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| Zellous is out(right ankle) & Prince is doubtful(eye).
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| Posted: 07/20/18 9:49 pm ::: |
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| Any word on Z’s injury? I mean, any specifics? I want to see Nurse play badly but I hate that it’s coming at the expense of injuries. I wonder if knowing they’re guaranteed minutes will help Sugar and Nurse though. Sugar played better as a starter last year.
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| Posted: 07/21/18 1:45 pm ::: |
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| Z/Piph not in uniform.
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| Posted: 07/21/18 1:49 pm ::: |
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| Coleman starting with Rodgers. Totally lost as to what Coleman has done to warrant starting over Nurse. This isn’t 2010 anymore. So sick of this.
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| Posted: 07/21/18 2:00 pm ::: |
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| Piph actually on bench in warmups. Has not participated in warming up though. Z is on crutches.
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| Posted: 07/21/18 2:10 pm ::: |
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| Coleman starting with Rodgers. Totally lost as to what Coleman has done to warrant starting over Nurse. This isn’t 2010 anymore. So sick of this. |
Yes. So bizarre.
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| Posted: 07/21/18 2:15 pm ::: |
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| Coleman starting with Rodgers. Totally lost as to what Coleman has done to warrant starting over Nurse. This isn’t 2010 anymore. So sick of this. |
Yes. So bizarre. |
Two things:
1. Katie Smith is in way over her head.
2. I feel bad for the Libs. This "home court" is a joke.
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| Posted: 07/21/18 2:17 pm ::: |
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| Our team defense is so bad. Toliver should not be able to look around that long to make that pass.
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| Posted: 07/21/18 2:17 pm ::: |
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| Coleman starting with Rodgers. Totally lost as to what Coleman has done to warrant starting over Nurse. This isn’t 2010 anymore. So sick of this. |
I'm totally lost as to what Sugar has done to warrant starting over Nurse, because I do not see Nurse as a small forward in the WNBA. She looks like a shooting guard to me.
Normally I'd agree 100% about wanting to see more Nurse with the season over for all intents and purposes. Not that I'm sure that Katie would have started her anyway, but I think this has a lot to do with the offensive foul Kia committed against Angel McCoughtry last game. At first, I thought it was a bad call--Kia was blowing by Angel; why would she foul? I went back and watched it several times, and the first few times, I thought it was on Angel, because she was running to cut Kia off before Kia was completely behind her. However, looking closely, Kia for some reason leaned into Angel. At first, I thought that Nurse was simply bracing herself for contact, but each time I watched it, it seemed more and more like she interrupted her breakaway to turn into and deliver a blow to Angel.
I don't think Nurse saw another minute after the play. I am certain Katie was trying to send a message there, and I'm also fairly certain that, even if Katie was considering starting Nurse after the injuries, there's no way she would reward Kia with a start the game immediately following.
Hopefully Kia will get lots of minutes this afternoon even though she didn't start.
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| Posted: 07/21/18 2:19 pm ::: |
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| Atkins' 1st quarters are insanely good
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| Posted: 07/21/18 2:23 pm ::: |
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| EDD is hot right now!
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| Posted: 07/21/18 2:26 pm ::: |
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| TRP and Thomas first off the bench... c'mon Mike
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| Posted: 07/21/18 2:34 pm ::: |
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| Dayuuum, Zahui!
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| Posted: 07/21/18 2:38 pm ::: |
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| Some really bad shooting by Washington at the start of the 2nd period.
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| Posted: 07/21/18 3:03 pm ::: |
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| Coleman starting with Rodgers. Totally lost as to what Coleman has done to warrant starting over Nurse. This isn’t 2010 anymore. So sick of this. |
I'm totally lost as to what Sugar has done to warrant starting over Nurse, because I do not see Nurse as a small forward in the WNBA. She looks like a shooting guard to me.
Normally I'd agree 100% about wanting to see more Nurse with the season over for all intents and purposes. Not that I'm sure that Katie would have started her anyway, but I think this has a lot to do with the offensive foul Kia committed against Angel McCoughtry last game. At first, I thought it was a bad call--Kia was blowing by Angel; why would she foul? I went back and watched it several times, and the first few times, I thought it was on Angel, because she was running to cut Kia off before Kia was completely behind her. However, looking closely, Kia for some reason leaned into Angel. At first, I thought that Nurse was simply bracing herself for contact, but each time I watched it, it seemed more and more like she interrupted her breakaway to turn into and deliver a blow to Angel.
I don't think Nurse saw another minute after the play. I am certain Katie was trying to send a message there, and I'm also fairly certain that, even if Katie was considering starting Nurse after the injuries, there's no way she would reward Kia with a start the game immediately following.
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It was her fifth foul in the third quarter. She was trying to draw a foul in a chippy game, nothing more. Anyone would have sat after that. No point in playing her once the game was out of reach. She’s 6’0” with a long wingspan. A little thin but people bounce off her. She’s strong enough to play the position. Coleman adds nothing. She’s a terrible defender who can’t create her own shot. If she’s not making 3s, which she hasn’t been, there’s no reason for her to be out there. Sugar can even guard Currie or TRP better than Coleman can.
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| Posted: 07/21/18 3:04 pm ::: |
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| Coleman was decent the first few games, but now she's just a waste on our roster. Why not give Allen some playing time instead?
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| Posted: 07/21/18 3:21 pm ::: |
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| It was her fifth foul in the third quarter. |
I did not realize that. If that's the case, then I doubt the play had anything to do with Nurse's starting role today.
There were too many Liberty turnovers in the open court in the first half, but I thought the half court offense was running quite well and was producing good opportunities. Defensively, there have been some very good possessions and some very bad possessions.
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| Posted: 07/21/18 3:30 pm ::: |
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| Hartley's middle name is now "almost"
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| Posted: 07/21/18 3:32 pm ::: |
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| Whatever you’re seeing on TV, it’s ten times worse in the building.
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| Posted: 07/21/18 3:42 pm ::: |
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| Nurse heating up. It might be time for Smith to pull her.
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| Posted: 07/21/18 4:02 pm ::: |
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| In today's game, Marissa Coleman played more minutes than Kia Nurse. Can't wait to hear Katie Smith's defenders explain why. Will Coleman lead the Liberty to a 10-game winning streak and a playoff spot? Will Coleman be on the team next season? This is absurd.
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| Posted: 07/21/18 4:12 pm ::: |
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And this is my breaking point. We know they’re a bad team. We know teams shoot over our players for fun while our players stand there for fear of jumping and fouling. We know teams torch us from outside. We know this season is over as far as a playoff spot is concerned.
Marissa Coleman is not a WNBA starter. Kia Nurse is. Nurse is the future. Coleman is past her prime. If we can’t at least experience the future while also giving the best chance to win right now, then I’m emotionally checked out for the season. What’s the point?
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| Posted: 07/21/18 4:17 pm ::: |
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| Another loss decided before the 4th quarter even began. The Liberty are not giving their fans a single reason to watch them.
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| Posted: 07/21/18 4:30 pm ::: |
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| If we can’t at least experience the future while also giving the best chance to win right now, then I’m emotionally checked out for the season. What’s the point? |
Yeah, that's part of what I meant by the team giving its fans no reason to watch them. It is long past time to get the younger players in for some serious playing time. I think I've been as reluctant to throw in the towel as anyone, but now even if the Liberty go undefeated there's a chance they won't make the playoffs anyway.
I am never in favor of tanking, and I know that doing so will most likely have no effect on the 2019 draft. However, with the way this team is going, losing now may well improve their chances in the 2020 draft. There really isn't any justification for not allowing the young players to develop at this point.
By the way, I love the 2 year rule the WNBA uses to prevent tanking. It's not perfect, but I think it makes things a whole lot better. Other professional sports leagues should take notice.
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