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How much of the 2018 NC game did you watch?
All of it
66%
 66%  [ 50 ]
Some of it
26%
 26%  [ 20 ]
None of it
6%
 6%  [ 5 ]
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PostPosted: 04/01/18 9:59 pm    ::: How much of the 2018 NC game did you watch? Reply Reply with quote
This is the third year I've run this poll. I'll post comparative results in a week or so.
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PostPosted: 04/02/18 3:13 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
The last time a final four and national championship was this entertaining was 2008. Yes way back when Parker and Fowles was playing college ball.



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PostPosted: 04/02/18 4:13 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
None, guess NC's can be bought Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 04/02/18 9:15 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
I watched all of the game (and the Final Four contests).
I'll view the replay and trophy presentation later today. Thank you ESPN3.
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PostPosted: 04/02/18 10:03 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
All of the Final Four.
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PostPosted: 04/02/18 10:36 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
I didn't watch any of the final, because I was in the middle of a four-hour drive home from Easter with my family. I checked the score pretty constantly though.
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PostPosted: 04/02/18 11:08 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
All of the Final Four. This was possibly the best Final Four in YEARS.



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PostPosted: 04/02/18 12:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
I'm in the process of moving so I was checking the scores as I was driving down the highway. Will have to catch the replay because all three games were excellent.



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PostPosted: 04/02/18 12:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
All of the final four. Very entertaining games and a crazy exciting finish.
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PostPosted: 04/02/18 4:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Most of it. It's hard to go to the neighbor's for an invited Easter dinner and say, "I'm done now. Let's turn on the TV!"
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PostPosted: 04/02/18 4:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
I watched all 4 games but was very disappointed with the outcome of the Title game! Felt so bad for Miss State because they had that game up to the last few seconds. Heartbreaker.
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PostPosted: 04/02/18 4:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
bballgrl wrote:
I watched all 4 games but was very disappointed with the outcome of the Title game! Felt so bad for Miss State because they had that game up to the last few seconds. Heartbreaker.


There were four games?



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PostPosted: 04/02/18 4:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
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bballgrl wrote:
I watched all 4 games but was very disappointed with the outcome of the Title game! Felt so bad for Miss State because they had that game up to the last few seconds. Heartbreaker.


There were four games?



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PostPosted: 04/02/18 5:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
pilight wrote:
bballgrl wrote:
I watched all 4 games but was very disappointed with the outcome of the Title game! Felt so bad for Miss State because they had that game up to the last few seconds. Heartbreaker.


There were four games?


I demand they change the name of the Final Four to the Final Three, because I have no idea how it can be called the Final Four when there are three games, which would end the confusion.
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PostPosted: 04/02/18 5:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
I watched the second semi final and the championship game live. I couldn’t watch the first one because of church, but I did watch a replay on my phone. Although I have always like to Notre Dame, I also like Mississippi State. I was cheering for all of Notre Dame except for Jessica Shepherd because she cheated the process to get eligible this year. There were many girls that were as deserving or WAY more deserving of a waiver that did not get one because they didn’t have a high-priced lawyer like she did....
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PostPosted: 04/02/18 5:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Hoopsmom wrote:
I watched the second semi final and the championship game live. I couldn’t watch the first one because of church, but I did watch a replay on my phone. Although I have always like to Notre Dame, I also like Mississippi State. I was cheering for all of Notre Dame except for Jessica Shepherd because she cheated the process to get eligible this year. There were many girls that were as deserving or WAY more deserving of a waiver that did not get one because they didn’t have a high-priced lawyer like she did....


Its over , shes a champion. Wont change ever , so no point on making this relevant . They're not going to say she was an import strip her title away or she does not get a ring because she transferred Laughing



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PostPosted: 04/02/18 5:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
I watched all, because it's the last of WCBB until later this year.
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PostPosted: 04/02/18 5:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
WNBA 09 wrote:
pilight wrote:
bballgrl wrote:
I watched all 4 games but was very disappointed with the outcome of the Title game! Felt so bad for Miss State because they had that game up to the last few seconds. Heartbreaker.


There were four games?



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OPPS, my bad, I mean all 4 teams. Give me a break I am still in shock!
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PostPosted: 04/02/18 6:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
bballgrl wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
pilight wrote:
bballgrl wrote:
I watched all 4 games but was very disappointed with the outcome of the Title game! Felt so bad for Miss State because they had that game up to the last few seconds. Heartbreaker.


There were four games?



Shocked Shocked Thought i was the only one missing something here !


OPPS, my bad, I mean all 4 teams. Give me a break I am still in shock!


It could be interesting to see a fourth game between the other two to determine a 3rd and 4th place team.



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PostPosted: 04/02/18 7:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
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xcept for Jessica Shepherd because she cheated the process to get eligible this year. There were many girls that were as deserving or WAY more deserving of a waiver that did not get one because they didn’t have a high-priced lawyer like she did....


I've seen a couple of rumors about this lawyer (since I've so far seen nothing to back up the claim, I'm going with rumor). Is there anything, anywhere that states for a fact that she/her parents did hire one?

And so what if she did get a lawyer? That doesn't mean that she cheated. Rolling Eyes

The NCAA has a waiver process that is accessible to everyone. If a player/coach doesn't take advantage of it, that's not on Jessica Shepherd. If the NCAA decides something different for another player requesting a waiver than they did for Jessica, that's also not on Jessica.

I'd venture to say that NO ONE here knows what information was presented in her request, or how it was presented, to the NCAA that they used to determine her immediately eligibility. All of this pettiness is Rolling Eyes .



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PostPosted: 04/02/18 7:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
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xcept for Jessica Shepherd because she cheated the process to get eligible this year. There were many girls that were as deserving or WAY more deserving of a waiver that did not get one because they didn’t have a high-priced lawyer like she did....


I've seen a couple of rumors about this lawyer (since I've so far seen nothing to back up the claim, I'm going with rumor). Is there anything, anywhere that states for a fact that she/her parents did hire one?

And so what if she did get a lawyer? That doesn't mean that she cheated. Rolling Eyes

The NCAA has a waiver process that is accessible to everyone. If a player/coach doesn't take advantage of it, that's not on Jessica Shepherd. If the NCAA decides something different for another player requesting a waiver than they did for Jessica, that's also not on Jessica.

I'd venture to say that NO ONE here knows what information was presented in her request, or how it was presented, to the NCAA that they used to determine her immediately eligibility. All of this pettiness is Rolling Eyes .


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PostPosted: 04/02/18 7:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
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xcept for Jessica Shepherd because she cheated the process to get eligible this year. There were many girls that were as deserving or WAY more deserving of a waiver that did not get one because they didn’t have a high-priced lawyer like she did....


I've seen a couple of rumors about this lawyer (since I've so far seen nothing to back up the claim, I'm going with rumor). Is there anything, anywhere that states for a fact that she/her parents did hire one?

And so what if she did get a lawyer? That doesn't mean that she cheated. Rolling Eyes

The NCAA has a waiver process that is accessible to everyone. If a player/coach doesn't take advantage of it, that's not on Jessica Shepherd. If the NCAA decides something different for another player requesting a waiver than they did for Jessica, that's also not on Jessica.

I'd venture to say that NO ONE here knows what information was presented in her request, or how it was presented, to the NCAA that they used to determine her immediately eligibility. All of this pettiness is Rolling Eyes .


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PostPosted: 04/02/18 8:42 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Everyone’s whining about Shepard, but there’s a couple of things they may not be considering. First of all, she’s not the only high-profile player who transferred and got to play right away (also with a lawyer in the picture, although maybe not so prominently). Chatrice White got to play immediately for Florida State. Of course that doesn’t count because they didn’t make it to the FF so people stopped being snarky about her. Get over it already.

My personal opinion is that Shepard is a cow and McGraw managed to turn her into a damn decent player. However, there is no reason whatsoever to believe that B1G COY Amy Williams couldn’t have done the same thing. The only difference is that at Notre Dame she is surrounded by better players.



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PostPosted: 04/02/18 9:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Hoopsmom wrote:
I watched the second semi final and the championship game live. I couldn’t watch the first one because of church, but I did watch a replay on my phone. Although I have always like to Notre Dame, I also like Mississippi State. I was cheering for all of Notre Dame except for Jessica Shepherd because she cheated the process to get eligible this year. There were many girls that were as deserving or WAY more deserving of a waiver that did not get one because they didn’t have a high-priced lawyer like she did....


And I suppose you've seen every one of the applications and are in full command of all information necessary to determine that "There were many girls that were as deserving or WAY more deserving of a waiver that did not get one ".

Go ahead, give us a complete list, name by name, of every player "WAY more deserving", and for each one provide a full explanation of exactly WHY they are "WAY more deserving". If you can't do that, I suggest you just drop the subject. Either that or get a job in the White House press office. They like people there who just make up shit.

It's just pathetic some of the totally ignorant trash that's been spouted here about Shepard.
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PostPosted: 04/02/18 11:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
We don't have any idea if expert lawyering got Shepard the waiver. It also could have been a payoff - lawyers like her father are also quite rich.
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PostPosted: 04/03/18 12:10 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
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We don't have any idea if expert lawyering got Shepard the waiver. It also could have been a payoff - lawyers like her father are also quite rich.


Just when I thought the Shepard trolling couldn't get any dumber. . . .
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PostPosted: 04/03/18 12:18 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
SpaceJunkie wrote:
pilight wrote:
bballgrl wrote:
I watched all 4 games but was very disappointed with the outcome of the Title game! Felt so bad for Miss State because they had that game up to the last few seconds. Heartbreaker.


There were four games?


I demand they change the name of the Final Four to the Final Three, because I have no idea how it can be called the Final Four when there are three games, which would end the confusion.


Did they used to have a consolation game between the Semifinal losing teams? I think the old Men's Tournament did (or maybe that was the NIT).
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PostPosted: 04/03/18 12:35 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Hoopsmom wrote:
I watched the second semi final and the championship game live. I couldn’t watch the first one because of church, but I did watch a replay on my phone. Although I have always like to Notre Dame, I also like Mississippi State. I was cheering for all of Notre Dame except for Jessica Shepherd because she cheated the process to get eligible this year. There were many girls that were as deserving or WAY more deserving of a waiver that did not get one because they didn’t have a high-priced lawyer like she did....


Okay, here is what I could find publicly that could be related to this topic.

First, a list of various other players who got immediate eligibility:

Letitcia Romero (From KSU as Freshman in 2013-14 to FSU as sophomore in 2014-15)
Chantrice White (From Illinois as sophomore (2015-16) to FSU as junior (2016-17)
Natalie Romeo (From Nebraska (stick a pin in this part, I'll get back to it below) as a sophomore (2015-16) to Washington as a junior (2016-17)).

There might be others, but these are three that I've found listed. Notice one from Nebraska, like Shepard? Well...

http://journalstar.com/sports/huskers/womens-basketball/yori-resigns-following-athletic-department-investigation/article_3266e814-fb41-11e5-a21f-affa8006eb5c.html

Yori resigns following athletic department investigation

A source with knowledge of the situation, speaking on condition of anonymity, told the Journal Star more than 10 players from the 2015-16 team, along with some support staff members, approached Nebraska athletic department administrators in early February with concerns about Yori’s treatment of players.

...

As for the player mistreatment allegations, they included Yori bullying, intimidating and overtraining players while showing a general disregard for players’ well-being, sources said. As part of a review of the women’s basketball program, players met individually with Nebraska’s compliance department, which isn’t normal procedure, one source said.


Hmm! Yori, the Nebraska coach during Romeo's sophomore and Shepard's freshman seasons was accused of poor treatment of players. One player (Romeo) transferred right afterwards and was granted a waiver by the NCAA. Another (Shepard) tried to stick with the program with a new coach, then decided to transfer and was granted a waiver.

I recall reading somewhere that one of the reasons that the Shepard request was approved was because Nebraska went to bat for her over it.

Think the stuff in the above article might have had something to do with the NCAA's decision? Maybe?




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PostPosted: 04/03/18 5:48 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Chatrice White was Illinois, not Indiana, and IIRC her transfer was in the wake of the Bollant scandal (because he got fired, again IIRC, not because of what he did).



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PostPosted: 04/03/18 7:09 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Leticia Romero was granted a waiver of the full year sit-out after she had sat out the fall semester at FSU, missing the first 13 games.

http://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12418767/leticia-romero-finds-right-fit-florida-state-seminoles
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PostPosted: 04/03/18 7:28 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
I can't believe anyone is small-minded enough to call Jessica Shepard a cheater or accuse her of bribery for applying for a waiver. And given that Muffet said it was a hardship waiver for personal reasons, none of us have enough knowledge to debate the application. If the NCAA didn't think it was a valid request, all they had to do was to deny it. If you've got issues, then direct them at the NCAA's waiver process and not this young woman.

The mods should delete the posts with the name-calling and libelous accusations.
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The mods should delete the posts with the name-calling and libelous accusations.


That would be draconian, and possibly Orwellian.

But it's also really tempting.



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PostPosted: 04/03/18 9:34 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
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Leticia Romero was granted a waiver of the full year sit-out after she had sat out the fall semester at FSU, missing the first 13 games.

http://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12418767/leticia-romero-finds-right-fit-florida-state-seminoles


And that one was because people were outraged that Kansas State was following NCAA rules in regards to her transfer.
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CBiebel wrote:
Letitcia Romero (From KSU as Freshman in 2013-14 to FSU as sophomore in 2014-15)
Chantrice White (From Indiana as sophomore (2015-16) to FSU as junior (2016-17)
Natalie Romeo (From Nebraska (stick a pin in this part, I'll get back to it below) as a sophomore (2015-16) to Washington as a junior (2016-17)).


Hmm, what do these players have in common that doesn't apply to Azura Stevens



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Hmm, what do these players have in common that doesn't apply to Azura Stevens


JPM is still the head coach at Duke, while the other players' first head coaches were fired or ended up getting fired? Smile
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Three chose to apply to the NCAA for waivers, one didn't?
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{edited: I had a post here related to the digression}

You know what? Fuck it. Mod fiat. Either y'all stick closely to the original topic- which was about watching the championship game- or this topic is getting locked. I am tired of this nonsense.



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GlennMacGrady wrote:
Leticia Romero was granted a waiver of the full year sit-out after she had sat out the fall semester at FSU, missing the first 13 games.

http://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12418767/leticia-romero-finds-right-fit-florida-state-seminoles


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Chatrice White was Illinois, not Indiana, and IIRC her transfer was in the wake of the Bollant scandal (because he got fired, again IIRC, not because of what he did).


I knew that. I don't know why I typed "Indiana." I corrected it now.
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PUmatty wrote:
GlennMacGrady wrote:
Leticia Romero was granted a waiver of the full year sit-out after she had sat out the fall semester at FSU, missing the first 13 games.

http://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12418767/leticia-romero-finds-right-fit-florida-state-seminoles


Response edited to comply with the topic of the thread thereby hopefully preventing the thread from getting locked up.


Sorry Queenie. I just thought to try to get some information out there that people either didn't realize or ignored.
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There are days when I miss bballfan2005...


Those must be bad days ...



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