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PostPosted: 05/07/18 4:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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If Stocks is going to have trouble getting Williams minutes, maybe they'd be better off trading her?


What value would she have in your opinion Toad ? Maybe Gabby to NY for Stokes ? Sounds about fair ?



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If Stocks is going to have trouble getting Williams minutes, maybe they'd be better off trading her?


What value would she have in your opinion Toad ? Maybe Gabby to NY for Stokes ? Sounds about fair ?


Possibly. But Williams seems like she'd do well in Phoenix. Maybe Williams for their 1st rounder in 2019?



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toad455 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
If Stocks is going to have trouble getting Williams minutes, maybe they'd be better off trading her?


What value would she have in your opinion Toad ? Maybe Gabby to NY for Stokes ? Sounds about fair ?


Possibly. But Williams seems like she'd do well in Phoenix. Maybe Williams for their 1st rounder in 2019?


That could be a good trade , If PHX thinks they will be at the bottom of the 1st round .



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WNBA 09 wrote:
mavcarter wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
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Would it be ludicrous to keep her over another rookie drafted ?


Who's the other rookie that was drafted to keep Harper over?


Chicago did draft multiple rookies so idk why your wanting a specific person ? My words were "Another Rookie Drafted" . You can select whom you project , its not like its obvious or anything Cool


Huh? Confused

You said rookie, not rookies that's why I asked what rookie but I guess. Laughing


It was a simple yes or no question not a who's who Rolling Eyes


Oh my GOD, sorry for harassing you about a simple question. Laughing Confused


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Or the Sky can just keep Williams, and you know, give her a couple of years to see how she pans out because everyone isn't an all star out the gate. Twisted Evil


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Or the Sky can just keep Williams, and you know, give her a couple of years to see how she pans out because everyone isn't an all star out the gate. Twisted Evil


A couple of years too see how she pans out Shocked ? So like another Kelly Faris situation ? Sorry just trying to see how long ? I say 1-2 seasons max , i highly doubt the value will get any higher if you wait to long to pull the trade trigger huh mav ? Laughing



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A couple of years too see how she pans out Shocked ?


Yes, the Sky are going to suck anyway for a while so why not just let Williams grow, make some mistakes and see if she turns into something. I mean, I thought that’s how it normally works.

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So like another Kelly Faris situation ?


Hey, we don’t know if it’s that situation until she plays more than one season, right?

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Sorry just trying to see how long ? I say 1-2 seasons max


Two can be considered a couple, 09.

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i highly doubt the value will get any higher if you wait to long to pull the trade trigger huh mav ? Laughing


Personally, I don’t want her to be traded. Laughing


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Harper has been playing point guard FWIW and IMO not really that well. You can tell it's not her natural position. Stocks is constantly pulling her aside and fussing at her not to pick up her dribble, look for the roller, etc.


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Harper has been playing point guard FWIW and IMO not really that well. You can tell it's not her natural position. Stocks is constantly pulling her aside and fussing at her not to pick up her dribble, look for the roller, etc.


Well at least shes producing something i guess. I dont see Harper as a PG neither , just a smaller version of Gabby with a bit more polished offensive game.



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PostPosted: 05/07/18 8:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
If Stocks is going to have trouble getting Williams minutes, maybe they'd be better off trading her?


What value would she have in your opinion Toad ? Maybe Gabby to NY for Stokes ? Sounds about fair ?


Possibly. But Williams seems like she'd do well in Phoenix. Maybe Williams for their 1st rounder in 2019?


That could be a good trade , If PHX thinks they will be at the bottom of the 1st round .


As a Phoenix fan, it’s a no from me.
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WNBA 09 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
If Stocks is going to have trouble getting Williams minutes, maybe they'd be better off trading her?


What value would she have in your opinion Toad ? Maybe Gabby to NY for Stokes ? Sounds about fair ?


Possibly. But Williams seems like she'd do well in Phoenix. Maybe Williams for their 1st rounder in 2019?


That could be a good trade , If PHX thinks they will be at the bottom of the 1st round .


As a Phoenix fan, it’s a no from me.


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I will forever be scratching my head over the Sky taking Williams over Stevens (19 & 9 in her debut, and waaaaay better than anyone they currently have at the 4). Stupid to double up on one position when you could have filled holes at two.

It doesn't matter who starts with Dolson. They will be the worst in the league at their position.

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Considering how poorly Copper played, are we to assume DeShields will be the starting SF come next weekend?



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Considering how poorly Copper played, are we to assume DeShields will be the starting SF come next weekend?


DeShields is going to be at least a week behind most every other newcomer learning Stock’s system. If you are saying that’s an advantage for DeShields, that doesn’t say much about Stock’s system.

Oh well, I guess it’s about the long term outlook for Chicago.



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I will forever be scratching my head over the Sky taking Williams over Stevens (19 & 9 in her debut, and waaaaay better than anyone they currently have at the 4). Stupid to double up on one position when you could have filled holes at two.

It doesn't matter who starts with Dolson. They will be the worst in the league at their position.

Incredibly bad judgement.


Don't worry, Stevens went to a team with really not much structure or team defense which benefitted her. Thats the way the cookie crumbles.


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PickledGinger wrote:
I will forever be scratching my head over the Sky taking Williams over Stevens (19 & 9 in her debut, and waaaaay better than anyone they currently have at the 4). Stupid to double up on one position when you could have filled holes at two.

It doesn't matter who starts with Dolson. They will be the worst in the league at their position.

Incredibly bad judgement.


Don't worry, Stevens went to a team with really not much structure or team defense which benefitted her. Thats the way the cookie crumbles.



She also went to a team who will compete for a title this year.
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WNBA 09 wrote:
Nixtreefan wrote:
PickledGinger wrote:
I will forever be scratching my head over the Sky taking Williams over Stevens (19 & 9 in her debut, and waaaaay better than anyone they currently have at the 4). Stupid to double up on one position when you could have filled holes at two.

It doesn't matter who starts with Dolson. They will be the worst in the league at their position.

Incredibly bad judgement.


Don't worry, Stevens went to a team with really not much structure or team defense which benefitted her. Thats the way the cookie crumbles.



She also went to a team who will compete for a title this year.
Yay ! Cookies Cool


Well, the Wings have some new pieces that need to get worked into the rotation. Let's see how well coach Williams handles this before claiming them as a title contender. Yes, on paper they have the talent to compete with anyone and should easily make the play-offs.



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toad455 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Nixtreefan wrote:
PickledGinger wrote:
I will forever be scratching my head over the Sky taking Williams over Stevens (19 & 9 in her debut, and waaaaay better than anyone they currently have at the 4). Stupid to double up on one position when you could have filled holes at two.

It doesn't matter who starts with Dolson. They will be the worst in the league at their position.

Incredibly bad judgement.


Don't worry, Stevens went to a team with really not much structure or team defense which benefitted her. Thats the way the cookie crumbles.



She also went to a team who will compete for a title this year.
Yay ! Cookies Cool


Well, the Wings have some new pieces that need to get worked into the rotation. Let's see how well coach Williams handles this before claiming them as a title contender. Yes, on paper they have the talent to compete with anyone and should easily make the play-offs.


Were competing for a title, thats the goal . No more just "making" the playoffs we accomplished that last year.



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Yakin Dogu vs Cukurova game 3 live stream: http://www.trtspor.com.tr/canli-yayin-izle/trt-spor-159/

Live stats: http://www.fibalivestats.com/u/TBF/871887/index_en_AU.html


Deshields went down early and had to be carried off the court, but returned later in the 1st quarter.




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WNBA 09 wrote:
Nixtreefan wrote:
PickledGinger wrote:
I will forever be scratching my head over the Sky taking Williams over Stevens (19 & 9 in her debut, and waaaaay better than anyone they currently have at the 4). Stupid to double up on one position when you could have filled holes at two.

It doesn't matter who starts with Dolson. They will be the worst in the league at their position.

Incredibly bad judgement.


Don't worry, Stevens went to a team with really not much structure or team defense which benefitted her. Thats the way the cookie crumbles.



She also went to a team who will compete for a title this year.
Yay ! Cookies Cool


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View from the Sky: Gabby Williams' WNBA rookie diary

http://abc7chicago.com/sports/view-from-the-sky-gabby-williams-wnba-rookie-diary/3443832/

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Kia Nurse, Azura Stevens and I have all gotten "welcomed" to the league. Mine was in practice the other day. Coach [Amber] Stocks got on me when we were doing a shell defense drill. She said, "You think you can guard Angel McCoughtry or Maya Moore like that?"

That's when I was like, "Man, that's really who I might have to guard pretty soon." My coaches at UConn would say things like that, but it was always hypothetical.

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Sky waive Renee Bennett.



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toad455 wrote:
Sky waive Renee Bennett.


And Aramah Coleman



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<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/iXteCuvBGPg" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I really liked Dolson’s Watch Me Work video. Nice job in the production!



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Sky waive Renee Bennett.


This was released on YouTube about the same time as when she was cut. Seems to have a good head on her shoulders.

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With the final cuts approaching, are there any posts out there or teams that we should keep an eye on? Dallas waived Akhator and Hamblin but neither seems worth it to me.

Also - any word on Astou Ndour? Is she even actually coming over?

Looking forward to see this team grow! I know many are counting this team out (for some good reasons and bad reasons). But I think once our solid core gels, we should be quite good. Hoping for big seasons from Copper and Parker.



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bullsky wrote:
With the final cuts approaching, are there any posts out there or teams that we should keep an eye on? Dallas waived Akhator and Hamblin but neither seems worth it to me.

Also - any word on Astou Ndour? Is she even actually coming over?

Looking forward to see this team grow! I know many are counting this team out (for some good reasons and bad reasons). But I think once our solid core gels, we should be quite good. Hoping for big seasons from Copper and Parker.


I had the same thought on Akhator, but the Sky don't need another project. With the rate Coates and Dolson foul at, they need someone who can actually stay on the floor.

No idea on Ndour. One would assume she would come over since she was re-signed this offseason, though she hasn't been very consistent in doing so. Their series just ended yesterday so we'll find out soon.


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sigur3 wrote:
bullsky wrote:
With the final cuts approaching, are there any posts out there or teams that we should keep an eye on? Dallas waived Akhator and Hamblin but neither seems worth it to me.

Also - any word on Astou Ndour? Is she even actually coming over?

Looking forward to see this team grow! I know many are counting this team out (for some good reasons and bad reasons). But I think once our solid core gels, we should be quite good. Hoping for big seasons from Copper and Parker.


I had the same thought on Akhator, but the Sky don't need another project. With the rate Coates and Dolson foul at, they need someone who can actually stay on the floor.

No idea on Ndour. One would assume she would come over since she was re-signed this offseason, though she hasn't been very consistent in doing so. Their series just ended yesterday so we'll find out soon.


Cool. She doesn't help our need for a strong post, but a player like Shakayla Thomas jumps out at me. I don't think she has any shot of making the LAS roster. She's just so athletic though.

Also keeping an eye on competitive rosters like Connecticut (B. Jones, George), Indy (Graves, McCall), Minnesota (Alleyne), Seattle (Muldrow).

At this point, I think the only solid post locks for the Sky are Parker, Williams, Coates and Dolson.



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bullsky wrote:
sigur3 wrote:
bullsky wrote:
With the final cuts approaching, are there any posts out there or teams that we should keep an eye on? Dallas waived Akhator and Hamblin but neither seems worth it to me.

Also - any word on Astou Ndour? Is she even actually coming over?

Looking forward to see this team grow! I know many are counting this team out (for some good reasons and bad reasons). But I think once our solid core gels, we should be quite good. Hoping for big seasons from Copper and Parker.


I had the same thought on Akhator, but the Sky don't need another project. With the rate Coates and Dolson foul at, they need someone who can actually stay on the floor.

No idea on Ndour. One would assume she would come over since she was re-signed this offseason, though she hasn't been very consistent in doing so. Their series just ended yesterday so we'll find out soon.


Cool. She doesn't help our need for a strong post, but a player like Shakayla Thomas jumps out at me. I don't think she has any shot of making the LAS roster. She's just so athletic though.

Also keeping an eye on competitive rosters like Connecticut (B. Jones, George), Indy (Graves, McCall), Minnesota (Alleyne), Seattle (Muldrow).

At this point, I think the only solid post locks for the Sky are Parker, Williams, Coates and Dolson.



Why go after S. Thomas when you have Gabby on the team already ? Not being funny , but consensus was made that Gabby was the better of the 2 and both being the same type of player.



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Shades wrote:
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Considering how poorly Copper played, are we to assume DeShields will be the starting SF come next weekend?


DeShields is going to be at least a week behind most every other newcomer learning Stock’s system. If you are saying that’s an advantage for DeShields, that doesn’t say much about Stock’s system.


Some would argue that DeShields is actually four years behind, given the perceived lack of Xs and Os coaching and work on fundamentals that she received (or did not receive) from the head coaches at the two institutions she attended.


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Behind the Scenes: Media Day





The team enjoys taking a group shot with Dr. Douglas R. Dirschl, MD, Chair of the Department of Orthopaedic Surgery and Rehabilitation Medicine at the University of Chicago Medicine.



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Am I the only one who prefers Dev Peters to Bulgak? She was just waived by Washington. If both are equal, Dev at least has a local edge.



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Am I the only one who prefers Dev Peters to Bulgak? She was just waived by Washington. If both are equal, Dev at least has a local edge.

Issue with Peters is she's been out for a long time. Can't really know if she's all the way back. But yeah, you'd think Peters or Latkins would probably be an upgrade on the parade of question marks in Chciago's post rotation.



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Am I the only one who prefers Dev Peters to Bulgak? She was just waived by Washington. If both are equal, Dev at least has a local edge.

Issue with Peters is she's been out for a long time. Can't really know if she's all the way back. But yeah, you'd think Peters or Latkins would probably be an upgrade on the parade of question marks in Chciago's post rotation.


Yeah, it's been a whole month since Peters finished her season in Slovakia



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Am I the only one who prefers Dev Peters to Bulgak? She was just waived by Washington. If both are equal, Dev at least has a local edge.


BOOYAH!

But yeah.... Chicago is her hometown and they have a little hometown theme going with Harper. A hometown player might not want to leave even Chicago. You might be onto something here.



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Shades wrote:
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Am I the only one who prefers Dev Peters to Bulgak? She was just waived by Washington. If both are equal, Dev at least has a local edge.


BOOYAH!

But yeah.... Chicago is her hometown and they have a little hometown theme going with Harper. A hometown player might not even want to leave Chicago. You might be onto something here.


Harper will not make this team. Only way she plays on opening day is if Sloot isn't available and CHI feels its best to get an exemption.



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bullsky wrote:
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Am I the only one who prefers Dev Peters to Bulgak? She was just waived by Washington. If both are equal, Dev at least has a local edge.


BOOYAH!

But yeah.... Chicago is her hometown and they have a little hometown theme going with Harper. A hometown player might not even want to leave Chicago. You might be onto something here.


Harper will not make this team. Only way she plays on opening day is if Sloot isn't available and CHI feels its best to get an exemption.


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pilight wrote:
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Am I the only one who prefers Dev Peters to Bulgak? She was just waived by Washington. If both are equal, Dev at least has a local edge.

Issue with Peters is she's been out for a long time. Can't really know if she's all the way back. But yeah, you'd think Peters or Latkins would probably be an upgrade on the parade of question marks in Chciago's post rotation.


Yeah, it's been a whole month since Peters finished her season in Slovakia

Where she'd still be a useful player at 30% of the backup big she used to be.



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So Sky have:

PG: Faulkner/Hopkins
SG: Quigley/Harper/Copper
SF: DeShields/Montgomery
PF: Parker/Bulgak/Williams
C: Dolson/Coates

Hopkins or Harper get cut when Vandersloot arrives.



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toad455 wrote:
So Sky have:

PG: Faulkner/Hopkins
SG: Quigley/Harper/Copper
SF: DeShields/Montgomery
PF: Parker/Bulgak/Williams
C: Dolson/Coates

Hopkins or Harper get cut when Vandersloot arrives.


hey, who needs anybody who can shoot anyway?! Well, they still look good lined up against Indy...but that's about it.



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toad455 wrote:
So Sky have:

PG: Faulkner/Hopkins
SG: Quigley/Harper/Copper
SF: DeShields/Montgomery
PF: Parker/Bulgak/Williams
C: Dolson/Coates

Hopkins or Harper get cut when Vandersloot arrives.


Williams not a PF



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WNBA 09 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
So Sky have:

PG: Faulkner/Hopkins
SG: Quigley/Harper/Copper
SF: DeShields/Montgomery
PF: Parker/Bulgak/Williams
C: Dolson/Coates

Hopkins or Harper get cut when Vandersloot arrives.


Williams not a PF


They're overloaded at SF. I'm guessing Williams sees time at PF.



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Ndour - temporary suspension so I presume they must expect her back at some point. Can she play the 4 position?



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PostPosted: 05/17/18 8:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
So Sky have:

PG: Faulkner/Hopkins
SG: Quigley/Harper/Copper
SF: DeShields/Montgomery
PF: Parker/Bulgak/Williams
C: Dolson/Coates

Hopkins or Harper get cut when Vandersloot arrives.


Williams not a PF


They're overloaded at SF. I'm guessing Williams sees time at PF.


That had to be what Stocks was thinking when she picked Williams after signing Montgomery and picking DeShields. But the list of WNBA power forwards who were under 6 feet is short.


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Randy wrote:
Ndour - temporary suspension so I presume they must expect her back at some point. Can she play the 4 position?


Yes, ideally. She's highly skilled for someone of her size but has a Bonneresque frame. No low post banging for her.

She's an intriguing prospect IMO but I have absolutely no clue what her status with the team is. You're right though, they re-signed her and then suspended her so probably going to get her back sometime this summer if all goes well. I'll try to find out for you good people.


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