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PostPosted: 05/17/18 11:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ATM it looks like Sloot and N'Dour will knock off Harper and Hopkins and you get

Sloot/Faulkner
Quigley/Copper
Deshields/Williams/Montgomery
C. Parker/Bulgak/N'Dour
Dolson/Coates


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PostPosted: 05/19/18 10:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

As season opens, Chicago Sky will lean on its depth

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Stocks says her "six starters" at the moment, and for today's opener against the Fever, are: guards Allie Quigley, Jamierra Faulkner and Alex Montgomery as well as forwards Kahleah Copper, Cheyenne Parker and Stefanie Dolson.

Stocks envisions grouping the starters, likely in groups of three in most situations


Quigley - started - 28 min
Dolson - started - 28 min
Williams - started - 28 min
DeShields - started - 26 min
Faulkner - 23 min
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Hopkins - started - 17 min
Montgomery - 14 min
Copper - 12 min
Parker - 12 min
Coates - 12 min


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PostPosted: 05/20/18 7:52 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Stocks really needs to rethink her strategy of making full lineup changes...Substituting five players at once when your team is playing good is just stupid...You run the risk of completely changing the momentum of the game.


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PostPosted: 05/21/18 8:38 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

sigur3 wrote:
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Ndour - temporary suspension so I presume they must expect her back at some point. Can she play the 4 position?


Yes, ideally. She's highly skilled for someone of her size but has a Bonneresque frame. No low post banging for her.

She's an intriguing prospect IMO but I have absolutely no clue what her status with the team is. You're right though, they re-signed her and then suspended her so probably going to get her back sometime this summer if all goes well. I'll try to find out for you good people.


I know this is a four day old post and I am sure you've noticed but Astou appears to be coming over after all. She's been somewhat active on Twitter mentioning the Sky a lot and congratulating them on their wins. She'll be an interesting addition. I almost feel like she and Gabby can be interchangeable at the 3 and 4... I am having a hard time remembering her short stint with SASS though.



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PostPosted: 05/21/18 8:40 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

zune69 wrote:
Stocks really needs to rethink her strategy of making full lineup changes...Substituting five players at once when your team is playing good is just stupid...You run the risk of completely changing the momentum of the game.


Maybe it's because my high school ran "The System," but I actually don't mind the whole sale subs. I felt like each group had great chemistry and energy. Also, I think Stocks understands it's situational. At the end of the game, she nixed the idea and went with a more comprehensive lineup, but I think for quarters 1-3 it's not a bad idea. It reminds me of how Thibs used to have the Bench Mob with the Bulls.



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PostPosted: 05/21/18 9:44 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

bullsky wrote:
zune69 wrote:
Stocks really needs to rethink her strategy of making full lineup changes...Substituting five players at once when your team is playing good is just stupid...You run the risk of completely changing the momentum of the game.


Maybe it's because my high school ran "The System," but I actually don't mind the whole sale subs. I felt like each group had great chemistry and energy. Also, I think Stocks understands it's situational. At the end of the game, she nixed the idea and went with a more comprehensive lineup, but I think for quarters 1-3 it's not a bad idea. It reminds me of how Thibs used to have the Bench Mob with the Bulls.


Stocks just needs to do a better job of leaving the hot player and hot lineup on the court...In the 1st quarter.Stocks pulled a hot Quigley out of the game....Chicago opened the 3rd quarter on a 10-2 run and Stocks made wholesale substitutions Laughing .....If Stocks can make a few adjustments to her system.I believe Chicago can win 16-20 games.


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PostPosted: 05/27/18 11:15 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Vandersloot and Astou Ndour has been activated. Chelsea Hopkins and Adut Bulgak has been waived.



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PostPosted: 05/27/18 5:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

NVM


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PostPosted: 05/27/18 6:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Would like to see:

1.Parker in the starting lineup....Parker's avg 7.0 reb in 18.5 mpg while Gabby is avg just 3.5 reb in 22 0 mpg...Gabby is being overwhelmed in the post and on the boards by bigger/taller players.Parker's a better rebounder,low post scorer,shot blocker,and would provide the Sky with some much needed defensive size in the starting lineup...Gabby's speed and athletic ability isn't enough to make up for her lack of height.

2.More minutes for DD when she's having a good game....Diamond leads all rookies in fg%,ft%,Asst(tied w/nurse),is 2nd in reb,and 4th in pts....I'd also like to see Diamond guard the opposing teams best wing player...Loyd had 8 fg's against the Sky...0 made fg against DD...Clark shot 0-6 from the field thanks to the good defense of DD and K.Copper.

3.Coach Stocks abandon the five-player substitutuon...Too many negatives with this strategy:

A.Hot players being taken out of the game.
B.Full lineup change when the team is playing good.
C.Players not having chemistry with one another because they've rarely played together.
D.Players not getting enough playimg time(Parker,DeShields)


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PostPosted: 05/27/18 9:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I do agree that the Williams at power forward experiment should end ASAP. Stocks substitution patterns might not change this season. I don't agree with it but I believe her logic behind this strategy is this season is compressed and she wants her squad to have fresh legs by the end of the season.
This strategy is logical only if the team wins enough games to make it to the playoffs. If the team is lottery bound then it makes no sense.



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PostPosted: 05/27/18 10:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Vandersloot and Astou Ndour has been activated. Chelsea Hopkins and Adut Bulgak has been waived.


I do understand saying goodbye to Hopkins but I don't agree with the release of Bulgak. That means that Stocks is fully committed to playing Williams at the power forward position for the rest of the season. I guess I need to put on my casino clothes and hang out with my honey at the roulette table. The Sky will be lottery bound for the 2019 season if Williams plays twenty plus minutes a game at the power forward position. Confused



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PostPosted: 05/27/18 11:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Her platoon system is a joke.

But still they already have two wins toward their 8 win limit. Very Happy



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PostPosted: 05/28/18 12:37 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Her platoon system is a joke.

But still they already have two wins toward their 8 win limit. Very Happy

You should focus on playing Bingo if you are going to hang out with us at the casino.



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PostPosted: 05/30/18 11:58 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

What positive attributes does Linnae Harper have that would make her indispensable to Coach Stocks?



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PostPosted: 05/30/18 12:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:


But still they already have two wins toward their 8 win limit. Very Happy


I think you may underestimate the value of Sloot to this club. She may need a little time to adjust to the new faces, but once they gel it could be hell.



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PostPosted: 05/30/18 12:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
myrtle wrote:


But still they already have two wins toward their 8 win limit. Very Happy


I think you may underestimate the value of Sloot to this club. She may need a little time to adjust to the new faces, but once they gel it could be hell.


s'ok. kinda a private joke with Rock...



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PostPosted: 05/30/18 12:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
Shades wrote:
myrtle wrote:


But still they already have two wins toward their 8 win limit. Very Happy


I think you may underestimate the value of Sloot to this club. She may need a little time to adjust to the new faces, but once they gel it could be hell.


s'ok. kinda a private joke with Rock...

Yes, you do like to mess with me. I should make a bet with you that if the Sky win more than a dozen games that you will have to have a photo of Tamera Young for your avatar photo. Do you want to make that bet? Very Happy



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PostPosted: 05/30/18 12:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Rock Hard wrote:
What positive attributes does Linnae Harper have that would make her indispensable to Coach Stocks?

She keeps the last seat nice and toasty.


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PostPosted: 05/30/18 4:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Rock Hard wrote:
myrtle wrote:
Shades wrote:
myrtle wrote:


But still they already have two wins toward their 8 win limit. Very Happy


I think you may underestimate the value of Sloot to this club. She may need a little time to adjust to the new faces, but once they gel it could be hell.


s'ok. kinda a private joke with Rock...

Yes, you do like to mess with me. I should make a bet with you that if the Sky win more than a dozen games that you will have to have a photo of Tamera Young for your avatar photo. Do you want to make that bet? Very Happy


and what would YOU have to do if you lose?



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PostPosted: 05/30/18 7:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
Rock Hard wrote:
myrtle wrote:
Shades wrote:
myrtle wrote:


But still they already have two wins toward their 8 win limit. Very Happy


I think you may underestimate the value of Sloot to this club. She may need a little time to adjust to the new faces, but once they gel it could be hell.


s'ok. kinda a private joke with Rock...

Yes, you do like to mess with me. I should make a bet with you that if the Sky win more than a dozen games that you will have to have a photo of Tamera Young for your avatar photo. Do you want to make that bet? Very Happy


and what would YOU have to do if you lose?

I will display any Delle Donne photo of your choice wearing a Mystics jersey as my avatar photo. The loser must display their photo until January 1, 2019. Deal or no deal? Very Happy



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PostPosted: 06/08/18 6:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/R1NH10xE1EI" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>


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PostPosted: 06/13/18 4:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Can DeShields do this? That’s a beyond elite level pass. Keep developing this one.
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1006727291328753664/pu/vid/1280x720/Lb71Yo8DlOt0s2bw.mp4



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PostPosted: 06/13/18 5:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
Can DeShields do this? That’s a beyond elite level pass. Keep developing this one.
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1006727291328753664/pu/vid/1280x720/Lb71Yo8DlOt0s2bw.mp4



Laughing Laughing Laughing Still trying to compare the two ? Laughing Laughing Laughing
Can gabby hit a shot ? Thats beyond elite level ? Both need to continue to be developed , but im not sure Coach Stocks is the answer to that.



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PostPosted: 06/13/18 6:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
Shades wrote:
Can DeShields do this? That’s a beyond elite level pass. Keep developing this one.
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1006727291328753664/pu/vid/1280x720/Lb71Yo8DlOt0s2bw.mp4



Laughing Laughing Laughing Still trying to compare the two ? Laughing Laughing Laughing
Can gabby hit a shot ? Thats beyond elite level ? Both need to continue to be developed , but im not sure Coach Stocks is the answer to that.

No WNBA coach can take credit for the skill development of individual players. Skill development is something players have to do themselves.



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PostPosted: 06/14/18 1:43 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Like everyone I'm not sure what is going on with Harrison in LV but Copper for Harrison could be good for both teams this will open up more minutes for Deshields and Gabby at the 2 and 3 and give Chicago a legit PF who can be combined with Dolson, Ch. Parker, Coates or N'Dour in the front court

Sloot/Faulkner
Quigley/(Deshields)/Harper
Deshields/G. Williams/A. Montgomery
Ch. Parker/Harrison/N'Dour
Dolson/Coates

Copper seems like a Laimbeer type player and fits nicely behind McBride and Young

L. Allen/Plum/Jefferson
McBride/Copper
T. Young/Nared
Wilson/Hamby
Park/Bone/Swords


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