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Who wins the dance?
MSSt
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Notre Dame
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PostPosted: 04/01/18 9:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Congrats to the Irish. What an amazing year.



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PostPosted: 04/01/18 10:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Congratulations Notre Dame on your championship win. Vic Schaefer got a head coaching gig for helping Texas A & M win their national championship. I will like to see Carol Owens or Niele Ivey get offered a head coaching job. I know that both of these women have been on the Notre Dame bench long enough. They both have earned the right to head coach at some Division One university.


Owens and Cunningham were already head coaches. Ivey has been offered HC jobs. They are on this staff by choice.


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PostPosted: 04/01/18 10:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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That was more of a foul on mabray lol


Should have called that foul no question


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PostPosted: 04/01/18 10:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I was hoping for ND to win but that FOUL at that critical moment and not called and then to add insult to injury, calling a foul on the same team that got screwed out of the a call a second before....

not good....

tremendous shot by ND to win, but there will always be a question about that non call.....too bad....when the refs needed to be on their toes, in a critical moment, they failed....


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Notre Dame's 61 points is the fewest scored by any winning team in the tournament



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PostPosted: 04/01/18 10:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Jess Shephard is a baller!



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PostPosted: 04/01/18 10:42 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

elsie wrote:
I was hoping for ND to win but that FOUL at that critical moment and not called and then to add insult to injury, calling a foul on the same team that got screwed out of the a call a second before....

not good....

tremendous shot by ND to win, but there will always be a question about that non call.....too bad....when the refs needed to be on their toes, in a critical moment, they failed....


There won't ever be any "questions" except those that are whined about every year by bitter fans who don't like the team that won.

Miss St had a 13 pt halftime lead. At the end of 3Q the game was tied. Try real hard to concoct a lame excuse for that epic collapse.


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PostPosted: 04/01/18 10:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
Jess Shephard is a baller!


If McCowan, or Mercedes Russel for that matter, had 25% of the interior footwork and passing ability of Shepard, they'd be superstars.

Shepard 8/10 for 19 pts. McCowen 7/19 for 18 pts. Who woulda guessed those scoring lines?


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PostPosted: 04/01/18 10:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Just watching the MSST part of the press conference.

Impressed with Vic. Nice words about ND.

But the thing that has really stood out to me is that when the players got up to go to the locker room, he stood up. Are all male coaches that gentlemanly?



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PostPosted: 04/01/18 11:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I wanted ND to win, or didn't you read that?....still, that was definitely a foul and it not being called and instead of MSU shooting fouls, ND got the ball....

it is what it is....stop believing otherwise....

ND had a hard path and they kept going....good on them....congratulations....

but it was a foul....it was not called....


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PostPosted: 04/01/18 11:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

...and MsSt wouldn't even have been in the game had the foul by McGowan against Hines Allen been called at the end of regulation in the previous game. Like I said before, you can always find what ifs. Why bother? My coaches always said that it was up to us to make sure that the refs didn't decide the game, and I still believe that. MsST had lots of ways to win this game, among them making FTs, and they didn't do any of them, so the call or lack thereof at the end of the game was what it was. Yeah, I complain about the refs too and hate it when EOG situations come down to a ref's call, but the truth is that it's always the case that the loser could have done something earlier to make that bad call irrelevant.



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PostPosted: 04/01/18 11:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Arike is my favorite player in the class of 19. She has tons of "It" factor. Two game winning shots one in the semis one in the finals "legendary"!

(Goes without saying I would love to see her in a Liberty uni next summer.)


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PostPosted: 04/01/18 11:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ex-Ref wrote:
Just watching the MSST part of the press conference.

Impressed with Vic. Nice words about ND.

But the thing that has really stood out to me is that when the players got up to go to the locker room, he stood up. Are all male coaches that gentlemanly?


I can't think of many who are... he's a good guy.


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PostPosted: 04/02/18 1:23 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

elsie wrote:
I was hoping for ND to win but that FOUL at that critical moment and not called and then to add insult to injury, calling a foul on the same team that got screwed out of the a call a second before....

not good....

tremendous shot by ND to win, but there will always be a question about that non call.....too bad....when the refs needed to be on their toes, in a critical moment, they failed....


Well, MSU actually wanted that second foul called (they probably wanted the first "foul" called more). If it hadn't been called, ND would have had an easy layup.

Don't just remember the foul. Remember the game situation.


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PostPosted: 04/02/18 1:30 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Just wanted to post great game MSU. It was a hard fought Irish win that came down to the wire.


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PostPosted: 04/02/18 1:33 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Biggest possible choke for the officials. One swallows their whistle and another makes a call for the Irish.




Was that really a call "for the Irish?" If the other one also swallowed his whistle, then ND would have had an easy layup. That was a foul that MSU wanted.


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PostPosted: 04/02/18 2:59 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
Rock Hard wrote:
Congratulations Notre Dame on your championship win. Vic Schaefer got a head coaching gig for helping Texas A & M win their national championship. I will like to see Carol Owens or Niele Ivey get offered a head coaching job. I know that both of these women have been on the Notre Dame bench long enough. They both have earned the right to head coach at some Division One university.


Owens and Cunningham were already head coaches. Ivey has been offered HC jobs. They are on this staff by choice.

If an Athletic Director offers enough money it is impossible to say no. But, if they would rather be a sidekick than the HNIC then go right ahead and do your thing. Laughing



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PostPosted: 04/02/18 7:28 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

CBiebel wrote:
linkster wrote:
Biggest possible choke for the officials. One swallows their whistle and another makes a call for the Irish.




Was that really a call "for the Irish?" If the other one also swallowed his whistle, then ND would have had an easy layup. That was a foul that MSU wanted.




I think the foul MS wanted was the foul on the Mabrey tackle...That decided the game


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PostPosted: 04/02/18 7:46 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Wait, are people here actually bitching the fifth McCowan foul? The one that prevented a breakaway lay-up? That seemed like a good call to me, and I feel for McCowan being presented with, essentially, Sophie's choice- do you foul out to allow OT, knowing that your team needs you to have a chance to win in OT, or do you not foul and allow the potential game-winning basket?

Now, if you want to argue that Vivians was trying to foul Ogunbowale before she got the shot off, I'm there with you.



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PostPosted: 04/02/18 8:45 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Not sure that MSST really wanted that foul by TM. Fouling at that time gave ND 3 seconds on the clock.

Would MSST have had more time if she had let the play go on? How long to throw the ball and score the lay-up? Even if there had only been .5 left, they would have taken their TO, got the ball at the hash mark and still had TM on the floor.



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PostPosted: 04/02/18 8:53 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Rock Hard wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
Rock Hard wrote:
Congratulations Notre Dame on your championship win. Vic Schaefer got a head coaching gig for helping Texas A & M win their national championship. I will like to see Carol Owens or Niele Ivey get offered a head coaching job. I know that both of these women have been on the Notre Dame bench long enough. They both have earned the right to head coach at some Division One university.


Owens and Cunningham were already head coaches. Ivey has been offered HC jobs. They are on this staff by choice.

If an Athletic Director offers enough money it is impossible to say no. But, if they would rather be a sidekick than the HNIC then go right ahead and do your thing. Laughing


Chris Daly has been Geno's assistant for, what is it, 32 years? She's certainly had plenty of opportunities to get her own team. Sometimes people like their current job situation, co-workers, environment, security, etc.


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PostPosted: 04/02/18 11:12 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Jess Shephard is a baller!


If McCowan, or Mercedes Russel for that matter, had 25% of the interior footwork and passing ability of Shepard, they'd be superstars.

Shepard 8/10 for 19 pts. McCowen 7/19 for 18 pts. Who woulda guessed those scoring lines?


Agreed Totally. McCowan mixed with Shephard makes the perfect prospect.



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PostPosted: 04/02/18 12:01 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

my 2 cents

good decision for TM to foul

bad non-call on Mabrey-- any other time of the game it would have been called

a foul's a foul

but hey-- hard to argue with that shot by Arike wow


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PostPosted: 04/02/18 12:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
Rock Hard wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
Rock Hard wrote:
Congratulations Notre Dame on your championship win. Vic Schaefer got a head coaching gig for helping Texas A & M win their national championship. I will like to see Carol Owens or Niele Ivey get offered a head coaching job. I know that both of these women have been on the Notre Dame bench long enough. They both have earned the right to head coach at some Division One university.


Owens and Cunningham were already head coaches. Ivey has been offered HC jobs. They are on this staff by choice.

If an Athletic Director offers enough money it is impossible to say no. But, if they would rather be a sidekick than the HNIC then go right ahead and do your thing. Laughing


Chris Daly has been Geno's assistant for, what is it, 32 years? She's certainly had plenty of opportunities to get her own team. Sometimes people like their current job situation, co-workers, environment, security, etc.


When you get a quality program that appreciates their staff, it gives those coaches the ability to wait for just the right job (in their opinion) to open. McGuff and Tsipis found positiions they liked, just like on Geno's staff Elliott and Cardoza did.

I'd like to see Ivey and in particular Owens get head coaching jobs they want, if they want, but they are certainly in a good spot, that's for sure.


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PostPosted: 04/02/18 12:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

let me say quite loudly

CONGRATULATIONS


ArtBest23, CBiebel and any other Notre Dame fans, it was a special season. Enjoy the rewards. Well deserved.


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tfan wrote:
Achonwa and the other alums celebrating.



I love pictures like these. It shows how important the program and coaches are to those that went through it.


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What a final game. Hate to see any team lose in these kinda of gms cause both team left all out on the court.Keep your heads up MS.
Refs really should have let the 1 sec ago on the clock go it looked wrong to have MS come back after that heartbreaking made shot.

Kara Lawson poker face is unmatched lol.

Arike wow what a shot. It was from the same spot has that last gm winner just on the opposite side of the court. That shot went in like a rainbrow Shocked.She reminds of Chelsea Gray.

Congrats ND
After all they dealt with this season they got the main prize at the end.I would love to see a 30 for 30 on this team.I was impressed with Shepard footwook and the fact she didnt play scare against TM.

Vivian had herself a good gm. I wouldn't be shock to see her go top 5 in the draft.


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Awesome game. Smile

Not necessarily the *prettiest* ever played, but LOADED with Grit, Gutz 'n Glory.

And. It wasn't UConn. Life is good. Cool



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goforit77 wrote:
CBiebel wrote:
linkster wrote:
Biggest possible choke for the officials. One swallows their whistle and another makes a call for the Irish.




Was that really a call "for the Irish?" If the other one also swallowed his whistle, then ND would have had an easy layup. That was a foul that MSU wanted.




I think the foul MS wanted was the foul on the Mabrey tackle...That decided the game


The whole game was reffed with the "let them play" philosophy. Stuff like that was let go (by both teams) throughout the game. It was a very roughly played game.




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threadkiller1201 wrote:
my 2 cents

good decision for TM to foul

bad non-call on Mabrey-- any other time of the game it would have been called

a foul's a foul
w


I'm not so sure. I spent a lot of the game saying "Wow, that's not a foul?" There was a lot of stuff that wasn't called, but at least it was evenly not called on both sides.

That being said, the stat of the game was FTs, and unlike what some fans complain about in other games, the number of attempts was even:

10-17 vs 15-17. That's 5 points right there. Make more of your free-throws and the non-call situation becomes moot.




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When you get a quality program that appreciates their staff, it gives those coaches the ability to wait for just the right job (in their opinion) to open. McGuff and Tsipis found positiions they liked, just like on Geno's staff Elliott and Cardoza did.

I'd like to see Ivey and in particular Owens get head coaching jobs they want, if they want, but they are certainly in a good spot, that's for sure.


And Coquese Washington.

Since Owens and Cunningham were both HCs, they probably understand pretty well whether they want to try that again. I would think Ivey would be most likely to move.


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ArtBest23 wrote:
dtsnms wrote:


When you get a quality program that appreciates their staff, it gives those coaches the ability to wait for just the right job (in their opinion) to open. McGuff and Tsipis found positiions they liked, just like on Geno's staff Elliott and Cardoza did.

I'd like to see Ivey and in particular Owens get head coaching jobs they want, if they want, but they are certainly in a good spot, that's for sure.


And Coquese Washington.

Since Owens and Cunningham were both HCs, they probably understand pretty well whether they want to try that again. I would think Ivey would be most likely to move.


I hope Niele stays put. When Purdue finally makes a move, she is at the top of my wish list.


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Rock Hard wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
Rock Hard wrote:
Congratulations Notre Dame on your championship win. Vic Schaefer got a head coaching gig for helping Texas A & M win their national championship. I will like to see Carol Owens or Niele Ivey get offered a head coaching job. I know that both of these women have been on the Notre Dame bench long enough. They both have earned the right to head coach at some Division One university.


Owens and Cunningham were already head coaches. Ivey has been offered HC jobs. They are on this staff by choice.

If an Athletic Director offers enough money it is impossible to say no. But, if they would rather be a sidekick than the HNIC then go right ahead and do your thing. Laughing


It think part of the Ivey decision on moving on is both the level of the program and the fact that her son is in HS.

A recent article did mention that Owens and Ivey would like to be head coaches if the right position opened up.

I think Cunningham might figure that the assistant job at ND right now allows the best in work/family balance with her very young children.


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PUmatty wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
dtsnms wrote:


When you get a quality program that appreciates their staff, it gives those coaches the ability to wait for just the right job (in their opinion) to open. McGuff and Tsipis found positiions they liked, just like on Geno's staff Elliott and Cardoza did.

I'd like to see Ivey and in particular Owens get head coaching jobs they want, if they want, but they are certainly in a good spot, that's for sure.


And Coquese Washington.

Since Owens and Cunningham were both HCs, they probably understand pretty well whether they want to try that again. I would think Ivey would be most likely to move.


I hope Niele stays put. When Purdue finally makes a move, she is at the top of my wish list.


Ivey at Purdue sounds really scary...

Although it would be another step in the McGraw coaching tree takeover of the Big 10... Wink


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Two down, one to go... Wink


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dtsnms wrote:
let me say quite loudly

CONGRATULATIONS


ArtBest23, CBiebel and any other Notre Dame fans, it was a special season. Enjoy the rewards. Well deserved.


Thank you.

I have to admit, this was not a season that I considered this a likely outcome, after it was announced Turner was sitting out the year, and especially after Vaughn was also lost. It's been a remarkable ride.


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ArtBest23 wrote:
dtsnms wrote:
let me say quite loudly

CONGRATULATIONS


ArtBest23, CBiebel and any other Notre Dame fans, it was a special season. Enjoy the rewards. Well deserved.


Thank you.

I have to admit, this was not a season that I considered this a likely outcome, after it was announced Turner was sitting out the year, and especially after Vaughn was also lost. It's been a remarkable ride.


I see ND making a strong case for Back To Backs. Next year's team will be even better with the returns and great additions with the Recruiting class. 2 AA guards looked very very nice the other day. Irish should be pre-season #1.



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When Vic Schaefer was offered a head coaching job at a Power Five University he jumped on that opportunity. When Dawn Staley was offered a head coaching job at a Power Five University she jumped at that opportunity. I just would like to see some of the African-American women assistant coaches that helped develop these top four schools basketball programs get offered a head coaching job at one of the top conferences in the country.



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At the game and it was even worse - bad call at a time that gave the winning shot to ND. And yes there were lots of bad calls through out the FF, in fact the free throw count 23 for ND and 6 for Uconn, was the only difference in the game as stats go. And the final missed call on McCowan in the Louisville game. But here is the deal the ref game needs to be upgraded, this year has been the worst I can remember. And yes that is a shame because thats what I will remember from all the games. Plus did not really like Columbus, so dreary and wish I had gone to the guys as I usually alternate according to who is in.

The other thing that bothered me was the ND players who are overweight and not particularly pleasing to watch, has anyone questioned whether this could be a reason for so many ACLs? Plus The whole whining about having ACLs when they were gift wrapped a post by the NCAA, shouldn't whine when the corrupt NCAA comes baring gifts.

The NCAA needs to be overhauled mostly because of all the crap from the guys side but there is also stuff on the womens and coaches like Rueck, Trakh, Staley and even Uconn have a legit gripe when they don't pass equal transfer rules for players. That was the biggest complaint I got from a lot of coaches.

Whoever posted about Mabrey was spot on she is a punk and not who I would want my grandkids watching, whines at the refs constantly, cusses at the refs, dives on plays away from the ball, gets away with a lot of hands on as she doesn't move her feet, a shame as the other ND players are quite different.

Probably thought any of the 3 other teams deserved the title more and so I am expecting being cussed out by a certain poster who has gotten away with it in earlier posts and is quite the representative of his team just like one of their players.

Laughing Laughing


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At the game and it was even worse - bad call at a time that gave the winning shot to ND. And yes there were lots of bad calls through out the FF, in fact the free throw count 23 for ND and 6 for Uconn, was the only difference in the game as stats go. And the final missed call on McCowan in the Louisville game. But here is the deal the ref game needs to be upgraded, this year has been the worst I can remember. And yes that is a shame because thats what I will remember from all the games. Plus did not really like Columbus, so dreary and wish I had gone to the guys as I usually alternate according to who is in.

The other thing that bothered me was the ND players who are overweight and not particularly pleasing to watch, has anyone questioned whether this could be a reason for so many ACLs? Plus The whole whining about having ACLs when they were gift wrapped a post by the NCAA, shouldn't whine when the corrupt NCAA comes baring gifts.

The NCAA needs to be overhauled mostly because of all the crap from the guys side but there is also stuff on the womens and coaches like Rueck, Trakh, Staley and even Uconn have a legit gripe when they don't pass equal transfer rules for players. That was the biggest complaint I got from a lot of coaches.

Whoever posted about Mabrey was spot on she is a punk and not who I would want my grandkids watching, whines at the refs constantly, cusses at the refs, dives on plays away from the ball, gets away with a lot of hands on as she doesn't move her feet, a shame as the other ND players are quite different.

Probably thought any of the 3 other teams deserved the title more and so I am expecting being cussed out by a certain poster who has gotten away with it in earlier posts and is quite the representative of his team just like one of their players.

Laughing Laughing


Wow, there are sore losers and then there are people who take it to another level.



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At the game and it was even worse - bad call at a time that gave the winning shot to ND. And yes there were lots of bad calls through out the FF, in fact the free throw count 23 for ND and 6 for Uconn, was the only difference in the game as stats go. And the final missed call on McCowan in the Louisville game. But here is the deal the ref game needs to be upgraded, this year has been the worst I can remember. And yes that is a shame because thats what I will remember from all the games. Plus did not really like Columbus, so dreary and wish I had gone to the guys as I usually alternate according to who is in.

The other thing that bothered me was the ND players who are overweight and not particularly pleasing to watch, has anyone questioned whether this could be a reason for so many ACLs? Plus The whole whining about having ACLs when they were gift wrapped a post by the NCAA, shouldn't whine when the corrupt NCAA comes baring gifts.

The NCAA needs to be overhauled mostly because of all the crap from the guys side but there is also stuff on the womens and coaches like Rueck, Trakh, Staley and even Uconn have a legit gripe when they don't pass equal transfer rules for players. That was the biggest complaint I got from a lot of coaches.

Whoever posted about Mabrey was spot on she is a punk and not who I would want my grandkids watching, whines at the refs constantly, cusses at the refs, dives on plays away from the ball, gets away with a lot of hands on as she doesn't move her feet, a shame as the other ND players are quite different.

Probably thought any of the 3 other teams deserved the title more and so I am expecting being cussed out by a certain poster who has gotten away with it in earlier posts and is quite the representative of his team just like one of their players.

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I, uh... wow.

I mean. I guess someone had to be the reverse of all the "OMG THIS WAS AMAZING" we had. But, wow.

It's not like you're wrong about the refs- I have no fucking idea how Joseph Vazsily was allowed anywhere near the most important game of the season. And as a satellite Michigan fan, I think I'm obligated to agree with trashing anything about Ohio State including their city. Wink

But, wow. Was there anything you did enjoy about your Final Four experience?



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PostPosted: 04/02/18 9:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'm still a bit annoyed about that ending. If not for me being an alumnus of Mississippi State, I would still have wanted them to win because I've hated Notre Dame for 27 years. And will continue to for 27 more. At least.

That said, State did stuff wrong, the refs called the game to make it close instead of calling the game down the middle. Notre Dame hit the shot they needed to hit after they didn't get fouled (State had one to give). All of that combined to erase the big lead and end in heartbreak.

Heck of a two-season run for State, though. I hope they can keep it up.


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PostPosted: 04/02/18 9:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Nixtreefan wrote:

Probably thought any of the 3 other teams deserved the title more and so I am expecting being cussed out by a certain poster who has gotten away with it in earlier posts and is quite the representative of his team just like one of their players.


I assume you're referring to me. But I'm not going to say anything.

Your post says more about you than I ever have or ever could say. And it's not pretty.


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jimmyk wrote:
I'm still a bit annoyed about that ending. If not for me being an alumnus of Mississippi State, I would still have wanted them to win because I've hated Notre Dame for 27 years. And will continue to for 27 more. At least.

That said, State did stuff wrong, the refs called the game to make it close instead of calling the game down the middle. Notre Dame hit the shot they needed to hit after they didn't get fouled (State had one to give). All of that combined to erase the big lead and end in heartbreak.

Heck of a two-season run for State, though. I hope they can keep it up.


It was a great run by State. And as a fan of the team that finished 2nd four of the previous seven years, I know the frustration. But how many teams ever get to the finals? Not many. Miss St should be really proud of what it's done the past two years. We talk about how stratified and top heavy WCBB is. It's a REALLY big deal to break through, take down some of those perrenial top teams, and play in two straight finals. That's as many as Louisville or Duke, for example, have. The foundation for continued success is a good coach, and you seem to have that.

That said, nobody seems to want to talk about the third quarter. That's where a 15 pt lead evaporated in fewer than ten minutes. That's where the game was lost and won. Not in the last minute.


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PostPosted: 04/02/18 10:01 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
Nixtreefan wrote:

Probably thought any of the 3 other teams deserved the title more and so I am expecting being cussed out by a certain poster who has gotten away with it in earlier posts and is quite the representative of his team just like one of their players.


I assume you're referring to me. But I'm not going to say anything.

Your post says more about you than I ever have or ever could say. And it's not pretty.


Either you or me. I think the part where he mentions the ND players' physical appearance might make it me, since I've been critical of one UConn fan's comment about how ND players are "slow and chunky." His suggestions regarding that as the reason for the ACLs is particularly silly given that the players who were injured are the more athletic ones on the team.

The FT thing can easily be explained by style of play. ND drives more to the basket. That is why ND is ranked #8 in the NCAA in Free Throw attempts while UConn is, believe it or not, ranked #149!!! Don't take my word for it. Check it out:

https://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/ranking_summary?academic_year=2018.0&division=1.0&game_high=N&org_id=164&ranking_period=137&sport_code=WBB&team_individual=T


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jimmyk wrote:
I'm still a bit annoyed about that ending. If not for me being an alumnus of Mississippi State, I would still have wanted them to win because I've hated Notre Dame for 27 years. And will continue to for 27 more. At least.

That said, State did stuff wrong, the refs called the game to make it close instead of calling the game down the middle. Notre Dame hit the shot they needed to hit after they didn't get fouled (State had one to give). All of that combined to erase the big lead and end in heartbreak.

Heck of a two-season run for State, though. I hope they can keep it up.


MSU did a great job. I'm not sure how much of a step back they're going to take with so many seniors graduating, but I'm willing to bet that they'll be back before long. Vic Schaefer is a great coach.


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Congrats to all the ND players and coaches. Despite her collegiate career ending due to injury, I'm really happy that Lili Thompson was able to get a ring. Something that wasn't possible at Stanford.


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PostPosted: 04/02/18 10:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Iluvacc wrote:
Congrats to all the ND players and coaches. Despite her collegiate career ending due to injury, I'm really happy that Lili Thompson was able to get a ring. Something that wasn't possible at Stanford.


Yess congrats LiLi!!



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