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PostPosted: 03/19/18 8:33 am    ::: What's Truly Wrong With Women's College Basketball Reply Reply with quote

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidberri/2018/03/18/lets-talk-about-whats-truly-wrong-with-womens-college-basketball/

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So, is the University of Connecticut bad for women's basketball? Whether we look at the historical or economic evidence, it seems very clear that the Huskies dominating women's college basketball is really not a problem.

There is, though, something that is bad for women's basketball.



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PostPosted: 03/19/18 8:49 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Women's college basketball has gotten a huge boost in video coverage over the last decade. BIG 10 Network, Pac-12 Network, SEC Network, ACC Network, ESPN app. I think that sports websites would put it on the front page if there were enough people coming looking for the info.


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PostPosted: 03/19/18 10:04 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

That was a very interesting article, thanks for sharing.


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PostPosted: 03/19/18 10:54 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Gee. after THREE PAGES, he finally gets around to telling us, in the last paragraph, what is truly wrong with women's basketball. Rolling Eyes My dad, who taught a non-credit writing course for grad students (that was *always* full, mind, with a waiting list for the next semester) would have his head for breakfast! Although he does have the reasoning right, the article is written wrong.



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PostPosted: 03/19/18 10:56 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

tfan wrote:
Women's college basketball has gotten a huge boost in video coverage over the last decade. BIG 10 Network, Pac-12 Network, SEC Network, ACC Network, ESPN app. I think that sports websites would put it on the front page if there were enough people coming looking for the info.


Anybody here even try to find info about the women's Frozen Four this weekend? It was like looking for a needle in a haystack. Today ESPN's lead college sports story was about the 16 teams selected for the men's hockey playoffs, which start next weekend, but you have to scroll way, way down to find a story about the women's championship game yesterday. ESPN should just change its name to MESPN and be done with it. People looking for women's sports info do it on social media now, not mainstream sports sites where it's futile.


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PostPosted: 03/19/18 11:05 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

summertime blues wrote:
Gee. after THREE PAGES, he finally gets around to telling us, in the last paragraph, what is truly wrong with women's basketball. Rolling Eyes My dad, who taught a non-credit writing course for grad students (that was *always* full, mind, with a waiting list for the next semester) would have his head for breakfast! Although he does have the reasoning right, the article is written wrong.

Thanks for the heads up. I skipped to page 3 and read just the last few paragraphs. If I had read the first 2 1/2 pages I would never have gotten that portion of my life back. Laughing


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PostPosted: 03/19/18 2:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Oh thank god! It's such a relief to know UConn isn't bad for WCB.

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PostPosted: 03/19/18 6:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

summertime blues wrote:
Gee. after THREE PAGES, he finally gets around to telling us, in the last paragraph, what is truly wrong with women's basketball. Rolling Eyes My dad, who taught a non-credit writing course for grad students (that was *always* full, mind, with a waiting list for the next semester) would have his head for breakfast! Although he does have the reasoning right, the article is written wrong.

There is nothing wrong with this article in how it is written. It was a refutation/counterpoint essay with a clearly defined roadmap of what he was going to be arguing:

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Soon after the game was completed, Josh Peter of USA Today wrote that Connecticut's Coach Geno Auriemma should be "embarrassed."

In addition, Peter argued that the win made "the women's tournament look like a farce" and that "UConn’s win on Saturday was a loss for women’s college basketball."

The victory on Saturday is certainly consistent with the story of women's basketball at the University of Connecticut in the 21st century. From 2000 to 2017, the Huskies won 10 NCAA championships. This record includes three straight titles from 2002 to 2004 and four straight from 2013 to 2016.

So UConn has been dominant. But is that bad for women's basketball?

Well, there is a problem with women's basketball. However, I don't think it is the Huskies' dominance


He clearly sets up his essay as a refutation of Josh Peters' article, and suggests that he will offer as a counterpoint something that he feels is the actual problem. No, he does not lay out what that counterpoint will be, but that is not required at that pont in this type of essay (there are legitimate stylistic reasons to go either way).

He then proceeds to follow his roadmap exactly as he has laid it out. The first part was explaining (quite well, mind you) with empirical data why Josh Peters was wrong. He lays out his argument and signals his conclusion with:
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So is the University of Connecticut bad for women's basketball? Whether we look at the historical or economic evidence, it seems very clear that the Huskies' dominating their sport is really not a problem.


He then announces his transition to the second part of his essay:
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There is, though, something that is bad for women's basketball

And quickly explains what it is: lack of representative media coverage.

This is a perfectly acceptable format for this type of essay.



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PostPosted: 03/19/18 9:01 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

He's probably right that UConn's dominance is not what's wrong with wbb (though the damage to competitive balance created by the TeamESPN thing might be a bit harder to refute).

He's wrong though on his alternative. He's got cause and effect backwards. It's not that people don't pay attention because reporters don't cover it. Reporters don't cover it because people don't pay attention to it.

The sport probably has a number of issues, but the biggest one is the lack of overall competitive balance. It's not just that UConn dominates. It's that a top 5 team has little to fear from even a team in the 20-30 range. More results like today might change that feeling a bit, but even there -- none of the top 5 teams have really been significantly challenged so far.

Most top teams play 6-7 games a year they might could lose (at least before the Sweet 16). That can be interesting for a brief while, but eventually it makes most people ask "what's the point of season tickets to watch blowouts?"


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