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UCLA
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PostPosted: 03/24/18 3:10 am    ::: 3 UCLA vs 1 Mississippi St 3/25 7:30 PM ET Reply Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 03/24/18 9:12 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Vic’s gang is the obvious favorite but I’m going to pick UCLA for the upset. Here’s what needs to go down:

-Canada dominates both sides of the ball and takes away any advantage of the Mississippi State point guards
-Because MSU has great guard play off the bench, Dean for UCLA needs to provide solid minutes: defense, steals and a three ball or two - esp if Canada needs a mini break
-Billings takes it to McCowan/moves her away from basket and has a 20/10 game with no foul problems
-For UCLA to win, one of Vivians or McCowan needs to have an off night or McCowan sees limited minutes due to foul trouble
-Drummer needs a solid game and handle the boards for Billings - 10/8 kind of performance
-UCLA needs a third scorer. Likely not Drummer. Hayes or another player needs at least 15-16.

Should be a fun game regardless.


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PostPosted: 03/24/18 10:45 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

UCLA has all the talent, athleticism and ability to win this game. I actually like this match-up maybe the most out of all the 1 seeds for UCLA.

Biggest concern of course if guarding the big girl.

Let's go Bruins! Can't wait for this game.


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PostPosted: 03/24/18 12:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Keeping McCowen off the O boards will be very very important for UCLA.

Hopefully UCLA can push the ball and get Billings (and other bigs) some open looks, I think McCowen will have a hard time chasing Mo up the floor.


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PostPosted: 03/24/18 9:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Reffing on the inside could also play a crucial role. Early foul trouble on either McCowan or Billings and could change the flow of the game.


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PostPosted: 03/24/18 11:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Hoops9092 wrote:
UCLA has all the talent, athleticism and ability to win this game. I actually like this match-up maybe the most out of all the 1 seeds for UCLA.

Biggest concern of course if guarding the big girl.

Let's go Bruins! Can't wait for this game.


Nah louisville or ND would be their best chance IMo


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PostPosted: 03/25/18 7:43 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

blaase22 wrote:
Hoops9092 wrote:
UCLA has all the talent, athleticism and ability to win this game. I actually like this match-up maybe the most out of all the 1 seeds for UCLA.

Biggest concern of course if guarding the big girl.

Let's go Bruins! Can't wait for this game.


Nah louisville or ND would be their best chance IMo


I think this game could be close, or the biggest blowout of the E8. It all depends on how disciplined Canada can play.

Schaeffer>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>over Close.




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PostPosted: 03/25/18 12:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Canada has to go right at McCowan and look for fouls. Don't care if she blocks a few, get the body fouls, get her to the bench.


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PostPosted: 03/25/18 12:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

UCLA has to be ready to try to run them out of the gym. No way McCowan can keep up with them running. And no way they can deal with McCowan in the half court. So it should be an interesting chess match and contrast in style.



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PostPosted: 03/25/18 3:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

sorta OT, but I loved the story they told about the Schaefers yesterday - where they almost lost their son.



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PostPosted: 03/25/18 4:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I expect this game will be close throughout because neither team outclasses the other, talent-wise, unlike in the Lexington massacre.

However, I think MS ST has a coaching advantage. They clearly have the edge in experience.

There's probably a simple barometer- if TM plays her 30 min/game avg, MS ST will likely win.

I look forward to see how Canada is played by Vic and TM by Close, and I wonder how effective William will be. Also, this is probably the best defense UCLA has seen all year, certainly the best since losing to UConn waaaay back before Thanksgiving.

I'll assume the better 3-pt shooting team will win. On the season, that's been MS ST.

Should be a good one.



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PostPosted: 03/25/18 6:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

It's risky to surf too high on the wave of enthusiasm from UCLA's victory over Texas. Soberly analyzed, MSSt has been consistently strong on both offense and defense all season by almost all metrics.

TMac is a galumpher but can be devastating on rebounds, putbacks and other short shots unless she is displaced, bookcased or erased out of the low block position. It will be interesting to see whether the relatively short UCLA has any way of doing that.
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PostPosted: 03/25/18 6:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Never been a UCLA rooter, probably a scar from the Wooden era, but after winning the NIT as freshmen this senior class got sent to UConn's region the last 2 years, a virtual death sentence. They have their chance for the FF this year and I hope they make it there.


This is arguably the best team Miss St has faced all season with the possible exception of S Car. And sometimes getting back to the FF for a second time is harder than the first time.


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PostPosted: 03/25/18 6:42 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

McGowan was a full foot out of bounds when she "saved" the ball. Ref looking right at it. Wtf.



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PostPosted: 03/25/18 6:42 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Mississippi St. can't just jack up 3s all game.



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PostPosted: 03/25/18 6:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

has billings ever looked so small? lol



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PostPosted: 03/25/18 6:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

cthskzfn wrote:
has billings ever looked so small? lol

All the time she's 6'1 IMO.


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PostPosted: 03/25/18 6:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

cthskzfn wrote:
has billings ever looked so small? lol


Billings can't guard McCowan. Completely taking her out of her game.



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PostPosted: 03/25/18 6:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ugh. Crappy start for UCLA since they can't go to man to man.


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PostPosted: 03/25/18 6:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Billings looks 6" shorter than TMac.

Never understood what a "Eurostep" is. I've seriously been watching American ball since the early 50's, and some players were taking big steps and change of direction steps in the paint that entire period.
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PostPosted: 03/25/18 6:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Billings looks 6" shorter than TMac.

Never understood what a "Eurostep" is. I've seriously been watching American ball since the early 50's, and some players were taking big steps and change of direction steps in the paint that entire period.



I'll repeat- I played HS basketball w/ a kid who used that move often. Talking 1974.



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PostPosted: 03/25/18 6:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Canada looks almost as itty bitty as Itty Bitty. Both are effective.
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PostPosted: 03/25/18 7:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Billings needs to relax.She's getting wide shots.


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PostPosted: 03/25/18 7:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Little Vic still hurting from that charge.



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Schaefer was moving into the driver and didn't have her feet planted outside the ard until the shooter was in the air. A bullshit call based on her reputation.




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cthskzfn wrote:
McGowan was a full foot out of bounds when she "saved" the ball. Ref looking right at it. Wtf.


That was a bad miss. Misses like that won't get her to Columbus next weekend!



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McCowan misses way too many easy baskets.



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PostPosted: 03/25/18 7:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Canada may be on the verge of taking UCLA out of this game by going 1-5.



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PostPosted: 03/25/18 7:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
McCowan misses way too many easy baskets.

Isn't she shooting over 60 percent?


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PostPosted: 03/25/18 7:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

blaase22 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
McCowan misses way too many easy baskets.

Isn't she shooting over 60 percent?


McCowen should be shooting 70%.


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PostPosted: 03/25/18 7:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

She was in the circle...wtf. Was that the same ref?



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Canada may be on the verge of taking UCLA out of this game by going 1-5.


Canada will drive storm/mystics/sky fans crazy at the next level she will blow by defenders and then miss easy ones. If/when she gets it together though she will be tough.


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PostPosted: 03/25/18 7:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

That was a horrendous call. Her foot was in the restricted area and she most certainly wasn't there in time.


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PostPosted: 03/25/18 7:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

another charge with the defender in the arc. This after the same ref tried to give MS the ball when McCowan lost it right in front of her.

Pathetic. And these are the best refs in wcbb?


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Billings has been complete trash in the 1st half.


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zune69 wrote:
Billings has been complete trash in the 1st half.


She's not a center. Completely out-matched in this game. UCLA can't get any offense going.



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zune69 wrote:
blaase22 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
McCowan misses way too many easy baskets.

Isn't she shooting over 60 percent?


McCowen should be shooting 70%.

Come on now not even big Syl could do that at lsu, Big Syl only shot 60 percent her sophomore year.


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PostPosted: 03/25/18 7:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Great 1st half by Vivians.


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toad455 wrote:
zune69 wrote:
Billings has been complete trash in the 1st half.


She's not a center. Completely out-matched in this game. UCLA can't get any offense going.


I think this has more to do with Close's complete ineptness to coach half court offense. That, coupled with the fact that MSU's defense is unlike anything the Pac-12 offers, and this is the result.


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blaase22 wrote:
zune69 wrote:
blaase22 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
McCowan misses way too many easy baskets.

Isn't she shooting over 60 percent?


McCowen should be shooting 70%.

Come on now not even big Syl could do that at lsu, Big Syl only shot 60 percent her sophomore year.


McCowen misses up to 2 easy shots every game,sometimes 3.




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I'm not surprised that MS is scoring, UCLA's defense has never been very good. But UCLA's offense sucks tonight. Canada & Billings are 4-18.


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PostPosted: 03/25/18 7:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

well that was a lot easier for MS ST than I figured it would be.

Can't say I mind though.

It's tough to play against real defense.



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UCLA looks like midgets compared to MSU. Shouldnt Texas have been able to do the same thing? Between this and Baylor losing to OSU Big 12 has a coaching issue.


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UCLA looks like midgets compared to MSU. Shouldnt Texas have been able to do the same thing? Between this and Baylor losing to OSU Big 12 has a coaching issue.


Does anyone really think Baylor would've lost to OSU if Wallace hadn't tore her ACL?


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ucbart wrote:
acsuc99 wrote:
UCLA looks like midgets compared to MSU. Shouldnt Texas have been able to do the same thing? Between this and Baylor losing to OSU Big 12 has a coaching issue.


Does anyone really think Baylor would've lost to OSU if Wallace hadn't tore her ACL?


They had plenty to beat the Beavers even w/o Wallace!


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Pac 12 appling to SEC/ACC power. This bodes well for Notre Dame.

UCLA can't possibly run or have a track meet without getting turnovers or defensive rebounds -- neither of which MSSt will allow.
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PostPosted: 03/25/18 7:36 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I knew UCLA was in trouble when they came out playing zone. Like did they actually do any kind of a scout on MissSt? We've been saying for years that Billings isn't much over 6'. She has incredible hops but no, she's not a center. And she can't shoot from outside so throwing it up from out there is just the same as a turnover. UCLA just not playing smart at all. Cori is a great cheerleader but...

And yeah, ViVi is the real deal. The big girl is...well, big. When you tower over everybody else you should be getting a lot of rebounds and a lot of buckets. But does she have any footwork at all? It doesn't show...even though in this game it's not needed.



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PostPosted: 03/25/18 7:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Lol...Billings has a bad half and now she's 5 feet tall.


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PostPosted: 03/25/18 7:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Only a 13 point game.


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Burke has a surefire WNBA frame. She needs to become a consistent threat on offense though.


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