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PostPosted: 04/25/18 8:17 am    ::: Commission on College Basketball Reply Reply with quote

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The commission offered harsh assessments of toothless NCAA enforcement, as well as the shady summer basketball circuit that includes AAU leagues and brings together agents, apparel companies and coaches looking to profit on teenage prodigies. It called the environment surrounding college basketball “a toxic mix of perverse incentives to cheat,” and said responsibility for the current mess goes all the way up to university presidents.


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The group recommended the NCAA have more involvement with players before they get to college and less involvement with enforcement. It also acknowledged the NCAA will need help to make some changes and defended its amateurism model, saying paying players a salary isn’t the answer.

“The goal should not be to turn college basketball into another professional league,” the commission wrote in its report.


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The overarching message to those in college athletics: Take responsibility for problems you have created.


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Instead of show cause orders, which are meant to limit a coach’s ability to work in college sports after breaking NCAA rules, the report called for lifetime bans. The commission also said coaches and administrators should be contractually obligated comply with NCAA investigations.


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The NCAA should require greater transparency of the finances of what it called non-scholastic basketball events and ban its coaches from attending those that do not comply with more stringent vetting, the report said. Such a ban could wipe out AAU events that have flourished in showcasing future talent.


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“When those institutions and those responsible for leading them short-circuit rules, ethics and norms in order to achieve on-court success, they alone are responsible,” the commission wrote. “Too often, these individuals hide behind the NCAA when they are the ones most responsible for the degraded state of intercollegiate athletics, in general, and college basketball in particular.”




http://www.wishtv.com/news/local-news/hoops-panel-says-ban-cheats-end-1-and-done/1139975982



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PostPosted: 04/25/18 9:16 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Here is the entire report:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4445900-Commission-on-College-Basketball-Report-and.html
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PostPosted: 04/25/18 10:10 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

If implemented for the recruiting period, the administrative demands on tournament organizers and club teams are going to be huge -- and onerous. All of a sudden, it will be like running a full-on business.

I would suspect the financial system will have to be set up a CPA, and then run by a bookkeeper -- which, I would guess, will lead to fewer event organizers and fewer elite teams. (I've gone through this kind of thing, and it's much, much more complex than it appears. It took us years to get our non-profit status completely under control.)



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PostPosted: 04/25/18 10:31 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

There is a lot more that the NCAA needs to get right.


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PostPosted: 04/25/18 10:36 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Condoleezza Rice's Useless Commission On College Basketball Gives Useless Recommendations

https://deadspin.com/condoleezza-rices-useless-commission-on-college-basketb-1825527239

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a largely disappointing, half-hearted attempt at pushing back the inevitable decay of the amateurism model



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PostPosted: 04/25/18 1:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I never understand statements like "the inevitable decay of the amateurism model" when that model is going nowhere for the 99% of college athletes who participate in something other than P5 FB or MBB.

Inevitably people write articles like this as if no one plays anything other than MBB or FB and plays nowhere other than top 25 programs, and totally ignores that their complaints have no bearing on any of the other athletes playing other sports or playing at Div 2 or 3 or NAiA schools, with no TV and in front of dozens, not thousands, of spectators, paid for or heavily subsidized by University fees, tuition, contributions, and football TV revenue.

The Commission will be at least some minor "success" if it results in the NBA and NBAPA (and WNBA while they're at it) getting rid of the protectionist "must play one year of college" rule and let kids go pro when they choose to do so.

There's no chance they're going to clean up AAU basketball anytime soon. Too much money in play and too many hands in the cookie jar.


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PostPosted: 04/25/18 2:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I never understand statements like "the inevitable decay of the amateurism model" when that model is going nowhere for the 99% of college athletes who participate in something other than P5 FB or MBB.

Inevitably people write articles like this as if no one plays anything other than MBB or FB and plays nowhere other than top 25 programs, and totally ignores that their complaints have no bearing on any of the other athletes playing other sports or playing at Div 2 or 3 or NAiA schools, with no TV and in front of dozens, not thousands, of spectators, paid for or heavily subsidized by University fees, tuition, contributions, and football TV revenue.

The Commission will be at least some minor "success" if it results in the NBA and NBAPA (and WNBA while they're at it) getting rid of the protectionist "must play one year of college" rule and let kids go pro when they choose to do so.

There's no chance they're going to clean up AAU basketball anytime soon. Too much money in play and too many hands in the cookie jar.


You may well be right, but if the proposed rules go into effect, only a few clubs -- those that already have power and influence -- would be able to run tournaments, which is where the money is. It may that small group of clubs could help push along the overall reform.

Or not ...



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PostPosted: 04/25/18 3:01 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Just like any monopoly they will also be able to push their agendas.


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PostPosted: 04/25/18 6:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Whose commission is this? Something set up by the NCAA? Dept of Education? Someone else?


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PostPosted: 04/25/18 6:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

FrozenLVFan wrote:
Whose commission is this? Something set up by the NCAA? Dept of Education? Someone else?


NCAA created it in response to the FBI investigation and the scandal around N Carolina (though they didn’t call that by name)


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