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Michelle89
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Posted: 06/06/18 3:15 pm ::: |
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Taurasi and Cambage both should be above Fowles right now..
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WNBA 09
Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 12499 Location: Dallas , Texas
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Posted: 06/06/18 3:56 pm ::: |
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Michelle89 wrote: |
Taurasi and Cambage both should be above Fowles right now.. |
Agreed im not understanding why Cambage continues to get overshadowed this early in the season . Charles with 21.2 FGA per game and averaging 23 PPG shouldn't be above cambage in my opinion.
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toad455
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Posted: 06/06/18 4:01 pm ::: |
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How is Griner #2?!?!?
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zune69
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Speebs56
Joined: 19 Aug 2015 Posts: 226 Location: Orange county, CA
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Posted: 06/07/18 4:35 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
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Lauren Jackson has won MVP three times, twice on 18-16 teams and once on a 17-17 team |
Jackson won in 2003 for an 18-16 team, 2007 for a 17-17 team, and 2010 for a 28-6 team. |
True this. And you may recall that Lisa Leslie had a hissy when LJ won and the Storm did NOT make the playoffs in one of the years she got MVP. She didn't think that the MVP should be given to someone on a team not making the playoffs.
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Speebs56
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pilight
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 66778 Location: Where the action is
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Posted: 06/14/18 3:25 pm ::: |
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http://www.wnba.com/news/race-to-mvp-week-4-stewart-continues-climbing-the-ladder/
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We’re now a quarter of the way through the season, and there are two clear-cut favorites (early) in the MVP race. With the way the season is going in Connecticut, it may be difficult for any of the Sun stars to win this award, mainly because of their depth and balance. That could leave the door open for Brittney Griner or Breanna Stewart. |
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Aladyyn
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Posted: 06/14/18 3:36 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
http://www.wnba.com/news/race-to-mvp-week-4-stewart-continues-climbing-the-ladder/
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We’re now a quarter of the way through the season, and there are two clear-cut favorites (early) in the MVP race. With the way the season is going in Connecticut, it may be difficult for any of the Sun stars to win this award, mainly because of their depth and balance. That could leave the door open for Brittney Griner or Breanna Stewart. |
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Alyssa Thomas at #3? Seriously?
Oh and Diggins is not on the list. Someone got paid to make that top 10?
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Shades
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Posted: 06/14/18 3:41 pm ::: |
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http://www.wnba.com/news/race-to-mvp-week-4-stewart-continues-climbing-the-ladder/ |
1. Brittney Griner, Phoenix Mercury
Last Week: 2
2. Breanna Stewart, Seattle Storm
Last Week: 3
3. Alyssa Thomas, Connecticut Sun
Last Week: 5
4. Nneka Ogwumike, Los Angeles Sparks
Last Week: 1
5. Tina Charles, New York Liberty
Last Week: 7
6. Jewell Loyd, Seattle Storm
Last Week: 6
7. Chelsea Gray, Los Angeles Sparks
Last Week: 4
8. Diana Taurasi, Phoenix Mercury
Last Week: 10
9. Liz Cambage, Dallas Wings
Last Week: 9
10. Sylvia Fowles, Minnesota Lynx
Last Week: 8
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toad455
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Posted: 06/14/18 3:41 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
http://www.wnba.com/news/race-to-mvp-week-4-stewart-continues-climbing-the-ladder/
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We’re now a quarter of the way through the season, and there are two clear-cut favorites (early) in the MVP race. With the way the season is going in Connecticut, it may be difficult for any of the Sun stars to win this award, mainly because of their depth and balance. That could leave the door open for Brittney Griner or Breanna Stewart. |
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This list is a joke.
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PUmatty
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Posted: 06/14/18 3:47 pm ::: |
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The league's leading scorer is not one of the 10(!) top candidates?
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WNBA 09
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Posted: 06/14/18 3:58 pm ::: |
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toad455 wrote: |
pilight wrote: |
http://www.wnba.com/news/race-to-mvp-week-4-stewart-continues-climbing-the-ladder/
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We’re now a quarter of the way through the season, and there are two clear-cut favorites (early) in the MVP race. With the way the season is going in Connecticut, it may be difficult for any of the Sun stars to win this award, mainly because of their depth and balance. That could leave the door open for Brittney Griner or Breanna Stewart. |
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This list is a joke. |
And people get on me for thinking the WNBA has an agenda hmph. *Crosses Arms*
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Fighting Artichoke
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Posted: 06/14/18 4:03 pm ::: |
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PUmatty wrote: |
The league's leading scorer is not one of the 10(!) top candidates? |
Probably because she's only third in assists.
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Shades
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Posted: 06/14/18 4:20 pm ::: |
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Fighting Artichoke wrote: |
PUmatty wrote: |
The league's leading scorer is not one of the 10(!) top candidates? |
Probably because she's only fourth in assists. |
Maybe he's trying to eliminate volume shooters as MVP's.
Nobody is under 42 in FG% on the list.
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Richyyy
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Posted: 06/14/18 4:23 pm ::: |
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Aladyyn
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Posted: 06/14/18 4:23 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
Fighting Artichoke wrote: |
PUmatty wrote: |
The league's leading scorer is not one of the 10(!) top candidates? |
Probably because she's only fourth in assists. |
Maybe he's trying to eliminate volume shooters as MVP's.
Nobody is under 42 in FG% on the list. |
FG% is honestly a dumb metric. Alyssa Thomas is 49.4% from the field, does that mean she's efficient? Hell no, she's the exact opposite of efficient, especially given her volume. Tina Charles has had like 2 efficient scoring seasons in her career, nobody cares.
And if efficiency is so important, Toliver should be somewhere on the list.
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Randy
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Posted: 06/14/18 4:30 pm ::: |
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From reading these comments it seems the collective wisdom of this group is that no one on the list should be there. Perhaps ten players should just be selected at random.
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Michelle89
Joined: 17 Nov 2010 Posts: 16464 Location: Holland
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Posted: 06/14/18 4:49 pm ::: |
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Randy wrote: |
From reading these comments it seems the collective wisdom of this group is that no one on the list should be there. Perhaps ten players should just be selected at random. |
With the way Diggins has been playing and how bad the lynx have been there shouldnt be a reason that Fowles is on this list and Diggins isnt..
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Aladyyn
Joined: 23 Jul 2017 Posts: 1560 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: 06/14/18 4:54 pm ::: |
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Michelle89 wrote: |
Randy wrote: |
From reading these comments it seems the collective wisdom of this group is that no one on the list should be there. Perhaps ten players should just be selected at random. |
With the way Diggins has been playing and how bad the lynx have been there shouldnt be a reason that Fowles is on this list and Diggins isnt.. |
Hell, Wilson should be there over Fowles. Their teams have the same amount of wins...
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WNBA 09
Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 12499 Location: Dallas , Texas
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Posted: 06/14/18 5:03 pm ::: |
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Aladyyn wrote: |
Michelle89 wrote: |
Randy wrote: |
From reading these comments it seems the collective wisdom of this group is that no one on the list should be there. Perhaps ten players should just be selected at random. |
With the way Diggins has been playing and how bad the lynx have been there shouldnt be a reason that Fowles is on this list and Diggins isnt.. |
Hell, Wilson should be there over Fowles. Their teams have the same amount of wins... |
Boom , Surprised to say i Agree with Michelle on the Diggins assessment . I also agree Wilson should be on this list if Fowles is on here oddly .
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Fighting Artichoke
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Posted: 06/14/18 5:52 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
Fighting Artichoke wrote: |
PUmatty wrote: |
The league's leading scorer is not one of the 10(!) top candidates? |
Probably because she's only fourth in assists. |
Maybe he's trying to eliminate volume shooters as MVP's.
Nobody is under 42 in FG% on the list. |
Seems like a rather arbitrary stat to use to eliminate someone. Why not consider the entire package? Diggins' TS% is higher than A. Thomas's, who the writer lists as 3rd on his list. Thomas has a PER of 16.3, whereas Diggins is at 22.8, so I guess she's doing something right.
Also, why did you change my post to demote Diggins to 4th in assists. On the WNBA site, it reads:
1. Bird 6.0
2. Gray 5.9
3. Diggins 5.8
4. J. Thomas 5.1
Where did you get your stats?
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Shades
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Posted: 06/14/18 6:09 pm ::: |
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Vandersloot is at 6.0, but I guess she doesn't have enough games played to qualify as one of the "leaders".
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pilight
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J-Spoon
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Posted: 06/14/18 11:38 pm ::: |
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How about
1. Stewart
2. N. Ogwumike
3. Griner
4. Diggins-Smith
5. A. Thomas
6. L. Cambage
7. C. Gray
8. J. Loyd
9. D. Taurasi
10.T. Hayes
Maybe add EDD when she gets a few more games played
No one from a team below 500 ATM Maybe later if Wilson is averaging 20 and 10 and LV is close to even
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Aladyyn
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