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Shades



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PostPosted: 05/15/18 3:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Last cut is either McCall or Mavunga.


That’s an easy mccall to make, unless Pokey has decided to purge all the Mavungas.



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PostPosted: 05/15/18 3:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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sigur3 wrote:
Fever waive Graves, Peterson, and Pohlen-Mavunga


So they are at 13 now with Johnson. Don't think they need all those posts, so I'm guessing Johnson may be back sooner than later. Last cut is either McCall or Mavunga.


A little disappointed to see Peterson go, but she was a long shot. Glad to see the Fever move on from Pohlen. She was a nice piece to have her first couple of years, but she is clearly not part of the future of the franchise.


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PostPosted: 05/17/18 9:02 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Larkins waived.

This is the rebuildiest of all rebuilds.


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PostPosted: 05/17/18 9:06 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

sigur3 wrote:
Larkins waived.

This is the rebuildiest of all rebuilds.


Wow. Shocked


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PostPosted: 05/17/18 9:09 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

so

Wheeler/K. Mitchell
T. Mitchell/Abdelkader/S. Johnson
Gwathmey/Vivians
Dupree/Mavunga/McCall
Alexander/Achonwa


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PostPosted: 05/17/18 9:15 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Nixtreefan wrote:
Randy wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
Working the pick and roll? A big problem a lot of these giants have is that players go shooting by them off picks, or they can't recover back into the paint after picks bring them outside. I continue to be baffled by the pervading fondness for big white stiffs. Hamblin's in the same camp.


Great White Hope syndrome?


You talking about Stevens? That stereotyping is pitiful.


More like racism.

I'll bet these two won't be watching the Royal Wedding this Saturday.


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PostPosted: 05/17/18 9:18 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

sigur3 wrote:
Larkins waived.

This is the rebuildiest of all rebuilds.


Only Johnson and Achonwa remain from the team that played in the finals three seasons ago.


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PostPosted: 05/17/18 9:20 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

sigur3 wrote:
Larkins waived.

This is the rebuildiest of all rebuilds.


Larkins will find a spot on someone's bench.



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PostPosted: 05/17/18 9:22 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

She hasn't done much in the past few seasons.


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PostPosted: 05/17/18 9:29 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
so

Wheeler/K. Mitchell
T. Mitchell/Abdelkader/S. Johnson
Gwathmey/Vivians
Dupree/Mavunga/McCall
Alexander/Achonwa


Oh God. Laughing


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PostPosted: 05/17/18 9:50 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

mavcarter wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
so

Wheeler/K. Mitchell
T. Mitchell/Abdelkader/S. Johnson
Gwathmey/Vivians
Dupree/Mavunga/McCall
Alexander/Achonwa


Oh God. Laughing


When healthy you could probably start S. Johnson at the 3 spot.


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PostPosted: 05/17/18 9:51 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

mavcarter wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
so

Wheeler/K. Mitchell
T. Mitchell/Abdelkader/S. Johnson
Gwathmey/Vivians
Dupree/Mavunga/McCall
Alexander/Achonwa


Oh God. Laughing


This appears to me to be a very bad team ...how many of these starters start for, say, Dallas or Atlanta (much less the Sparks or Lynx)?

Might as well start Mitchell and Vivians since you're going to lose anyway ...



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PostPosted: 05/17/18 9:51 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
mavcarter wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
so

Wheeler/K. Mitchell
T. Mitchell/Abdelkader/S. Johnson
Gwathmey/Vivians
Dupree/Mavunga/McCall
Alexander/Achonwa


Oh God. Laughing


When healthy you could probably start S. Johnson at the 3 spot.


You certainly do. There is no question about.


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PostPosted: 05/17/18 10:31 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Dupree/Mavunga/McCall
Alexander/Achonwa

Shocked Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: 05/17/18 10:33 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I have to believe that a few of the players on the waiver wire will be better than some of those listed on the depth chart above.


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PostPosted: 05/17/18 10:56 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

bump



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PostPosted: 05/17/18 10:56 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I’m fairly sure Pokey let Coleman go because she felt she had a Day 1 starter in Vivians. If indeed Gwathmey is starting over Vivians, that’s kind of a bitter pill to swallow.



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PostPosted: 05/17/18 10:58 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
I’m fairly sure Pokey let Coleman go because she felt she had a Day 1 starter in Vivians. If indeed Gwathmey is starting over Vivians, that’s kind of a bitter pill to swallow.


IMO, I don't think Vivians will be that good but I agree that she should start.


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PostPosted: 05/17/18 11:15 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I hope we win 5 games this season.


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PostPosted: 05/17/18 11:19 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
I’m fairly sure Pokey let Coleman go because she felt she had a Day 1 starter in Vivians. If indeed Gwathmey is starting over Vivians, that’s kind of a bitter pill to swallow.


Not at all. This team is planning for the future, and Coleman isn't part of it. Same with Larkins. Dupree is good enough to keep around and help the team transition - the others needed cut loose.


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PostPosted: 05/17/18 11:19 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

My impression has always been that Larkins was pretty laid back. I wonder if she felt a bit 'entitled' and she and Pokey simply didn't see eye to eye. But I would be curious if Pokey didn't at least try to trade her for a 2nd rounder next year.



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PostPosted: 05/17/18 11:24 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
My impression has always been that Larkins was pretty laid back. I wonder if she felt a bit 'entitled' and she and Pokey simply didn't see eye to eye. But I would be curious if Pokey didn't at least try to trade her for a 2nd rounder next year.

She tends to play as hard as anyone and chase everything on the floor, though. Even when you're going super-young and clearly rebuilding, you want the right people around to 'create a culture'. My impression from outside is I'd much rather have Larkins around for that than Dupree - the poster-girl for empty stats and half-assed defense.



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PostPosted: 05/17/18 11:37 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PUmatty wrote:
Shades wrote:
I’m fairly sure Pokey let Coleman go because she felt she had a Day 1 starter in Vivians. If indeed Gwathmey is starting over Vivians, that’s kind of a bitter pill to swallow.


Not at all. This team is planning for the future, and Coleman isn't part of it. Same with Larkins. Dupree is good enough to keep around and help the team transition - the others needed cut loose.


You want to have multiple lottery pick seasons, but I’m pretty sure that’s not Pokey’s vision.

But her ineptitude to get something, anything for assets doesn’t really bode well for the future.



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PostPosted: 05/17/18 11:38 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
Might as well start Mitchell and Vivians since you're going to lose anyway ...


100 percent agree. Trial by fire, but get them early minutes and experience, so they can adjust to the speed of the game and reach their respective potential.


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PostPosted: 05/17/18 11:49 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
Shades wrote:
I’m fairly sure Pokey let Coleman go because she felt she had a Day 1 starter in Vivians. If indeed Gwathmey is starting over Vivians, that’s kind of a bitter pill to swallow.


Not at all. This team is planning for the future, and Coleman isn't part of it. Same with Larkins. Dupree is good enough to keep around and help the team transition - the others needed cut loose.


You want to have multiple lottery pick seasons, but I’m pretty sure that’s not Pokey’s vision.

But her ineptitude to get something, anything for assets doesn’t really bode well for the future.


Coleman clearing waivers should tell you there was nothing to get for her. Just because one team doesn't wants to get rid of a player doesn't mean anyone is willing to give something up for her.

If you think they had so much value why aren't you saying what you think Minnesota should have given up to get them?


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