| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Randy
Joined: 08 Oct 2011
Posts: 10911
Back to top |
 Posted: 03/19/18 11:22 am ::: |
Reply  |
|
| RavenDog wrote: |
| toad455 wrote: |
| Did Russell's and Nared's stock drop with today's loss? Especially Nared who was useless today. |
I can't seem to explain Nared to myself. She does everything well and is long at 6'2" but doesn't seem to put everything together at the same time in a game. She's a mystery to me. She could be great and then? Maybe Warlick drives her crazy like she does me?
I didn't think Russell's stock went down today. |
Maybe she just doesn't have the right stuff to be a "leader" but might do just fine as role player in the WNBA.
|
|
Shades
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 63770
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/19/18 11:29 am ::: |
Reply |
|
| Randy wrote: |
| RavenDog wrote: |
| toad455 wrote: |
| Did Russell's and Nared's stock drop with today's loss? Especially Nared who was useless today. |
I can't seem to explain Nared to myself. She does everything well and is long at 6'2" but doesn't seem to put everything together at the same time in a game. |
Maybe she just doesn't have the right stuff to be a "leader" but might do just fine as role player in the WNBA. |
Hmm... Randy must want her at #16 but I don’t see her falling that far. I’ve hooked you up with Shakayla Thomas though.
_________________
Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
|
|
WNBA 09
Joined: 26 Jun 2009
Posts: 12535
Location: Dallas , Texas
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/19/18 12:31 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| Shades wrote: |
| RavenDog wrote: |
I didn't think Russell's stock went down yesterday. |
If anything it solidified where I put her in the draft, #6.
As of now I have Vivians going #10, so if NYL fans are willing to trade something good to move up in draft position, what would that be? Keep in mind that nobody’s interested in your table scraps. |
Ditto
_________________
3-Time WNBA Champion-3-Time National Champion-4-Time Olympic Champion....And Yes DT "We Got Confeti" lol
|
|
toad455
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
Posts: 22474
Location: NJ
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/19/18 12:38 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| I think Vivians doesn't go past New York. Really depends who Indiana is looking at at #8. A post(Billings?)? A SF(Vivians)? A guard(Scaife? Nurse?).
_________________
LET'S GO LIBERTY!!!!!!
Twitter: @TBRBWAY
|
|
J-Spoon
Joined: 31 Jan 2009
Posts: 6796
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/19/18 1:13 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| Shades wrote: |
| RavenDog wrote: |
I didn't think Russell's stock went down yesterday. |
If anything it solidified where I put her in the draft, #6.
As of now I have Vivians going #10, so if NYL fans are willing to trade something good to move up in draft position, what would that be? Keep in mind that nobody’s interested in your table scraps. |
Not saying I would want to do this but it would have to be
Rodgers and #10
or Stokes and #10
I think Chicago would consider Rodgers and #10 for #4 (Rodgers would be a good fit behind Quigley, Chicago still gets to pick which wing they like at #3 and can go post at #10) and Seattle would consider Stokes and #10 for #5 (Stokes could give them more size and defense, and one of the top PGs or SFs might still be there at #10).
|
|
toad455
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
Posts: 22474
Location: NJ
Back to top |
|
Shades
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 63770
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/19/18 1:55 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| J-Spoon wrote: |
or Stokes and #10
|
I think Dallas should jump all over that offer. They can use Stokes as the defensive backup to Cambage, and use #10 as competition to Chong, Thornton, or Shaqator.
_________________
Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
|
|
Shades
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 63770
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/19/18 1:55 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
_________________
Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
|
|
stever
Joined: 16 Nov 2004
Posts: 6918
Location: https://womensbasketballdaily.net
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/19/18 2:05 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
Nice job! Especially the third round.  |
|
toad455
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
Posts: 22474
Location: NJ
Back to top |
|
RavenDog
Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Posts: 6878
Location: Home
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/19/18 2:18 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
My guess for Vivians is #4 to #8. If NY gets her at #10, I'd go out and re-celebrate St. Patricks Day.
Nared for me is a late first trounder or early 2nd, unless the Teams are shopping for foreign assistance. Whomever gets her in the second round is getting a steal. There's something not right at Tennessee. This girl is the epitome of Swin Cash.
And, recommend putting T. Muldrow from WVU into your mocks. I think it would be a surprise if she didn't go early to mid 2nd round. I think she's running under the radar.
|
|
ClayK
Joined: 11 Oct 2005
Posts: 11147
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/19/18 2:22 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| I still wonder why Vadeeva is on any first-round lists if there is no indication she will come over this year, next year or ever.
_________________
Oṃ Tāre Tuttāre Ture Svāhā
|
|
J-Spoon
Joined: 31 Jan 2009
Posts: 6796
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/19/18 2:27 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| Shades wrote: |
| J-Spoon wrote: |
or Stokes and #10
|
I think Dallas should jump all over that offer. They can use Stokes as the defensive backup to Cambage, and use #10 as competition to Chong, Thornton, or Shaqator. |
That would really depend on who is still there at #6, who clearly wouldn't be there at #10. Losing Stokes to move up 4 positions is risky, I guess it is risky to do to move up to #5 as well. If it is for Deshields or G. Williams yes I do it, if it is for Vivians, Nurse or one of the posts not named Wilson I probably just wait and take what is available at #10.
|
|
J-Spoon
Joined: 31 Jan 2009
Posts: 6796
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/19/18 2:31 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| For me where it gets tricky at #10 is if Canada is still there. NY IMO has decent coverage at the PG spot with sometimes Hartley, Boyd and L. Allen, but if Canada is there I would have to take her if I were the GM, IMO she will be better than all of our other option at PG sooner rather than later, but it doesn't really solve our bigger needs at SF or in the post, and it leads to a decent player getting cut.
|
|
WNBA 09
Joined: 26 Jun 2009
Posts: 12535
Location: Dallas , Texas
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/19/18 3:04 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| Shades wrote: |
| J-Spoon wrote: |
or Stokes and #10
|
I think Dallas should jump all over that offer. They can use Stokes as the defensive backup to Cambage, and use #10 as competition to Chong, Thornton, or Shaqator. |
I actually like Russell's offensive skillset a bit more than Stokes , but Stokes on the defensive end would be more of an enforcer. Not a bad trade , but I dont see the big difference between each player. One is a liability on offense and the other a liability on defense. with #10 though could add a bit of spice and an Extra player than we cant really afford at the moment.
_________________
3-Time WNBA Champion-3-Time National Champion-4-Time Olympic Champion....And Yes DT "We Got Confeti" lol
|
|
awhom111
Joined: 19 Nov 2014
Posts: 4229
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/19/18 7:46 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| ClayK wrote: |
| I still wonder why Vadeeva is on any first-round lists if there is no indication she will come over this year, next year or ever. |
There are two separate parts of this. It depends on how highly you view her as a prospect regardless of coming over and how far down the prospect list you get before you think you might have a player who does not make it out of training camp. I think top 8 is too high, but the teams below that should consider her an option. |
|
Shades
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 63770
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/19/18 8:15 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| awhom111 wrote: |
| ClayK wrote: |
| I still wonder why Vadeeva is on any first-round lists if there is no indication she will come over this year, next year or ever. |
There are two separate parts of this. It depends on how highly you view her as a prospect regardless of coming over and how far down the prospect list you get before you think you might have a player who does not make it out of training camp. I think top 8 is too high, but the teams below that should consider her an option. |
Why did you pick #8 as your cut-off point? Indiana has both a dire need for fresh blood in the post plus the Russian connection. Might be a good match.
I'm not sure how she fits in with PHX with Griner. Connecticut is overloaded at post and may be gun shy about more international players. Perfect fit for LAS. Back to PHX (and Reeve gets cursed). Can't let Laimbeer have her with #13.
_________________
Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
|
|
toad455
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
Posts: 22474
Location: NJ
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/19/18 8:29 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| I see Vadeeva going either #7 to Washington or #8 to Indiana. Indiana's rebuilding and can take the risk of her not showing up this season. Washington needs post help badly & Thibault likes his foreigners.
_________________
LET'S GO LIBERTY!!!!!!
Twitter: @TBRBWAY
|
|
Richyyy
Joined: 17 Nov 2005
Posts: 24351
Location: London
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/19/18 8:40 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| awhom111 wrote: |
| ClayK wrote: |
| I still wonder why Vadeeva is on any first-round lists if there is no indication she will come over this year, next year or ever. |
There are two separate parts of this. It depends on how highly you view her as a prospect regardless of coming over and how far down the prospect list you get before you think you might have a player who does not make it out of training camp. I think top 8 is too high, but the teams below that should consider her an option. |
There's also the potential 'the teams know more about her status and intentions than any of us do' element. |
|
zune69
Joined: 27 May 2010
Posts: 8183
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/19/18 8:43 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
No way is Vivians a lottery pick.She lacks foot speed,quickness,and is a terrible defender.Half of the time Vivians is jogging up and down the court.Miss ST has managed to hide Vivians weaknesses by playing her at the PF position.It's easy to drive around defenders when they're slower and bigger than you.Not to mention all of the wide open looks Vivians gets because the PF for the other team isn't used to guarding on the perimeter.
Drafting Vivians 8th or higher would be very risky.
|
|
Shades
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 63770
Back to top |
|
blaase22
Joined: 28 Mar 2011
Posts: 4163
Location: Paradise
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/19/18 9:10 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| zune69 wrote: |
No way is Vivians a lottery pick.She lacks foot speed,quickness,and is a terrible defender.Half of the time Vivians is jogging up and down the court.Miss ST has managed to hide Vivians weaknesses by playing her at the PF position.It's easy to drive around defenders when they're slower and bigger than you.Not to mention all of the wide open looks Vivians gets because the PF for the other team isn't used to guarding on the perimeter.
Drafting Vivians 8th or higher would be very risky. |
If she falls to 17 I'd take her.
|
|
Randy
Joined: 08 Oct 2011
Posts: 10911
Back to top |
|
zune69
Joined: 27 May 2010
Posts: 8183
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/19/18 9:27 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| blaase22 wrote: |
| zune69 wrote: |
No way is Vivians a lottery pick.She lacks foot speed,quickness,and is a terrible defender.Half of the time Vivians is jogging up and down the court.Miss ST has managed to hide Vivians weaknesses by playing her at the PF position.It's easy to drive around defenders when they're slower and bigger than you.Not to mention all of the wide open looks Vivians gets because the PF for the other team isn't used to guarding on the perimeter.
Drafting Vivians 8th or higher would be very risky. |
If she falls to 17 I'd take her. |
Most definitely...I believe Vivians will be a solid rotation player at the next level.I just don't think she's a lottery pick.
|
|
toad455
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
Posts: 22474
Location: NJ
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/19/18 9:34 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| The four lottery picks for the 2018 draft should be, without question, Wilson-Mitchell-Williams-SheShields.
_________________
LET'S GO LIBERTY!!!!!!
Twitter: @TBRBWAY
|
|
|
|
