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Who will win this game?
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PostPosted: 07/08/18 4:38 pm    ::: Aces @ Sky - 7/10/18 Reply Reply with quote
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PostPosted: 07/10/18 8:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Someone besides Diamond needs to hit a shot....DD:5-10 fg...Rest of team:5-19 fg

Dolson really let herself go...Improving her conditioning should be Dolson's #1 priority this upcoming offseason.

Young having a great 1st half against her former team.

Dolson's taken 13 Free throws in 13 games.
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PostPosted: 07/10/18 8:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
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Someone besides Diamond needs to hit a shot....DD:5-10 fg...Rest of team:5-19 fg

Dolson really let herself go...Improving her conditioning should be Dolson's #1 priority this upcoming offseason.

Young having a great 1st half against her former team.

Dolson's taken 13 Free throws in 13 games.


I haven't seen many Sky games, but isn't Dolson spending most of her offensive time on the perimeter?
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I haven't seen many Sky games, but isn't Dolson spending most of her offensive time on the perimeter?


Yes...However...1 FT per game is a 50% decline from last season. Laughing
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PostPosted: 07/10/18 8:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
DeShields is becoming the best player on this sky team slowly but surely. Best defender hands down and the only player to create her own shot from what ive seen so far this season.



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PostPosted: 07/10/18 9:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
The Sky are losing by 26 points after 3 quarters because they are playing a real, legitimate WNBA team, and not the Lynx. 😂
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Some people win
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Some always cryin the blues, yeah.



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PostPosted: 07/10/18 9:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Harper is pretty much a zero for the Sky.



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PostPosted: 07/10/18 9:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Chicago is looking like the only lottery team in this game. Williams came in and led them in getting it to within 8, and then it just quickly went over 20 points difference.

Wilson can always bail the Aces out. Either lower the shoulder and drive and at a minimum get fouled, or get off a clean jump shot with a defender right on her.




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PostPosted: 07/10/18 9:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Vegas shooting for a playoff spot! Aja MVP consideration getting greater and greater.



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PostPosted: 07/10/18 9:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
tfan wrote:
Chicago is looking like the only lottery team in this game. Williams came in and led them in getting it to within 8, and then it just quickly went over 20 points difference.

Wilson can always bail the Aces out. Either lower the shoulder and drive and at a minimum get fouled, or get off a clean jump shot with a defender right on her.


Actually, I don't think LV is playing all that well. Very sloppy. And while I agree about Wilson's play, don't forget McBride. She's as valuable to the team as Wilson.
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PostPosted: 07/10/18 9:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
The Aces surge began when Evil Bill inserted Plum in the starting lineup. For all the Lindsay Allen "pure point guard" love, the team is 1-5 when she starts.



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PostPosted: 07/10/18 9:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
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The Aces surge began when Evil Bill inserted Plum in the starting lineup. For all the Lindsay Allen "pure point guard" love, the team is 1-5 when she starts.


But how many of the starts came without McBride, Plum & Jefferson available?



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The Aces surge began when Evil Bill inserted Plum in the starting lineup. For all the Lindsay Allen "pure point guard" love, the team is 1-5 when she starts.


But how many of the starts came without McBride, Plum & Jefferson available?


Jefferson didn't play any of them, of course. If she'd been healthy Allen would not have been starting. Plum and McBride played in four of the six games, including the lone win.



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PostPosted: 07/11/18 12:20 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
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zune69 wrote:
Someone besides Diamond needs to hit a shot....DD:5-10 fg...Rest of team:5-19 fg

Dolson really let herself go...Improving her conditioning should be Dolson's #1 priority this upcoming offseason.

Young having a great 1st half against her former team.

Dolson's taken 13 Free throws in 13 games.


I haven't seen many Sky games, but isn't Dolson spending most of her offensive time on the perimeter?


Yes
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Tough five game stretch for the Aces coming up that may determine if they get into the play-offs: @ Lynx, vs. Sparks, @ Mercury, vs. Fever, vs. Mercury. If they can possibly go 3-2, they'll stand a chance.



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PostPosted: 07/11/18 11:40 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Not a fan of the Sky coach, she doesn’t seem to know what direction to push the team in, Parker is good but she’s more of a bench team.
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#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
Not a fan of the Sky coach, she doesn’t seem to know what direction to push the team in, Parker is good but she’s more of a bench team.


Drafting Gabby > Stevens was just a boneheaded move.
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#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
Not a fan of the Sky coach, she doesn’t seem to know what direction to push the team in, Parker is good but she’s more of a bench team.


Drafting Gabby > Stevens was just a boneheaded move.


The dumbest move of the Draft . But she made me the happiest fan in the country when she did ! Laughing



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#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
Not a fan of the Sky coach, she doesn’t seem to know what direction to push the team in, Parker is good but she’s more of a bench team.


Drafting Gabby > Stevens was just a boneheaded move.


I, as a Sky fan, am happy and appreciative that the Sky drafted Gabby Williams. Very Happy
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Why dump on Stocks when Stevens shouldn't have even been available to her?



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PostPosted: 07/11/18 1:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
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zune69 wrote:
#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
Not a fan of the Sky coach, she doesn’t seem to know what direction to push the team in, Parker is good but she’s more of a bench team.


Drafting Gabby > Stevens was just a boneheaded move.


I, as a Sky fan, am happy and appreciative that the Sky drafted Gabby Williams. Very Happy


Hoping to catch a big fish in the lottery Laughing....Well,Chicago could use a Center.
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Hoping to catch a big fish in the lottery Laughing....Well,Chicago could use a Center.


What do you call Dolson and Coates?



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Why dump on Stocks when Stevens shouldn't have even been available to her?


But she was .....so why not dump on stocks ?



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mavcarter wrote:
zune69 wrote:
#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
Not a fan of the Sky coach, she doesn’t seem to know what direction to push the team in, Parker is good but she’s more of a bench team.


Drafting Gabby > Stevens was just a boneheaded move.


I, as a Sky fan, am happy and appreciative that the Sky drafted Gabby Williams. Very Happy


Hoping to catch a big fish in the lottery Laughing....Well,Chicago could use a Center.


Very Happy

But on a serious note, Williams isn't a bad player. She's tied for first in total steals with Alana Beard, and I know people don't like this stat but she's first in steal percentage as well. Obviously, she isn't being used properly and will have to improve in certain areas of the game (jump shot), but it's not like she's totally useless, IMO, like a certain poster on this board who has been screaming that Williams sucks for a while to the point it's becoming a fascination. I want to see what she can do going forward.

I like Stevens, and obviously she's more pro ready, but I'm not losing sleep yet, especially in their rookie seasons.

And Shades does bring up an interesting question, why isn't Pokey catching heat for also passing on Stevens? Hughes I understand because he traded for Howard, is it that people think Mitchell will be just as good, if not better than Stevens?
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While Z can play the 4, she wants to be Kevin Durant, maybe The Sky coach sees the same thing I see, and that’s Z being more of a Bonner type player then Stewart, not sure she would have been the answer for the Sky. Gabby is a fine player and plays her role, she need to work on her ball handling this offseason if she can transition to more of a guard/wing, I would mind seeing her play next to Maya some day down the line after Augustus hangs them up.
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I would mind seeing her play next to Maya some day down the line after Augustus hangs them up.


Hopefully (if this season is more than a head fake) Zandalasini wants to keep coming back after Augustus retires. That may not be for a while. Older players aren't retiring..... Currie and Cappie from the same draft class aren't retiring. Would Augustus accept a role off the bench with the Lynx?



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zune69 wrote:
mavcarter wrote:
zune69 wrote:
#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
Not a fan of the Sky coach, she doesn’t seem to know what direction to push the team in, Parker is good but she’s more of a bench team.


Drafting Gabby > Stevens was just a boneheaded move.


I, as a Sky fan, am happy and appreciative that the Sky drafted Gabby Williams. Very Happy


Hoping to catch a big fish in the lottery Laughing....Well,Chicago could use a Center.


Very Happy

But on a serious note, Williams isn't a bad player. She's tied for first in total steals with Alana Beard, and I know people don't like this stat but she's first in steal percentage as well. Obviously, she isn't being used properly and will have to improve in certain areas of the game (jump shot), but it's not like she's totally useless, IMO, like a certain poster on this board who has been screaming that Williams sucks for a while to the point it's becoming a fascination. I want to see what she can do going forward.

I like Stevens, and obviously she's more pro ready, but I'm not losing sleep yet, especially in their rookie seasons.

And Shades does bring up an interesting question, why isn't Pokey catching heat for also passing on Stevens? Hughes I understand because he traded for Howard, is it that people think Mitchell will be just as good, if not better than Stevens?


Yeah no one thinks she sucks but not being used properly ? Where would you use her ? Mitchell has produced this season as a #2 pick . #4 has not , and #5 has . Thus the reason it seems like a bonehead move , you should be fascinated by that right ?



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Yeah no one thinks she sucks but not being used properly ? Where would you use her ?


I would use her at the 4, just as a backup playing 15-20 MPG, not as a starter trying to guard All Star PFs. Hopefully one day she can improve the ball handling and shooting to be a SF.

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Mitchell has produced this season as a #2 pick .


Yes, tearing up the league with that 35.6FG% and with 7 more assists than turnovers. Great production.

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#4 has not , and #5 has .


I like Canada, but to make a claim that she's producing at an overwhelming amount compared to Williams is a little excessive, IMO.

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Thus the reason it seems like a bonehead move , you should be fascinated by that right ?


Why would I be fascinated? The Sky suck and I knew that before the season. Stevens isn't putting up MVP type numbers and not even close to being ROY for me come on a message board and call Stocks and idiot, or go on and on and on and on how Williams sucks or "my team dodged that bullet". Laughing
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mavcarter wrote:
zune69 wrote:
mavcarter wrote:
zune69 wrote:
#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
Not a fan of the Sky coach, she doesn’t seem to know what direction to push the team in, Parker is good but she’s more of a bench team.


Drafting Gabby > Stevens was just a boneheaded move.


I, as a Sky fan, am happy and appreciative that the Sky drafted Gabby Williams. Very Happy


Hoping to catch a big fish in the lottery Laughing....Well,Chicago could use a Center.


Very Happy

But on a serious note, Williams isn't a bad player. She's tied for first in total steals with Alana Beard, and I know people don't like this stat but she's first in steal percentage as well. Obviously, she isn't being used properly and will have to improve in certain areas of the game (jump shot), but it's not like she's totally useless, IMO, like a certain poster on this board who has been screaming that Williams sucks for a while to the point it's becoming a fascination. I want to see what she can do going forward.

I like Stevens, and obviously she's more pro ready, but I'm not losing sleep yet, especially in their rookie seasons.

And Shades does bring up an interesting question, why isn't Pokey catching heat for also passing on Stevens? Hughes I understand because he traded for Howard, is it that people think Mitchell will be just as good, if not better than Stevens?


Yeah no one thinks she sucks but not being used properly ? Where would you use her ? Mitchell has produced this season as a #2 pick . #4 has not , and #5 has . Thus the reason it seems like a bonehead move , you should be fascinated by that right ?


I agree with WNBA 09.....Mitchell is producing at a high level for a rookie.So Pokey gets a pass.The reason why there's so much backlash against Chicago for drafting Gabby is because they needed a PF...Sure,Stevens likes to play away from the basket,but she's still capable of scoring in the post.Gabby has no post up game.But more importantly.Stevens has the potential to be an elite level defender at the PF postion.Gabby on the other hand is a defensive liability at PF.Stevens would've made Chicago a more balanced team on both ends of the court...That being said,I believe Gabby will be a huge asset coming off the bench for Chicago.

Last 2 gms off the bench for Gabby:9.5p/3r/2a/2s/1b/53% fg in 18 mpg.

Moving Gabby to the bench is already paying off.
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I agree with WNBA 09


Of course, you two have been the main culprits. Laughing

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I agree with WNBA 09.....Mitchell is producing at a high level for a rookie.So Pokey gets a pass.


LOL.

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The reason why there's so much backlash against Chicago for drafting Gabby is because they needed a PF


Absolutely, the level of continuing to point it out has been at an elite level, you would think Stevens is putting up 20 and 10 down there in Dallas. I like Stevens though, for what its worth.

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...That being said,I believe Gabby will be a huge asset coming off the bench for Chicago.


I hope so. Hopefully Stocks is done with the starting experiment. Laughing
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Of course, you two have been the main culprits. Laughing .


Nah,I've never been a Gabby detractor...Just very vocal at the idea of her being a starting PF,or Being better than Diamond DeShields.

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LOL. .


First 11 gms Mitchell avg 17.5 ppg....I think KM has hit the rookie wall.
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Stevens has had to prove herself from the bench on a fairly stacked team. Mitchell hasn't needed to do that. Pokey basically set Mitchell out to do the same as she did in college.



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First 11 gms Mitchell avg 17.5 ppg....I think KM has hit the rookie wall.


So you’re pretty much saying she only played at a high level for the first 11 games? I thought you were referencing the whole body of work.
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First 11 gms Mitchell avg 17.5 ppg....I think KM has hit the rookie wall.


So you’re pretty much saying she only played at a high level for the first 11 games? I thought you were referencing the whole body of work.


So mav, Shes not being used properly ? She's being used as a 4 but shouldn't be used as a starting 4 ? So basically you dont believe she's good enough to start in this league to which kind of proves the point i made about her not being Lottery talent. Laughing Laughing

To my earlier post i meant to say #6 has produced i forget Canada was #5 . #6 has produced playing PF and still is also not being used properly Laughing "See Drop Dead" . How long before you stop blaming the coach and look at the player's skill set ?

Im not a culprate BTW , i just live in reality where i can SEE a good player and also SEE a player who needs alot of work. All the talk of how Gabby was better than Diamond during the offseason and i stood firm with my beliefs and now theyre playing out as expected . Just dont see those posters who had that outrageous thought saying anything anymore of course So its fun to rub it in i guess. Nothing personal though i love Gabby the person , but would i want her on my Team or Nahhhhhhh Embarassed Arrow Arrow Arrow Arrow



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