View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
J-Spoon
Joined: 31 Jan 2009 Posts: 6831
Back to top |
Posted: 08/28/18 11:34 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
McCowan just seems like the easy choice here.
She can be the rim protector and take the bigger opponent on defense. And stay out of the way and get rebounds on offense. Put backs and hand offs from Wilson should get her 10 points a game without ever needing to get a play called for her. Oh and Harrison for Copper that works for both teams
Plum/Jefferson
McBride/Copper
Young/Coffey/Nared
Wilson/Hamby
McCowan/Swords/Park
|
|
AFO
Joined: 19 Dec 2017 Posts: 27
Back to top |
Posted: 08/28/18 11:50 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
Is it possible that we can challenge the Liberty thread for most posts this year? OMG... what a f..in nightmare, to quote my favorite movie.
|
|
J-Spoon
Joined: 31 Jan 2009 Posts: 6831
Back to top |
Posted: 08/28/18 11:57 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
AFO wrote: |
Is it possible that we can challenge the Liberty thread for most posts this year? OMG... what a f..in nightmare, to quote my favorite movie. |
It is possible?
But you need a little more misfortune and a much more committed, homegrown, neurotic and repetitive fan base.
Did I say repetitive?
|
|
Admiral_Needa
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 10482 Location: Tiburon, CA
Back to top |
|
Admiral_Needa
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 10482 Location: Tiburon, CA
Back to top |
|
Shades
Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 63976
Back to top |
|
Randy
Joined: 08 Oct 2011 Posts: 10911
Back to top |
|
WNBA 09
Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 12647 Location: Dallas , Texas
Back to top |
|
Randy
Joined: 08 Oct 2011 Posts: 10911
Back to top |
Posted: 08/29/18 1:14 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
nvm
|
|
GlennMacGrady
Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 8289 Location: Heisenberg
Back to top |
Posted: 08/29/18 6:24 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
myrtle wrote: |
I like Ionescu but am not as enamored with her as everyone on here seems to be. |
Make that two of us. However, I might take Ionescu over Brown and McCowan because I'm even less enamored of them . . . as of now. |
|
Cooper2009
Joined: 04 Nov 2017 Posts: 197 Location: Atlanta
Back to top |
Posted: 08/30/18 6:58 am ::: |
Reply |
|
Brown will be a good get. McCowen would be a good fit for this particular tram. All they need is a rebounder who is willing to bang, so that Wilson doesn’t have to, and score off of putback. McCowen would be perfect for that role. Package Harrison/Coffey/Hamby for a SF only giving up Harrison if extremely necessary. (Copper, Thornton, Davis) Let Plum continue to emerge and let this team grow together.
The core of Plum/McBride/Wilson needs another year or two and they will push for a title. Add in a rim protecting, rebounding, big. And a sf capable of shooting the rock and defending.... team could be fun soon. With them, the sun, and the emergence of Seattle’s new core the W is in good hands
_________________ Nared.
|
|
Shades
Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 63976
Back to top |
Posted: 08/30/18 9:09 am ::: |
Reply |
|
Cooper2009 wrote: |
McCowan would be a good fit for this particular team. All they need is a rebounder who is willing to bang, so that Wilson doesn’t have to, and score off of putback. McCowan would be perfect for that role. |
I love seeing some wisdom on the forum. What they need is a younger, taller, more imposing version of Swords. Probability of failure is low if Laimbeer goes in this direction.
Cooper2009 wrote: |
Package Harrison/Coffey/Hamby for a SF only giving up Harrison if extremely necessary. (Copper, Thornton, Davis) Let Plum continue to emerge and let this team grow together. |
Maybe they could do a presidential package of Harrison/Jefferson, or maybe they just keep them for some quality depth. With Harrison, it’s hard to say what’s going on. Has she been really sick? Is it something she can overcome to return to basketball? Does she even want to return to basketball? Evidently she felt it was important to finish up her masters while she’s been out. It’s hard to factor her in on anything until we learn more, which may not be until February.
Cooper2009 wrote: |
Add in a rim protecting, rebounding, big. And a sf capable of shooting the rock and defending |
That’s always a tough one. With the SF, usually you only get one or the other, a great shooter or great defense, with great defense probably being a bit rarer. The Maya’s don’t grow on trees. Looks like Laimbeer leans towards defense, although it does seem Young is always a bit underrated scoring-wise.
Cooper2009 wrote: |
With them, the sun, and the emergence of Seattle’s new core the W is in good hands |
I guess the Lynx need to switch to Allstate, so they get their good hands back.
_________________ Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
|
|
TotalCardinalMove
Joined: 13 Oct 2013 Posts: 1467
Back to top |
|
SpaceJunkie
Joined: 10 Sep 2012 Posts: 4241 Location: Minnesota
Back to top |
Posted: 08/30/18 10:53 am ::: |
Reply |
|
Shades wrote: |
Cooper2009 wrote: |
With them, the sun, and the emergence of Seattle’s new core the W is in good hands |
I guess the Lynx need to switch to Allstate, so they get their good hands back. |
I'm not sure if Seattle getting a DPOY/MVP caliber superstar for nothing counts as a robbery, and thus the Lynx would be covered by Allstate, since Reeve willingly gave her away.
|
|
5thmantheme
Joined: 11 Apr 2016 Posts: 540
Back to top |
Posted: 08/30/18 5:27 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
J-Spoon wrote: |
AFO wrote: |
Is it possible that we can challenge the Liberty thread for most posts this year? OMG... what a f..in nightmare, to quote my favorite movie. |
It is possible?
But you need a little more misfortune and a much more committed, homegrown, neurotic and repetitive fan base.
Did I say repetitive? |
Heh.
You could dangle (publicly) anyone from 1 to 11, for their 2 to 12. And/or the Tina swap for the #1 + pieces.
You know you wanna ...
|
|
WNBA 09
Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 12647 Location: Dallas , Texas
Back to top |
|
TotalCardinalMove
Joined: 13 Oct 2013 Posts: 1467
Back to top |
Posted: 08/30/18 6:32 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
WNBA 09 wrote: |
TotalCardinalMove wrote: |
McCowan is not even worth a #1 pick they’d be better off picking the best player and figuring out the rest later. You don’t “need” to pick a post player just because she is tall. For those that actually watch games, McCowan does not have many skills, and doesn’t have enough range on her jumper to not get in Aja’s way. She’s also not a very good passer. Also, the days of having “twin towers” are behind us. The four teams still playing for a WNBA championship utilize spacing. Of the four, only the Mercury have a starter that’s over 6’7, and even then they surrounded her with four shooters. Seattle has Stewie and Howard, both players are versatile and can step out to the perimeter. Atlanta has Breland and Williams, both are 6’3, and Breland has a reliable and consistent jumper. And Washington’s starting center is LaToya Sanders. She is also only 6’3 but is very versatile and mobile. |
McCowan just needs to rebound and put back shots that come off the rim . Being worth a #1 pick or not thats what LV needs ASAP. Figuring out the rest later will have them in the lottery again next season . |
At #1, you take best available, period. McCowan is far from that. Brown would be a much better choice. It’d probably be wise to trade down if Ionescu doesn’t declare.
|
|
bcdawg04
Joined: 12 Apr 2016 Posts: 586 Location: Seattle
Back to top |
Posted: 08/30/18 7:48 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
Shades wrote: |
Cooper2009 wrote: |
Package Harrison/Coffey/Hamby for a SF only giving up Harrison if extremely necessary. (Copper, Thornton, Davis) Let Plum continue to emerge and let this team grow together. |
Maybe they could do a presidential package of Harrison/Jefferson, or maybe they just keep them for some quality depth. With Harrison, it’s hard to say what’s going on. Has she been really sick? Is it something she can overcome to return to basketball? Does she even want to return to basketball? Evidently she felt it was important to finish up her masters while she’s been out. It’s hard to factor her in on anything until we learn more, which may not be until February.
|
According to an article linked in the Las Vegas Aces 2018 thread, Harrison is dealing with an autoimmune illness. So yes, she would likely be able to return to basketball...if she wants to.
Seattle Reign player Yael Averbuch is being treated for ulcerative colitis--last season (she was with a different team), she played through a serious flare up.
Venus Williams has been playing with Sjogren's Syndrome for several years.
Autoimmune illnesses are chronic, so such a diagnosis typically means being on immunosuppressants and/or other medications for the rest of one's life. Depending on how long it took to get diagnosed, how effective the treatment is, and how she deals with the treatment will determine how difficult it will be to return to basketball. But if she really wants to, she should be able to. I can't imagine any teams willing to trade for her, though, without knowing how much she wants to return and seeing her play again.
|
|
tfan
Joined: 31 May 2010 Posts: 9816
Back to top |
Posted: 08/31/18 3:09 am ::: |
Reply |
|
3 #1’s plus Young, McBride, Hamby and Swords. Wow, the pressure is really on for Laimbeer. I think Aces ownership will look at 24 wins at a minimum and expect a trip to the finals. His seat could get very hot with any extended losing streak.
|
|
WNBA 09
Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 12647 Location: Dallas , Texas
Back to top |
|
NYL_WNBA_FAN
Joined: 28 May 2007 Posts: 14097
Back to top |
Posted: 08/31/18 11:30 am ::: |
Reply |
|
My two cents on McCowan. I've watched her. She's not terribly offensively skilled and I get that she needs work. But she's also not just tall. She can run and she can cover ground in the paint in just a few strides. At a listed 6'7" 238 you'd be getting close to an unparalled amount of physical talent. She doesn't run like Boyd, but when you look at her height/weight and see the agility and ability to run the floor...my first thought is she's made for the defensive 3-second rule. Even on offense she'll average close to 10 a game just on layups and putbacks. Stokes did well with that as a rookie and she's 30-40 pounds lighter and 4 inches shorter.
Things that she doesn't do well...like footwork...could be coached by someone like Laimbeer. Since they have shooters like Plum and McBride it's not as though spacing is outside their realm. Durr can't play the 3 and Bill is on record as wanting to limit McBride's time there. Plus Coffey played well before she got hurt. LV has a desperate need for rim protection. Unless Ionescu declares (you don't pass up generational players in favor of need) there's no player who vastly exceeds McCowan's value anyway.
_________________ The poster formerly known as LibWNBAFan.
|
|
NYL_WNBA_FAN
Joined: 28 May 2007 Posts: 14097
Back to top |
Posted: 09/02/18 8:22 am ::: |
Reply |
|
AFO wrote: |
Is it possible that we can challenge the Liberty thread for most posts this year? OMG... what a f..in nightmare, to quote my favorite movie. |
My Cousin Vinny. Hilarious movie indeed. I think the Liberty thread will win out though you would be more than welcomed back in New York to be a part of it.
_________________ The poster formerly known as LibWNBAFan.
|
|
Shades
Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 63976
Back to top |
|
myrtle
Joined: 02 May 2008 Posts: 32341
Back to top |
Posted: 09/03/18 7:49 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
NYL_WNBA_FAN wrote: |
My two cents on McCowan. I've watched her. She's not terribly offensively skilled and I get that she needs work. But she's also not just tall. She can run and she can cover ground in the paint in just a few strides. At a listed 6'7" 238 you'd be getting close to an unparalled amount of physical talent. She doesn't run like Boyd, but when you look at her height/weight and see the agility and ability to run the floor...my first thought is she's made for the defensive 3-second rule. Even on offense she'll average close to 10 a game just on layups and putbacks. Stokes did well with that as a rookie and she's 30-40 pounds lighter and 4 inches shorter.
Things that she doesn't do well...like footwork...could be coached by someone like Laimbeer. Since they have shooters like Plum and McBride it's not as though spacing is outside their realm. Durr can't play the 3 and Bill is on record as wanting to limit McBride's time there. Plus Coffey played well before she got hurt. LV has a desperate need for rim protection. Unless Ionescu declares (you don't pass up generational players in favor of need) there's no player who vastly exceeds McCowan's value anyway. |
I haven't seen those two things. She's about the slowest up the floor of any big in college ball that I've seen.
_________________ For there is always light,
if only we’re brave enough to see it.
If only we’re brave enough to be it.
- Amanda Gorman
|
|
toad455
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 22482 Location: NJ
Back to top |
Posted: 09/03/18 7:56 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
McCowan is a sloth running up the court.
_________________ LET'S GO LIBERTY!!!!!!
Twitter: @TBRBWAY
|
|
|
|