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PostPosted: 09/02/18 6:30 pm    ::: Draft game Reply Reply with quote

Here is a fun, little game (unless you are a Liberty fan). Take any franchise and make your best starting 5 using only players that the franchise drafted from 2000 forward. I don't include the first few years because the initial draft included all players and 1999 included players as a result of the ABL folding. Also, this does not include dispersal drafts for folded teams; only the annual draft of college and foreign players.

I'll take Chicago:

C - Sylvia Fowles
F - Elena Delle Donne
F - Candace DuPree
G - Courtney Vandersloot
G - Kristi Toliver


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PostPosted: 09/02/18 6:42 pm    ::: Re: Draft game Reply Reply with quote

calbearman76 wrote:
Here is a fun, little game (unless you are a Liberty fan). Take any franchise and make your best starting 5 using only players that the franchise drafted from 2000 forward. I don't include the first few years because the initial draft included all players and 1999 included players as a result of the ABL folding. Also, this does not include dispersal drafts for folded teams; only the annual draft of college and foreign players.

I'll take Chicago:

C - Sylvia Fowles
F - Elena Delle Donne
F - Candace DuPree
G - Courtney Vandersloot
G - Kristi Toliver


Terrible defensive team Laughing but man they would outscore anyone


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PostPosted: 09/02/18 6:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

this team would not be super competitive right now but if we are talking about overall peak of their careers, here’s Phoenix:

Cappie
Diana
Bonner
Pierson
Griner

With Courtney Williams right off the bench.

Pretty good squad if you ask me.


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PostPosted: 09/02/18 7:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

mercfan wrote:
this team would not be super competitive right now but if we are talking about overall peak of their careers, here’s Phoenix:



To be clear, I am talking about the peak of their careers. Otherwise players from 2000 would be at a big disadvantage.


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PostPosted: 09/02/18 7:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Phoenix:

Cappie
Diana
Bonner
Harrison
Griner
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PostPosted: 09/02/18 7:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

yeah this is a rough game for the Liberty

I got
small ball starters
Loree Moore, Kia Nurse, Essence Carson, Shameka Christon and Kia Vaughn

and mostly big girls on the bench
Boyd, Tiff Jackson, Davenport, Bone, Larkins and Stokes


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PostPosted: 09/02/18 9:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Detroit/Tulsa/Dallas

Diggins-Smith
Deanna Nolan
Swin Cash
Cheryl Ford
Liz Cambage
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PostPosted: 09/02/18 9:42 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

It would be hard to make a competitive team out of Atlanta's draft picks. We haven't had much luck on draft day.



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PostPosted: 09/02/18 10:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The Dream would be a super small team

Bentley
Sykes
Hayes
Holmes
McCoughtry


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PostPosted: 09/02/18 11:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Seattle
Sue Bird
Jewell Loyd
Allie Quigley
Brianna Stewart
Lauren Jackson
6 Tanisha Wright



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PostPosted: 09/03/18 5:58 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Natasha Cloud
Tayler Hill
Alana Beard
Emma Meesseman
Crystal Langhorne (or Stef Dolson)

Let's just say there's a reason Washington is the worst franchise in league history Laughing Laughing Laughing


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PostPosted: 09/03/18 8:23 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Indiana:

Tamika Catchings
Tamika Catchings
Tamika Catchings
Tamika Catchings
Tamika Catchings

That's allowed, right? Smile



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PostPosted: 09/03/18 9:14 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Richyyy wrote:
Indiana:

Tamika Catchings
Tamika Catchings
Tamika Catchings
Tamika Catchings
Tamika Catchings

That's allowed, right? :)


She was always a team player, so I suspect she wouldn't mind Briann January, Layshia Clarendon, Natalie Achonwa and Natasha Howard beside her. It would certainly be a great defense.


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PostPosted: 09/03/18 11:04 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Richyyy wrote:
Indiana:

Tamika Catchings
Tamika Catchings
Tamika Catchings
Tamika Catchings
Tamika Catchings

That's allowed, right? Smile


It would seem appropriate at this time to mention Tamika Catchings having a quintuple double in high school in 1997.
25 points, 18 rebounds, 11 assists, 10 steals, 10 blocks
Thus validating reasoning of entering her name 5 times, once for each quintuple double category.
She has been quoted as saying because of her impaired hearing that she just wanted to be normal. She was not normal on the basketball court. She was an EVERY category star.


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PostPosted: 09/03/18 11:47 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

calbearman76 wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
Indiana:

Tamika Catchings
Tamika Catchings
Tamika Catchings
Tamika Catchings
Tamika Catchings

That's allowed, right? Smile


She was always a team player, so I suspect she wouldn't mind Briann January, Layshia Clarendon, Natalie Achonwa and Natasha Howard beside her. It would certainly be a great defense.

Reminds me of an in-depth interview with Jason Taylor, the former all-pro defensive end for the Miami Dolphins. They were talkiing about all the horrible injuries he had to play through during his career, and basically asked "So when your arm was practically falling off, your knee was torn up and you were playing through your third concussion that month, how did you play that Sunday?" And he said "Oh I was pretty bad. But I was better than my backup would've been." Even falling to bits and drugged up to his eyeballs, the best option for the team was still for him to play, so he played.

The truly team-oriented move for Catch to make here is to clone herself four times and play every spot. Smile



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PostPosted: 09/03/18 3:20 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
Detroit/Tulsa/Dallas

Diggins-Smith
Deanna Nolan
Swin Cash
Cheryl Ford
Liz Cambage



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PostPosted: 09/04/18 12:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

It's still her rookie year, but I wouldn't be surprised if Ariel Atkins winds up surpassing Tayler Hill's contributions to the Mystics.

And that's coming from someone who thought Mike T made a bad draft choice in picking her.


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PostPosted: 09/04/18 12:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

vallee wrote:
It's still her rookie year, but I wouldn't be surprised if Ariel Atkins winds up surpassing Tayler Hill's contributions to the Mystics.


Is this a low key way to point out that having a baby and tearing your ACL aren’t the best ways to contribute?



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PostPosted: 09/04/18 1:01 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
vallee wrote:
It's still her rookie year, but I wouldn't be surprised if Ariel Atkins winds up surpassing Tayler Hill's contributions to the Mystics.


Is this a low key way to point out that having and baby and tearing your ACL aren’t the best ways to contribute?


Or it just means Atkins is better Smile


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PostPosted: 09/04/18 1:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

vallee wrote:
It's still her rookie year, but I wouldn't be surprised if Ariel Atkins winds up surpassing Tayler Hill's contributions to the Mystics.

And that's coming from someone who thought Mike T made a bad draft choice in picking her.

I would be surprised if she doesn't. And I like Hill a lot. But I didn't want to put a rookie on there because that would just make our drafting look even worse Laughing Laughing


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PostPosted: 09/04/18 1:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
yeah this is a rough game for the Liberty

I got
small ball starters
Loree Moore, Kia Nurse, Essence Carson, Shameka Christon and Kia Vaughn

and mostly big girls on the bench
Boyd, Tiff Jackson, Davenport, Bone, Larkins and Stokes


It's technically a trade, but for all intents and purposes, Jessica Breland was drafted by the Liberty. We had a video showing Whisenant making that contingent trade before the draft, as well as one for Colson. Given our sad history, we have to scrounge for every small bit of credit we can get. Smile



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PostPosted: 09/04/18 1:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Utah/ San Antonio / Las Vegas
Danielle Robinson
Marie Ferdinand-Harris
Sophia Young
Danielle Adams
A’ja Wilson
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PostPosted: 09/04/18 9:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

After Atkins' performance in tonight's game five, she's definitely on my Mystics draft team.


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PostPosted: 09/12/18 6:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

This is harder than I thought. Our only keepers have been bigs. And yes, I realize I didn't have to pick nearly all current Sparks. Our draft history has left much to be desired.

1 - Parker - they say she can play all five positions
2 - Wiese or Sydney Spencer - Either one has only job - knock down open shots and open up the paint.
3 - Ogwumike - she has the athleticism
4 - Lavender - finally someone who can play her "natural position"
5 - Vadeeva - ditto
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PostPosted: 09/12/18 11:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ten of the Twelve teams were chosen, No one selected for either Minnesota or Connecticut, so here are my choices:

Minnesota

C- Janell Burse
F - Svetlana Abrosimova
F - Maya Moore
G - Seimone Augustus
G - Betty Lennox

The team is a little small, so I could put Devereaux Peters in place of Svetlana.

Connecticut

C - Jonquel Jones
F - Tina Charles
F - Chiney Ogwunike
G - Lindsay Whalen
G - Chelsea Gray

No room for either Elizabeth Williams or Alyssa Thomas in a ferocious front line.


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PostPosted: 09/12/18 11:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So the question now becomes, "How would you rate these teams against one another?"

Here is a recap of the teams selected:

The Dream
would be a super small team

Bentley
Sykes
Hayes
Holmes
McCoughtry

Chicago:

C - Sylvia Fowles
F - Elena Delle Donne
F - Candace DuPree
G - Courtney Vandersloot
G - Kristi Toliver

Connecticut

C - Jonquel Jones
F - Tina Charles
F - Chiney Ogwunike
G - Lindsay Whalen
G - Chelsea Gray


Detroit/Tulsa/Dallas

Diggins-Smith
Deanna Nolan
Swin Cash
Cheryl Ford
Liz Cambage

Indiana

C- Natasha Howard
F - Natalie Achonwa
F - Tameka Catchings
G - Layshia Clarendon
G - Briann January

Utah/ San Antonio / Las Vegas

Danielle Robinson
Marie Ferdinand-Harris
Sophia Young
Danielle Adams
A’ja Wilson

Los Angeles

1 - Parker - they say she can play all five positions
2 - Wiese or Sydney Spencer - Either one has only job - knock down open shots and open up the paint.
3 - Ogwumike - she has the athleticism
4 - Lavender - finally someone who can play her "natural position"
5 - Vadeeva - ditto

Minnesota

C- Janell Burse
F - Svetlana Abrosimova
F - Maya Moore
G - Seimone Augustus
G - Betty Lennox

New York
yeah this is a rough game for the Liberty

I got
small ball starters
Loree Moore, Kia Nurse, Essence Carson, Shameka Christon and Kia Vaughn

Phoenix

Cappie
Diana
Bonner
Pierson
Griner

Seattle

Sue Bird
Jewell Loyd
Allie Quigley
Brianna Stewart
Lauren Jackson

Washington

Natasha Cloud
Tayler Hill
Alana Beard
Emma Meesseman
Crystal Langhorne (or Stef Dolson)

I'll post mu choices in a few days.


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PostPosted: 09/12/18 11:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

my semi finals would be

Chi vs Conn

and

PX vs Seattle

(with Dallas and LA rounding out the top 6)

leading to a finals of

Chi vs Seattle

and just like tonight
Seattle comes out on top


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PostPosted: 09/15/18 10:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I would take Phoenix as the most balanced and complete team. Griner and Pierson provide tough, hard-nosed defense while Taurasi, Pondexter and Bonner are all dynamic scorers. Chicago, Seattle and Dallas would be the next 3 teams. Chicago and Dallas both have dominant centers (Fowles and Cambage). Seattle has Stewart and Jackson who would be able to compete to some degree and would create major matchup problems. Connecticut would be #5 as the other complete team.

The next 3 teams for me would be Indiana, Los Angeles and Minnesota in no particular order based on some major star power but some glaring holes. Atlanta, Las Vegas and Washington would form the next cluster and the Liberty would be last. Hard to believe that in 18 years of picks the Liberty have not been able to draft a single perennial all-star,


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PostPosted: 10/01/18 2:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

boom*NNEKA*nneka wrote:
This is harder than I thought. Our only keepers have been bigs. And yes, I realize I didn't have to pick nearly all current Sparks. Our draft history has left much to be desired.

1 - Parker - they say she can play all five positions
2 - Wiese or Sydney Spencer - Either one has only job - knock down open shots and open up the paint.
3 - Ogwumike - she has the athleticism
4 - Lavender - finally someone who can play her "natural position"
5 - Vadeeva - ditto


Wiese was 0/3 for the year Laughing Laughing


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