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PostPosted: 09/05/17 11:11 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Twigs great memories of lots of these girls, though I don't recognize them all. I understand this is statistical comparison - but some of them actually have similar games and others...



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PostPosted: 09/05/17 11:42 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
Twigs great memories of lots of these girls, though I don't recognize them all. I understand this is statistical comparison - but some of them actually have similar games and others...


We're still working from a pretty small database. Fewer than 900 players have played in the league, and a fair number of those were already mid-career when they started in the league (and thus don't show up as similar to any real rookies).

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I can clearly see the similarities between Sykes and Adams.....


When you get down to 945 that's not very similar for a rookie. Actually, Sykes not having any close matches is a good thing for Atlanta fans. The old saying is that happy families are all the same but unhappy ones are each unhappy in their own way. Basketball players are like that; mediocre ones are all the same but good ones are each good in their own way. You can see that in the scores. Sykes & Gray, who had the best rookie seasons, don't have any very close matches and have few relatively close (980+) matches.



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PostPosted: 09/05/17 4:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Kelsey Plum fans have to be heartened by that list ...


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PostPosted: 08/20/18 11:25 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Similar to Ji Su Park

Nobody, really


LVA PR should start calling her The Incomparable Ji Su Park!



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PostPosted: 08/20/18 11:53 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Are the similarity scores in order, from most similar to less similar? I'm guessing they are ...



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PostPosted: 08/20/18 12:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
Similar to Victoria Vivians

Samantha Prahalis
Latasha Byears

Amber Holt
Merlakia Jones
Tasha Humphrey
Nikki Teasley
Monique Currie
Kristi Toliver
Aerial Powers
Agnieszka Bibrzycka

!!!!!

Would this same formula also suggest that Prahalis and Byears were similar to each other? Because, if so, I have a few follow-up questions...



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root_thing wrote:
pilight wrote:

Similar to Ji Su Park

Nobody, really


LVA PR should start calling her The Incomparable Ji Su Park!


Underdog... er, um, @AFO, that is... PUT THAT ON A T-SHIRT!



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PostPosted: 08/21/18 11:24 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
Are the similarity scores in order, from most similar to less similar? I'm guessing they are ...


Yes, from most to least.



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PostPosted: 08/21/18 11:26 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Silky Johnson wrote:
pilight wrote:
Similar to Victoria Vivians

Samantha Prahalis
Latasha Byears

Amber Holt
Merlakia Jones
Tasha Humphrey
Nikki Teasley
Monique Currie
Kristi Toliver
Aerial Powers
Agnieszka Bibrzycka

!!!!!

Would this same formula also suggest that Prahalis and Byears were similar to each other? Because, if so, I have a few follow-up questions...


Vivians is somewhere between the two. The system does not rate Prahalis and Byears as particularly similar. Vivians isn't a great match for either one.



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PostPosted: 08/21/18 3:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
Silky Johnson wrote:
pilight wrote:
Similar to Victoria Vivians

Samantha Prahalis
Latasha Byears

Amber Holt
Merlakia Jones
Tasha Humphrey
Nikki Teasley
Monique Currie
Kristi Toliver
Aerial Powers
Agnieszka Bibrzycka

!!!!!

Would this same formula also suggest that Prahalis and Byears were similar to each other? Because, if so, I have a few follow-up questions...


Vivians is somewhere between the two. The system does not rate Prahalis and Byears as particularly similar. Vivians isn't a great match for either one.


The eye test says Merlakia Jones might be the best match ...



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PostPosted: 08/21/18 3:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

My question if two players have score that suggests they are quite similar what does that mean? Does it mean they could play the same positions? Or that they will have the same kind of career path? Or something else?


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PostPosted: 08/21/18 4:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
pilight wrote:
Silky Johnson wrote:
pilight wrote:
Similar to Victoria Vivians

Samantha Prahalis
Latasha Byears

Amber Holt
Merlakia Jones
Tasha Humphrey
Nikki Teasley
Monique Currie
Kristi Toliver
Aerial Powers
Agnieszka Bibrzycka

!!!!!

Would this same formula also suggest that Prahalis and Byears were similar to each other? Because, if so, I have a few follow-up questions...


Vivians is somewhere between the two. The system does not rate Prahalis and Byears as particularly similar. Vivians isn't a great match for either one.


The eye test says Merlakia Jones might be the best match ...


for Vivians ? Eye test wise i dont see , Lake could jump out the gym and had a nice pull up jumper. Vivans was just a 3 point shooter. Eye test id put her more in a Lori Koehn Category on the low end , High end Allie Quigley



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PostPosted: 08/21/18 4:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
ClayK wrote:
pilight wrote:
Silky Johnson wrote:
pilight wrote:
Similar to Victoria Vivians

Samantha Prahalis
Latasha Byears

Amber Holt
Merlakia Jones
Tasha Humphrey
Nikki Teasley
Monique Currie
Kristi Toliver
Aerial Powers
Agnieszka Bibrzycka

!!!!!

Would this same formula also suggest that Prahalis and Byears were similar to each other? Because, if so, I have a few follow-up questions...


Vivians is somewhere between the two. The system does not rate Prahalis and Byears as particularly similar. Vivians isn't a great match for either one.


The eye test says Merlakia Jones might be the best match ...


for Vivians ? Eye test wise i dont see , Lake could jump out the gym and had a nice pull up jumper. Vivans was just a 3 point shooter. Eye test id put her more in a Lori Koehn Category on the low end , High end Allie Quigley


I meant physically -- Laurie Koehn and Victoria Vivians do not greet the eye in quite the same way.



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PostPosted: 08/21/18 5:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

For rookie seasons I went to Sidney Spencer for Vivians. But for similarity scores, a lot of it depends on the age of the player. If you entered the league at a different age you're probably not going to show up on their list.



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Thanks. These are fun.



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Luuuc wrote:
Thanks. These are fun.


I was a little shocked to see who topped Ogunbowale's comps. Those two never show up for anybody.



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pilight wrote:
Luuuc wrote:
Thanks. These are fun.


I was a little shocked to see who topped Ogunbowale's comps. Those two never show up for anybody.


I am particularly surprised by Catchings. Even as a rookie, she was much more well-rounded than DT or Arike.


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PUmatty wrote:
pilight wrote:
Luuuc wrote:
Thanks. These are fun.


I was a little shocked to see who topped Ogunbowale's comps. Those two never show up for anybody.


I am particularly surprised by Catchings. Even as a rookie, she was much more well-rounded than DT or Arike.


They score 959, which is not all that close. Just closer than anyone else. When you're talking about rookies who score 600-ish points that cuts out 99% of the possibilities.



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Great stuff ... thanks.



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PostPosted: 09/20/21 2:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
Numbers for this year's rookies ...


Yikes.


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PostPosted: 08/15/22 3:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

This year's crop

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These similarity scores produce some pretty wild results. They're also a great trip down memory lane.



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