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PostPosted: 08/09/18 6:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Don’t blame Jefferson for her injury. They happen. Tbh couldn’t happen to a ‘nicer’ person. Hope this helps my team. Gin sun!!


They happen more often when you engage in dirty play


Was she actually trying to take out a player or only trying to save a loose ball and accidentally took out a player in the process, or both?


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PostPosted: 08/09/18 6:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Damn shame...One of the best,if not the best team Angel's ever played for IMO...and she gets hurt.


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pilight wrote:
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Don’t blame Jefferson for her injury. They happen. Tbh couldn’t happen to a ‘nicer’ person. Hope this helps my team. Gin sun!!


They happen more often when you engage in dirty play


Was she actually trying to take out a player or only trying to save a loose ball and accidentally took out a player in the process, or both?


Nobody else was down there on the floor. What does that tell you?



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pilight wrote:
SpaceJunkie wrote:
pilight wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
Don’t blame Jefferson for her injury. They happen. Tbh couldn’t happen to a ‘nicer’ person. Hope this helps my team. Gin sun!!


They happen more often when you engage in dirty play


Was she actually trying to take out a player or only trying to save a loose ball and accidentally took out a player in the process, or both?


Nobody else was down there on the floor. What does that tell you?


She was diving for the ball to try and save it, like football players do when there is a loose ball ahead of them?




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Don’t blame Jefferson for her injury. They happen. Tbh couldn’t happen to a ‘nicer’ person. Hope this helps my team. Gin sun!!

I don't know; right about now I think, it'd be pretty 'nice' if it happened to you.

At this moment, I'm hoping that when the final history is written on the WNBA, from 2018 until whenever the league ends, I hope that the record books show that every team in the WNBA has won at least one championship except the Sun. May you eat, but never taste.


Why would you wish that for the Sun? They have nothing to do with my comment. Your comment was stupid. And I don’t care if my comment was mean or whatever, it’s such a competitive league, I’ll take whatever edge I can get. Lol.


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So it's an ACL. Recovery time is what? Seem to recall Johnson on the Fever took a year to recover. Is it always that long? Kind of an odd coincidence that Angel and Sancho both got season ending ACL injury late in the season?


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SpaceJunkie wrote:
pilight wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
Don’t blame Jefferson for her injury. They happen. Tbh couldn’t happen to a ‘nicer’ person. Hope this helps my team. Gin sun!!


They happen more often when you engage in dirty play


Was she actually trying to take out a player or only trying to save a loose ball and accidentally took out a player in the process, or both?


Exactly! It wasn’t a dirty play at all. It was a player trying to get the ball, which is what your supposed to do. A dirty play is when someone punches another player in the face like Griner did in college, or the endless intentional attacks Cambage inflicts on her victims.


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pilight wrote:
SpaceJunkie wrote:
pilight wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
Don’t blame Jefferson for her injury. They happen. Tbh couldn’t happen to a ‘nicer’ person. Hope this helps my team. Gin sun!!


They happen more often when you engage in dirty play


Was she actually trying to take out a player or only trying to save a loose ball and accidentally took out a player in the process, or both?


Nobody else was down there on the floor. What does that tell you?


It’s always a ‘dirty’ play when it happens to someone on the team you like. Jeffereson doesn’t have a dirty bone in her body. She went for the lose ball, not her fault Angel got in her way. Not her fault she got hurt. Move on.


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... And I don’t care if my comment was mean or whatever, it’s such a competitive league, I’ll take whatever edge I can get. Lol.

Which is why I hope you don't get it.



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Ay Mate wrote:
pilight wrote:
SpaceJunkie wrote:
pilight wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
Don’t blame Jefferson for her injury. They happen. Tbh couldn’t happen to a ‘nicer’ person. Hope this helps my team. Gin sun!!


They happen more often when you engage in dirty play


Was she actually trying to take out a player or only trying to save a loose ball and accidentally took out a player in the process, or both?


Nobody else was down there on the floor. What does that tell you?


It’s always a ‘dirty’ play when it happens to someone on the team you like. Jeffereson doesn’t have a dirty bone in her body. She went for the lose ball, not her fault Angel got in her way. Not her fault she got hurt. Move on.


I dont think it was a dirty play and i certainly dont think that Jefferson is a dirty player. But it was a dangerous play though and this time it went badly because she landed on Angel who was standing up straight so couldnt really fall back to absorb the contact.

Players often dive for the ball and most of the time it ends well. Like in the Storm-Myystics game. Stewie was running after a ball and Atkins dove for it and took out Stewie in the process. Stewie got her legs taken from under her but fell in a good way so she wasnt hurt. The funny part was that Stewart got the foul called on her that play Laughing
It happens at the 7.50 mark in the 3rd quarter and the commentator even says yeah its a foul on Stewart because she hit Atkins with her knee. No question about it Laughing Laughing



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Silky Johnson wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
Don’t blame Jefferson for her injury. They happen. Tbh couldn’t happen to a ‘nicer’ person. Hope this helps my team. Gin sun!!

I don't know; right about now I think, it'd be pretty 'nice' if it happened to you.

At this moment, I'm hoping that when the final history is written on the WNBA, from 2018 until whenever the league ends, I hope that the record books show that every team in the WNBA has won at least one championship except the Sun. May you eat, but never taste.


Why would you wish that for the Sun? They have nothing to do with my comment. Your comment was stupid. And I don’t care if my comment was mean or whatever, it’s such a competitive league, I’ll take whatever edge I can get. Lol.


Usually, I keep my snide remarks safely inside my head online. That is because arguing with trolls is like trying to catch smoke with a butterfly net. I am forgoing that rule for this response (In all Christian love and kindness)

Really? You are calling someone's comment stupid? You are happy for a person's season ending injury and you are calling someone's comment stupid? If that was an attempt at humor, it was in very poor taste. You come on the Atlanta Dream discussion page where fans are still bummed about their star player's season ending injury and YOU take offense? I think you need to find an edge in the human race rather than trying to find an edge in the playoff race.


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Bentley providing a boost for the Dream as playoff push continues

https://highposthoops.com/2018/08/10/bentley-providing-boost-dream-playoff-push-continues/

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“It’s nice being on a team who plays for each other, honestly,” Bentley said



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PostPosted: 08/10/18 8:40 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Okay, I watched on Demand the play Angel got hurt, happen 5:33 in the 4th Qtr. of the Aces/Dream game on August 7th. It was a hustle play for the ball by Jefferson not a dirty play resulting in the injury to Angel.


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Okay, I watched on Demand the play Angel got hurt, happen 5:33 in the 4th Qtr. of the Aces/Dream game on August 7th. It was a hustle play for the ball by Jefferson not a dirty play resulting in the injury to Angel.


I recall at the time Bob and LaChina did not seem to complain much about it and it didn't even seem like Angel was that worried about it later. She was kind of laughing about it when Collen asked her what happened. That's the weird thing about injuries - some that don't look that bad end up being the worst, while the ones that look terrible are shaken off.

BTW - A player Jefferson's size probably wouldn't get away with being a dirty player for long.


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At the end with Atlanta needing a basket to seal it, Bentley (playing point guard) took a long two that missed, then on another possession took a long two that she made and then spent some time pointing dramatically to her wrist. The play-by-play announcer said that her pointing to her wrist was saying “It’s MY time!”.


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Okay, I watched on Demand the play Angel got hurt, happen 5:33 in the 4th Qtr. of the Aces/Dream game on August 7th. It was a hustle play for the ball by Jefferson not a dirty play resulting in the injury to Angel.


I recall at the time Bob and LaChina did not seem to complain much about it and it didn't even seem like Angel was that worried about it later. She was kind of laughing about it when Collen asked her what happened. That's the weird thing about injuries - some that don't look that bad end up being the worst, while the ones that look terrible are shaken off.

BTW - A player Jefferson's size probably wouldn't get away with being a dirty player for long.


I thought it looked bad injury wise at the time. The contact and Angel crying on court. Plus she couldn't limp unassisted after the game.

I wouldn't have been surprised at the new had they not first issued the "doesn't appear serious" red herring.



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Okay, I watched on Demand the play Angel got hurt, happen 5:33 in the 4th Qtr. of the Aces/Dream game on August 7th. It was a hustle play for the ball by Jefferson not a dirty play resulting in the injury to Angel.


+1 not sure why ATL fans went on a tirade against MoJeff as if it was done on purpose. She couldn't even see angel when she fell to the ground as angel was behind her.



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At the end with Atlanta needing a basket to seal it, Bentley (playing point guard) took a long two that missed, then on another possession took a long two that she made and then spent some time pointing dramatically to her wrist. The play-by-play announcer said that her pointing to her wrist was saying “It’s MY time!”.


Yeah she's quickly moving up my annoying asf player list.



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At the end with Atlanta needing a basket to seal it, Bentley (playing point guard) took a long two that missed, then on another possession took a long two that she made and then spent some time pointing dramatically to her wrist. The play-by-play announcer said that her pointing to her wrist was saying “It’s MY time!”.


I'm not a fan of Bentley's antics either



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Okay, I watched on Demand the play Angel got hurt, happen 5:33 in the 4th Qtr. of the Aces/Dream game on August 7th. It was a hustle play for the ball by Jefferson not a dirty play resulting in the injury to Angel.


+1 not sure why ATL fans went on a tirade against MoJeff as if it was done on purpose. She couldn't even see angel when she fell to the ground as angel was behind her.


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Okay, I watched on Demand the play Angel got hurt, happen 5:33 in the 4th Qtr. of the Aces/Dream game on August 7th. It was a hustle play for the ball by Jefferson not a dirty play resulting in the injury to Angel.


+1 not sure why ATL fans went on a tirade against MoJeff as if it was done on purpose.

Tirade? Did I miss the tirade, again? Man, I'm never here when the cool stuff happens...



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PostPosted: 08/10/18 11:25 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Video clip of injury here:

https://www.sbnation.com/wnba/2018/8/9/17672720/angel-mccoughtry-knee-injury-wnba-dream
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Bentley providing a boost for the Dream as playoff push continues

https://highposthoops.com/2018/08/10/bentley-providing-boost-dream-playoff-push-continues/

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“It’s nice being on a team who plays for each other, honestly,” Bentley said


Oh plz. Bentley is the biggest bull shitter ever. The Sun are all about team. She’s still sore Courtney took her starting job.


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pilight wrote:
tfan wrote:
At the end with Atlanta needing a basket to seal it, Bentley (playing point guard) took a long two that missed, then on another possession took a long two that she made and then spent some time pointing dramatically to her wrist. The play-by-play announcer said that her pointing to her wrist was saying “It’s MY time!”.


I'm not a fan of Bentley's antics either


yeah I saw that too. No, just no please don't Alex.


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I forget exactly what it was, but one of the commentators quoted Clarendon throwing something pretty similar back the other way. Nice to be on a team where you always knew what the plan was, or something like that.

It's all pretty standard stuff whan you get shipped to a new team.



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BamaEd wrote:
pilight wrote:
tfan wrote:
At the end with Atlanta needing a basket to seal it, Bentley (playing point guard) took a long two that missed, then on another possession took a long two that she made and then spent some time pointing dramatically to her wrist. The play-by-play announcer said that her pointing to her wrist was saying “It’s MY time!”.


I'm not a fan of Bentley's antics either


yeah I saw that too. No, just no please don't Alex.


So you would happier if her shots didn't go in and we lost, but at least she didn't antic?

Lots of players have antics mainly about officiating. Some complain about every call, or no call, some smirk whenever there is a call they don't like ("Watch Me Smirk"), some give the "who me" look when they are called, some try to help the refs make calls (LeBron is the worst for that - he is like the 4th official, Parker is like that too.)

I'd be happier if all the players would shut up and play basketball, but I don't see getting down on the player that helped us win the game.


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Randy wrote:
BamaEd wrote:
pilight wrote:
tfan wrote:
At the end with Atlanta needing a basket to seal it, Bentley (playing point guard) took a long two that missed, then on another possession took a long two that she made and then spent some time pointing dramatically to her wrist. The play-by-play announcer said that her pointing to her wrist was saying “It’s MY time!”.


I'm not a fan of Bentley's antics either


yeah I saw that too. No, just no please don't Alex.


So you would happier if her shots didn't go in and we lost, but at least she didn't antic?


No, as long as she plays like she did yesterday I'll live with it



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Randy wrote:
BamaEd wrote:
pilight wrote:
tfan wrote:
At the end with Atlanta needing a basket to seal it, Bentley (playing point guard) took a long two that missed, then on another possession took a long two that she made and then spent some time pointing dramatically to her wrist. The play-by-play announcer said that her pointing to her wrist was saying “It’s MY time!”.


I'm not a fan of Bentley's antics either


yeah I saw that too. No, just no please don't Alex.


So you would happier if her shots didn't go in and we lost, but at least she didn't antic?

Lots of players have antics mainly about officiating. Some complain about every call, or no call, some smirk whenever there is a call they don't like ("Watch Me Smirk"), some give the "who me" look when they are called, some try to help the refs make calls (LeBron is the worst for that - he is like the 4th official, Parker is like that too.)

I'd be happier if all the players would shut up and play basketball, but I don't see getting down on the player that helped us win the game.


oh some antics are fine. I just didn't like the watch thing haha


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The commentator may have said it was her time, but maybe Bentley meant it was ATL’s time. Would that make people feel better?



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Dream Sign Adaora Elonu to Seven-Day Contract

http://dream.wnba.com/news/atlanta-dream-sign-adaora-elonu-to-seven-day-contract/



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Crying or Very sad Well it's too late to tank so we might as well go an try to win out. BTW - is it too late in the season to get an injury hardship replacement? Dantas has been out for weeks, so she may not be back either.


Well, see above, I guess the answer is yes


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Up to a certain point, I think you have to let players find the emotional level they need to succeed and let them run with it. Some players discover they play best when they don't say a word and focus. Others talk and talk and the reaction feeds their fire.

There's a point at which either can hurt a team, and the coach has to a) realize when that point is reached and b) be able to lead well enough to have the player adjust.



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The reason I mentioned the “It’ MY time” is because Bentley had just said “It’s nice being on a team that plays for each other.” It’s one thing to strut and pose or “mean mug” after a big shot, but “It’s MY time” seems like it is putting a lot of emphasis on the individual on more than just the shot - taking over, so to speak. But Bentley had hit a 3 just a little earlier, so she was probably reacting to both shots.


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The most pressing question for 2019 continues to be that of our home arena. Dream ownership and senior management have conducted multiple meetings with both the Atlanta Hawks/Philips Arena leaderhip and other entities whose greatest desire - like ours - is to return to our professional home arena next year. We must cross a few hurdles, but we are cautiously optimistic that the Hawks/Philips ownership will work with us to make that a reality.



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Got my season ticket renewal package today

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The most pressing question for 2019 continues to be that of our home arena. Dream ownership and senior management have conducted multiple meetings with both the Atlanta Hawks/Philips Arena leaderhip and other entities whose greatest desire - like ours - is to return to our professional home arena next year. We must cross a few hurdles, but we are cautiously optimistic that the Hawks/Philips ownership will work with us to make that a reality.


Here I thought it was a given they'd return to Phillips. Them staying at McCamish permanently would kill the Dream.



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Up to a certain point, I think you have to let players find the emotional level they need to succeed and let them run with it. Some players discover they play best when they don't say a word and focus. Others talk and talk and the reaction feeds their fire.

There's a point at which either can hurt a team, and the coach has to a) realize when that point is reached and b) be able to lead well enough to have the player adjust.


She shoots 38,6 % from the field and 28,7 % from behind the arc. Maybe it shouldnt be her time Rolling Eyes



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Got my season ticket renewal package today

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The most pressing question for 2019 continues to be that of our home arena. Dream ownership and senior management have conducted multiple meetings with both the Atlanta Hawks/Philips Arena leaderhip and other entities whose greatest desire - like ours - is to return to our professional home arena next year. We must cross a few hurdles, but we are cautiously optimistic that the Hawks/Philips ownership will work with us to make that a reality.


Here I thought it was a given they'd return to Phillips. Them staying at McCamish permanently would kill the Dream.


I agree unless a lot things change at McCamish, which seems quite unlikely. There was a post from Bob's Scouting Report (I think) saying GTech stuck it to the Dream when it came to the arena rental fees.

I got the impression from my account exec quite some time ago that there was no question about returning to Phillips. This could all be posturing on the Hawks/Phillips part. One issue (and I don't know how applicable it is) but there was recently an article in the local press stating that Hawks where hiring 900 additional people for Phillips because they need a lot more people for the new setup. I can't imagine the Dream would need that many more people but there may be some issues with how the arena is set up, which makes it more difficult to scale down.

There is also a new arena being built by the airport. I could see some games ending up there in the event of schedule conflicts. Small but not by Mystics/Liberty standards.

https://www.ajc.com/news/local-govt--politics/construction-starts-college-park-arena-for-hawks-development-team/Un4jcTnqRTMO92IRczr05L/


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I was actually wondering if the Dream might move there down the road. Didn't realize the capacity was only 3,500. To have three teams playing in arenas with 4,200-2,500 seats makes the WNBA look very minor league-ish.



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Dream Sign Adaora Elonu to Seven-Day Contract

http://dream.wnba.com/news/atlanta-dream-sign-adaora-elonu-to-seven-day-contract/


Kind of pointless, IMO, since Alexis Prince never plays but I guess it's just insurance. Any word how long Dantas is supposed to be out?



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PostPosted: 08/10/18 5:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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pilight wrote:
Dream Sign Adaora Elonu to Seven-Day Contract

http://dream.wnba.com/news/atlanta-dream-sign-adaora-elonu-to-seven-day-contract/


Kind of pointless, IMO, since Alexis Prince never plays but I guess it's just insurance. Any word how long Dantas is supposed to be out?


No word. A seven day contract is almost to the end of the season, so apparently she is not expected back before then. I don't know much about Elonu or Prince for that matter.


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I was actually wondering if the Dream might move there down the road. Didn't realize the capacity was only 3,500. To have three teams playing in arenas with 4,200-2,500 seats makes the WNBA look very minor league-ish.


On TV it should look better. They rarely pan out to show the entire place. Although Westchester isn’t built as an arena and does look minor league due to the County Center layout.


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PostPosted: 08/17/18 6:58 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Dantas done

http://dream.wnba.com/news/damiris-dantas-has-season-ending-surgery/

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Dantas, a third-year player from Brazil, will miss the remainder of the regular season and the entire postseason.



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I wonder if she will be back next year. She will be an RFA so its seems quite possible some team may want her more than the Dream do thanks to the rise of Billings.


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Randy wrote:
I wonder if she will be back next year. She will be an RFA so its seems quite possible some team may want her more than the Dream do thanks to the rise of Billings.


Dantas seemed to spend too much time this season away from the rim on offense. Stepping out every now and again is effective to keep the defense honest, but don't make a living there. Someone has to get in the paint right? It will be interesting to see what happens in the off-season with her. I think the winning streak start after her injury, correct?


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BamaEd wrote:
Randy wrote:
I wonder if she will be back next year. She will be an RFA so its seems quite possible some team may want her more than the Dream do thanks to the rise of Billings.


Dantas seemed to spend too much time this season away from the rim on offense. Stepping out every now and again is effective to keep the defense honest, but don't make a living there. Someone has to get in the paint right? It will be interesting to see what happens in the off-season with her. I think the winning streak start after her injury, correct?


Didn't she first get Injured early - maybe camp early... Took a minute to look good... Looked good for a minute then didn't... Then was out.

I wonder if she wasn't hampered most of this season?

Too bad. She brought a different look and some toughness. Would have been nice to have healthy (with her shot) down the stretch.



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