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Libra_Girl
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| CP should be in mvp conversation. |
Sparks did pretty well without her with Nneka and Gray leading the way. IMO too early for her to be in the top 10 |
Nneka & Gray were putting up mvp numbers when she wasnt playing you're right but she been doing the same recently & been playing better than them.
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| Posted: 06/17/18 10:40 am ::: |
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| Libra_Girl wrote: |
| CP should be in mvp conversation. |
Sparks did pretty well without her with Nneka and Gray leading the way. IMO too early for her to be in the top 10 |
She's not even the MVP on her own team. She's third right now behind Gray and Ogwumike.
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| Posted: 06/17/18 12:12 pm ::: |
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| CP should be in mvp conversation. |
Sparks did pretty well without her with Nneka and Gray leading the way. IMO too early for her to be in the top 10 |
She's not even the MVP on her own team. She's third right now behind Gray and Ogwumike. |
Shes the MVP of her team that will never change.
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| Posted: 06/17/18 3:45 pm ::: |
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| But she isnt a MVP candidate (top 10) yet at this point
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| Posted: 06/17/18 4:34 pm ::: |
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| But she isnt a MVP candidate (top 10) yet at this point |
She may be after tonight.
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| Posted: 06/17/18 6:39 pm ::: |
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| But she isnt a MVP candidate (top 10) yet at this point |
After tonight i expect her to.be in.the.top 10 for sure
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| Posted: 06/18/18 4:59 am ::: |
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| But she isnt a MVP candidate (top 10) yet at this point |
After tonight i expect her to.be in.the.top 10 for sure |
And who are you going to drop for her? Was she better then Nneka or Gray in this game?
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| Posted: 06/18/18 9:16 am ::: |
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| But she isnt a MVP candidate (top 10) yet at this point |
After tonight i expect her to.be in.the.top 10 for sure |
And who are you going to drop for her? Was she better then Nneka or Gray in this game? |
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| Posted: 06/18/18 9:37 am ::: |
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My top 10:
1. Cambage
2. Stewart
3. N. Ogwumike
4. Diggins-Smith
5. Griner
6. Taurasi
7. Loyd
8. C. Gray
9. Charles
10. Fowles
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Hard to put Diggins and Cambage both in the top 5 when Dallas only has a 5-4 record....Both are top 10,but not the top 5.
Also,If we're going to put Parker on the list.Then an argument can be made for D.Bonner:
Parker-16.6p/6.7r/3.7a/1.0b/,8s/3.4t/54%/50%/85%
Bonner-15.6p/6.2r/3.5a/.7b/1.2s/2.2t/46%/27%/87%
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| Posted: 06/18/18 10:37 am ::: |
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| I feel without Diggins or Cambage in Dallas, they'd be 3-6 or 2-7. It's quite possible to have wto MVP candidates carry their team through a season.
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| Posted: 06/18/18 10:47 am ::: |
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| I think there really ought to be two MVP awards, one to a guard and one to a post. Now it's like comparing apples to oranges.
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| Posted: 06/18/18 11:13 am ::: |
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Hard to put Diggins and Cambage both in the top 5 when Dallas only has a 5-4 record....Both are top 10,but not the top 5.
Also,If we're going to put Parker on the list.Then an argument can be made for D.Bonner:
Parker-16.6p/6.7r/3.7a/1.0b/,8s/3.4t/54%/50%/85%
Bonner-15.6p/6.2r/3.5a/.7b/1.2s/2.2t/46%/27%/87% |
Agreed
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| Posted: 06/18/18 11:57 am ::: |
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| Michelle89 wrote: |
| But she isnt a MVP candidate (top 10) yet at this point |
After tonight i expect her to.be in.the.top 10 for sure |
And who are you going to drop for her? Was she better then Nneka or Gray in this game? |
I did not expect CP3 to develop issues with her knees/legs/feet last night, although she certainly started out like a house on fire. Everyone is still adjusting to her return, and, although they dipped in play quality at times last night, they played the best as a team over the last few games.
I am not all that crazy about this MVP watch thread, but since I 'opened my big yap' about CP3 earlier, I felt I needed to address this a bit.
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| Posted: 06/19/18 12:34 pm ::: |
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According to W.Com sylvia's MVP contention has been hurt not only by the Lynx slew of losses but also her Turnovers per game have been the highest of any player. If this is a measuring stick then Stewie needs to be disqualified as well .
Total Turnovers
Sylvia Fowles 38
Kristi Toliver 35
Breanna Stewart 32
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| Posted: 06/19/18 5:29 pm ::: |
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According to W.Com sylvia's MVP contention has been hurt not only by the Lynx slew of losses but also her Turnovers per game have been the highest of any player. If this is a measuring stick then Stewie needs to be disqualified as well .
Total Turnovers
Sylvia Fowles 38
Kristi Toliver 35
Breanna Stewart 32 |
Sylvia Fowles has played in 10 games and averages 3.8 turnovers per game, Breanna Stewart has played in 11 games and averages 2.9 turnovers per game. Not seeing the correlation and why turnovers should affect Breanna the same way it is affecting Sylvia.
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| Posted: 06/19/18 6:11 pm ::: |
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According to W.Com sylvia's MVP contention has been hurt not only by the Lynx slew of losses but also her Turnovers per game have been the highest of any player. If this is a measuring stick then Stewie needs to be disqualified as well .
Total Turnovers
Sylvia Fowles 38
Kristi Toliver 35
Breanna Stewart 32 |
Sylvia Fowles has played in 10 games and averages 3.8 turnovers per game, Breanna Stewart has played in 11 games and averages 2.9 turnovers per game. Not seeing the correlation and why turnovers should affect Breanna the same way it is affecting Sylvia. |
Why would it not ? 1 game makes a big difference ? Both are hurting their team with turnovers so if fowles is being held accountable for hers Same should be done too stewie .
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| Posted: 06/20/18 3:34 am ::: |
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According to W.Com sylvia's MVP contention has been hurt not only by the Lynx slew of losses but also her Turnovers per game have been the highest of any player. If this is a measuring stick then Stewie needs to be disqualified as well .
Total Turnovers
Sylvia Fowles 38
Kristi Toliver 35
Breanna Stewart 32 |
Sylvia Fowles has played in 10 games and averages 3.8 turnovers per game, Breanna Stewart has played in 11 games and averages 2.9 turnovers per game. Not seeing the correlation and why turnovers should affect Breanna the same way it is affecting Sylvia. |
Why would it not ? 1 game makes a big difference ? Both are hurting their team with turnovers so if fowles is being held accountable for hers Same should be done too stewie . |
Compare their stats and teamrecord and then you know why Fowles is not an MVP candidate and Stewart is..
p.s Probably half of Stewie's turnovers are offensive fouls. She needs to adjust her game a lil bit to provent most of those.
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| Posted: 06/20/18 10:54 am ::: |
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| Michelle89 wrote: |
| WNBA 09 wrote: |
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According to W.Com sylvia's MVP contention has been hurt not only by the Lynx slew of losses but also her Turnovers per game have been the highest of any player. If this is a measuring stick then Stewie needs to be disqualified as well .
Total Turnovers
Sylvia Fowles 38
Kristi Toliver 35
Breanna Stewart 32 |
Sylvia Fowles has played in 10 games and averages 3.8 turnovers per game, Breanna Stewart has played in 11 games and averages 2.9 turnovers per game. Not seeing the correlation and why turnovers should affect Breanna the same way it is affecting Sylvia. |
Why would it not ? 1 game makes a big difference ? Both are hurting their team with turnovers so if fowles is being held accountable for hers Same should be done too stewie . |
Compare their stats and teamrecord and then you know why Fowles is not an MVP candidate and Stewart is..
p.s Probably half of Stewie's turnovers are offensive fouls. She needs to adjust her game a lil bit to provent most of those. |
Comparing the team record would be your only fighting argument . Stat wise theres not much difference. Stewie averages a few more PPG while fowles average more Rebs per game .
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| Posted: 06/20/18 11:01 am ::: |
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| Michelle89 wrote: |
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According to W.Com sylvia's MVP contention has been hurt not only by the Lynx slew of losses but also her Turnovers per game have been the highest of any player. If this is a measuring stick then Stewie needs to be disqualified as well .
Total Turnovers
Sylvia Fowles 38
Kristi Toliver 35
Breanna Stewart 32 |
Sylvia Fowles has played in 10 games and averages 3.8 turnovers per game, Breanna Stewart has played in 11 games and averages 2.9 turnovers per game. Not seeing the correlation and why turnovers should affect Breanna the same way it is affecting Sylvia. |
Why would it not ? 1 game makes a big difference ? Both are hurting their team with turnovers so if fowles is being held accountable for hers Same should be done too stewie . |
Compare their stats and teamrecord and then you know why Fowles is not an MVP candidate and Stewart is..
p.s Probably half of Stewie's turnovers are offensive fouls. She needs to adjust her game a lil bit to provent most of those. |
Comparing the team record would be your only fighting argument . Stat wise theres not much difference. Stewie averages a few more PPG while fowles average more Rebs per game . |
Rebounds are the only statistic Fowles has a meaningful edge over Stewart in. Everything else is in Stewie's favor.
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| Posted: 06/20/18 11:05 am ::: |
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| So if the Lynx start winning again, the the Storm start losing does that mean Fowles is an MVP candidate and Stewart isn't?
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| Posted: 06/20/18 1:30 pm ::: |
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| Stewart's turnovers is a non-issue.....She's avg 2.8t on 15.2 fga per game.....That's 1 turnover every 5.4 fga......Fowles is avg 1 turnover every 3.1fga which is terrible....Infact,Stewart is in the bottom half of the league in turnover%(4.4)...while Fowles in the top 10(7.7)
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