 at 100k, which can hamper free agency. I do not yet have an opinion as to the accuracy of Medgal's information (the articles I searched regarding Little's re-signing did not make mention of whether the deal was a multi-year one, as they did for Mitchell and Griner).

Yvonne Turner proved, in the playoffs, she has potential to be a scoring option. The question is whether she can do it as a bench player or is it only limited to when she is the 5th option (or 4th option) in the starting lineup.

I liked Talbot's progression this year, and I am hoping she takes the next step.

That being said, Talbot is the only player on Phoenix's roster who was a draft pick between 2014 and 2017. Four drafts yielded one current player on the roster (yes, there were trades, but you see my point). Phoenix needs to develop young players and cannot rely solely on free agency.


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CamrnCrz1974 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
1. Find a starting PF
2. Deepen the bench.
3. Find a legit back-up for Griner.

Can they get a PF in the draft at #8? Magbegor?

PG: January/Mitchell
SG: Taurasi/Turner
SF: Bonner/Talbot/Musina?
PF: Magbegor/Peters
C: Griner/???


Per Howard Medgal, Camille Little is under contract for 2019 at 100k, which can hamper free agency. I do not yet have an opinion as to the accuracy of Medgal's information (the articles I searched regarding Little's re-signing did not make mention of whether the deal was a multi-year one, as they did for Mitchell and Griner).

Yvonne Turner proved, in the playoffs, she has potential to be a scoring option. The question is whether she can do it as a bench player or is it only limited to when she is the 5th option (or 4th option) in the starting lineup.

I liked Talbot's progression this year, and I am hoping she takes the next step.

That being said, Talbot is the only player on Phoenix's roster who was a draft pick between 2014 and 2017. Four drafts yielded one current player on the roster (yes, there were trades, but you see my point). Phoenix needs to develop young players and cannot rely solely on free agency.


Seriously?

Would anyone want Little?



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Seriously?

Would anyone want Little?

Someone with acres of cap room might. She still plays hard and could give you some minutes over a regular season. But I doubt anyone's taking her until they've exhausted other options.



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Richyyy wrote:
mercfan3 wrote:
Seriously?

Would anyone want Little?

Someone with acres of cap room might. She still plays hard and could give you some minutes over a regular season. But I doubt anyone's taking her until they've exhausted other options.


I could never see why the Mercury wanted her in the first place and it seemed to me they overpaid for her.


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Richyyy wrote:
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Seriously?

Would anyone want Little?

Someone with acres of cap room might. She still plays hard and could give you some minutes over a regular season. But I doubt anyone's taking her until they've exhausted other options.


Chicago?



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myrtle wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
mercfan3 wrote:
Seriously?

Would anyone want Little?

Someone with acres of cap room might. She still plays hard and could give you some minutes over a regular season. But I doubt anyone's taking her until they've exhausted other options.


Chicago?

I mean, plausibly, sure. But even once they find someone to run the team, they've got a lot of things higher up the priority list. And probably a lot of options they'd rather fill their power forward spot with.



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The Mercury also have a way of dumping their point guards after one season.


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The Mercury also have a way of dumping their point guards after one season.


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myrtle wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
mercfan3 wrote:
Seriously?

Would anyone want Little?

Someone with acres of cap room might. She still plays hard and could give you some minutes over a regular season. But I doubt anyone's taking her until they've exhausted other options.


Chicago?


No thanks


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I want Cunningham and Taurasi on the same court. Swagger through the roof. DT can mentor Cunningham on how to channel all those emotions Laughing
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PayPal is getting a patch on the Phoenix Suns jersey (unusual for NBA teams). It’ll show up on the Mercury jerseys as well. It looks like PayPal will be the official payment system of Phoenix basketball.

https://www.adweek.com/digital/paypal-is-sponsoring-the-phoenix-suns-for-the-2018-2019-season/



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DT can mentor Cunningham on how to channel all those emotions Laughing


I doubt she’ll need any help with that.



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At least half the NBA has these sponsor patches now: https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacglover/2017/09/12/here-are-the-14-nba-teams-that-now-have-jersey-sponsorship-deals/ . It's the NBA dipping their toes in the water of turning their jersey space over to sponsorship, without taking the criticism they'd face for going as far as the WNBA has (plus their loss from jersey sales would be way, way higher).

This feels like one of those things that can go in the books as rewarding the WNBA franchise as much or as little as the organisation likes. Could imagine the WNBPA's accountants questioning things like that when they get a look at the books.

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