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Howard Duane Allman
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Geoffrey Arnold Beck
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Charles Edward Anderson Berry
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Eric Patrick Clapton, CBE
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Riley B. King
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Mark Freuder Knopfler, OBE
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James Patrick Page OBE
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Carlos Santana
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Edward Lodewijk Van Halen
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PostPosted: 03/16/18 9:42 pm    ::: The All-Time Greatest Guitarist Not Named Hendrix? Reply Reply with quote


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PostPosted: 03/16/18 9:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Chet Atkins?



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PostPosted: 03/17/18 3:11 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I like Dickey better'n Duane.

I do realize I'm in the extreme minority there. The first solo of In Memory of Elizabeth Reed is Dickey playing. The second, longer, featured one, is Duane. That right there is not even close. Dickey's really one of my favorite guitar players of all time.

This is kind of a no-competition in my book. Frank Zappa was so far and away more musically special and original and jaw-dropping and beautiful from everyone else it's not even fair to compare anyone to him. Someone else might have done technique better. Or blues. Or blues rock. Or heavy metal. But Zappa was their master musically. He’s like Wes Montgomey was to jazz guitar, in my opinion.

This solo sums up a lot. This is blues progression. The most creative you'll ever hear. And the most creative blues guitar solo you will ever here. I start the video at the solo. The song itself would not be to everyone's taste.

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Greatest solo ever recorded in traditional FM rock is also, for me, practically not an issue and that's Clapton's solo(s) on Crossroads. The whole song is great but that second solo is just completely crazy. I'll record me taking a run at it on my iPhone and post it. Should be good for a laugh.

Hendrix puts me to sleep at this point. I may be developing a problem with him having an expiration date. Maybe it'll come back to me. I used to emulate him, musically.

A lot of people think Jimmy Page is the greatest. He wasn't the greatest soloist per se, but for what he accomplished for the guitar in front of a big rock band, he was greatest in that regard.

Santana was a gas, but nobody slipped more into a rut than Santana did. Of course he isn't the brightest bulb. Lot of great musicians aren't. Most of these guys in fact. Those national anthems he did before NBA finals games were an embarrassment. Can't believe he came back and did the same noodling nothingness a second time. Another player I emulated, even more than Hendrix.




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PostPosted: 03/17/18 10:21 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Big fan of many of those but you surprisingly omitted the best choice - SRV.

And if you're actually discussing #2, I doubt Van Halen, Berry, or King belong in the discussion. Excellent but not that elite.


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PostPosted: 03/17/18 12:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

genero, man, you come up with these impossible polls. how can one boil down all the genres of guitar to one, great guitarist? and then the greatest of all time? there's rock, which has a substantial list. there's classical. there's folk. there's blues. there's jazz. (and how could you omit joe pass, who influenced so many?) so many other influencers i could name. but, like i said, an impossible poll.

if i just had to pick someone from your list, i guess it’d be between king and santana, and i wouldn't be looking in the rock world at all because that's not how i rolled. in an impossible poll, with no one the absolute greatest, i like these guys, two being brasilian:

lee ritenour

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romero lubambo

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just for sheer technical acumen, i choose as the among the greatest: yamandu costa

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and then, for among the greatest guitar solos ever, i choose mel brown’s "eighteen pounds of unclean chitlins," which fans have begged impulse records for years to re-release.

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PostPosted: 03/17/18 1:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Looks like the Queen would vote for Clapton.


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PostPosted: 03/17/18 2:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

after #1, it's a crapshoot.



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PostPosted: 03/17/18 7:42 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

sambista wrote:
genero, man, you come up with these impossible polls. how can one boil down all the genres of guitar to one, great guitarist? and then the greatest of all time? there's rock, which has a substantial list. there's classical. there's folk. there's blues. there's jazz. (and how could you omit joe pass, who influenced so many?) so many other influencers i could name. but, like i said, an impossible poll.

if i just had to pick someone from your list, i guess it’d be between king and santana, and i wouldn't be looking in the rock world at all because that's not how i rolled. in an impossible poll, with no one the absolute greatest, i like these guys, two being brasilian:

lee ritenour

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romero lubambo

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just for sheer technical acumen, i choose as the among the greatest: yamandu costa

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and then, for among the greatest guitar solos ever, i choose mel brown’s "eighteen pounds of unclean chitlins," which fans have begged impulse records for years to re-release.

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You always get me. I'm going to listen to these videos you posted. Well, I'll leave it up to you to decide with your write-in. Since you mentioned BB King and Carlos Santana, here are two of their special performances on the guitar.

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PostPosted: 03/20/18 1:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

"Greatest" really has no meaning when talking about art, which is a subjective matter of taste, entertainment and personal predilection. Of the OP list, Chuck Berry is the guitarist who entertained me the best.

With guitarists, "greatest" is even more meaningless than usual because virtually everyone thinks only about rock guitarists with electric guitars. Electronic rock guitarists are often self-taught and have no education in classical guitar technique, theory or orchestration. Nonetheless, if your intoxicated cranial neurons were excited in your youth by ear-splitting, 10 second long guitar notes, modulated by wavy electronic vibrato, and augmented by body gymnastics and contortions (often sexual), then you probably love someone like Jimmy Hendrix, who surely mastered this form of entertainment technique. As for electric guitar, no one contributed more to the invention of the instrument itself and its technique than Les Paul.

However, I think acoustic classical, flamenco and jazz guitarists have much more technique than electronic rock guitarists, both in solo technical dexterity and subtle orchestral/band/dance integration. Classical and flamenco guitar (and predecessor instruments) go back hundreds of years with long traditions of genre sophistication. Jazz guitarists are probably the least known as a genre and as individuals.

Probably the best known classical guitarist of the 20th century was Andres Segovia, whom Paul McCartney called "the father of us all." Other heralded classical guitarists of the last half century are John Williams and Julian Bream.

Currently, I like Sharon Isbin, who has a bachelors and masters degree from Yale in music, who studied with Segovia and many other classical, flamenco and Chinese lute masters, and who founded and is the current director of the guitar program at the Julliard School of Music. There are many videos of her, and here is a short one:

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As a related tangent, there is no rock drummer, in my opinion, who can hold a technical or innovation candle to the great jazz drummers, such as the ubermeister Buddy Rich and others such as Gene Krupa and Max Roach.
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PostPosted: 03/21/18 1:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Thanks for that, G.

Oral history from 2 blues icons talking about a third.

Buddy is one of my all-time favorites. He and Jr Wells were kind enough to sign my guitar in 1988 when they played a Circle Line cruise show. Very Happy

I've seen him more than a dozen times, mostly in the 80s, and not since the early 90s.

One of my best musical weekends:

Buddy played the Musicians Exchange lounge in Lauderdale, in 1987. He was booked Fri and Sat in the club and was to headline the inaugural South Florida Bluesfest on Sunday.

In those days I had good connections in Rockland County (NY) for getting a bunch of bootleg Hendrix, including studio outtakes, show rehearsals, etc. I knew Buddy liked Jimi, so I made a cassette and gave it to him after one of the Fri shows, speaking to him for a couple minutes in the dressing room.

That Sunday night, as mentioned, he played the South Florida Bluesfest, which was held right in the Musicians Exchange parking lot. Lol. The other main acts were John Lee Hooker, and John Mayall and the Bluesbreaker (Coco Montoya on axe).

When I had given him the Hendrix tape Friday, I told him I loved his rendition of "One Room Country Shack" (off his "A Man and His Blues" LP).

On Sunday night in the parking lot, he was playing some uptempo number when he caught my eye in the crowd. He turned around to the band, said something, and they stopped in midsong and suddenly went into One Room Country Shack. Nearly shit myself. Smile

The next time I saw him, about a year later, at the Lone Star, I think, (when it was on 13th St.), his bass player Greg Rzab came over to me and said- you look familiar...you're the guy that gave us that Hendrix tape! We love it and play it on the bus all the time.

Near poopy pants again. Razz

Sadly, we're at the end of the line of that GREAT generation of blues guys. So many have passed and just a few remain.



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PostPosted: 03/22/18 11:30 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Personally I don't like electric guitar, except in very small doses as an instrument. I bought CDs (out of print) called Guitarisma and Guitarisma 2 that I enjoyed. But they were mostly acoustic guitar.

I am reading my local free weekly and it says that Michael Schenker will be playing locally. It refers to him as a "renowned hard rock guitarist" and a "German guitar god". Here he is in 1981:

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PostPosted: 03/22/18 1:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I misread this thread (probably because of the available choices) as being a greatest rock guitarist poll. When I realized it wasn't a greatest rock guitarist poll but a greatest guitarist PERIOD poll, I lost my mind. I have yet to find it.

You guys go ahead and have a good time.

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PostPosted: 03/22/18 2:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Well shit, it obviously is a matter of personal choice.

For goodness sake.



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PostPosted: 03/22/18 2:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

To this day, there still has never been anything like Wes Montgomery in the world of guitar. His reign is absolute and unquestioned and continues on 50 years after his death. That's not hyperbole.

To the other ultra-great modern jazz guitarists of the 20th century, Jim Hall, Joe Pass, and Kenny Burrell, Wes was untouchable. Everyone knows this. Jimi Hendrix loved Wes Montgomery. BB King loved Wes Montgomery. EVERY body loves Wes Montgomery.

He is the most beautiful musical soul you will ever hear revealed through instrumental music. But like Trump claims his integrity is the best? Wes had the best of a wide range of musical attributes. His time. Which is so evident in the cut in the previous post, was relentless. His sense of time became a feature of the music itself. It had a character. Wes's time was truly the best.

This piece here, which I start at Wes's solo, is off an album called Boss Guitar. Boss (fill in instrument) is a jazz appellation given to the person, if ever a person materializes on the scene, who is the unquestioned supreme master of his instrument. Like Lebron is The King. Wes could name his album Boss Guitar in the early 1960s and the world of jazz would only say, You da boss, Wes. Now tell us something we don't know.

Now does anyone want to discuss what musically it means to play jazz versus some of these other genres of music? You seriously want to have that discussion? No you don't. Sonny Rollins put it about as well as it can be stated with this analogy. Playing jazz is like changing the fan belt on a car with the motor running.

So in the context of this country's most advanced musical art form, jazz, the question isn't who the greatest guitar player is or was. We've known the answer to that for almost 60 years now. Wes is the answer.

The better question is, was Wes the greatest jazz musician of all time? Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. But he's right up there in the top five.

Think Lebron. Technically there's no one like him. But it's all about the music he makes. Music is what it's all about. Not the guitar.

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PostPosted: 03/22/18 6:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

There's a nice riff, toward the end, on Hendrix' Freedom (The Cry of Love lp) that pays homage to Wes.

Some folks here may be familiar w/ Wes' treatment of Windy and don't know it's him.

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For those encumbered by their Eurocentricity: labeling Jimi Hendrix a rock guitarist is akin to calling Michaelangelo an interior house painter.



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cthskzfn wrote:
For those encumbered by their Eurocentricity: labeling Jimi Hendrix a rock guitarist is akin to calling Michaelangelo an interior house painter.


Were you encumbered by Eurocentricity when you selected your lingerie model?


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tfan wrote:
cthskzfn wrote:
For those encumbered by their Eurocentricity: labeling Jimi Hendrix a rock guitarist is akin to calling Michaelangelo an interior house painter.


Were you encumbered by Eurocentricity when you selected your lingerie model?



Please explain the equivalence you apparently suggest.



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cthskzfn wrote:
tfan wrote:
cthskzfn wrote:
For those encumbered by their Eurocentricity: labeling Jimi Hendrix a rock guitarist is akin to calling Michaelangelo an interior house painter.


Were you encumbered by Eurocentricity when you selected your lingerie model?



Please explain the equivalence you apparently suggest.


Are you saying that picking a favorite lingerie model is less encumbered by Eurocentricity than picking a favorite rock guitar player?


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PostPosted: 03/25/18 1:20 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

cthskzfn wrote:
labeling Jimi Hendrix a rock guitarist is akin to calling Michaelangelo an interior house painter.


How would you label him -- in terms of primary genres and instrument type?

I'm no expert on Hendrix and I'm sure any good guitarist can "play" anything more or less, but I don't recall Hendrix playing acoustic guitar with any regularity or on his big hits, and don't think he was ever considered a classical, flamenco or even a jazz guitarist per se.
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Downbeat magazine inducted Hendrix into its Hall of Fame in 1970. That's some indication of what jazz fans thought of Hendrix at the time. I don't know how you could listen to any of his records and not hear the seeds of jazz fusion being planted. He's as responsible for that genre as anyone who ever picked up a guitar.



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PostPosted: 03/25/18 2:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Greatest? Tony Iommi
Best? Marty Friedman

HM to a personal favorite, Ritchie Blackmore, even though his stubbornness makes it hard to put him on rankings like these


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Hendrix's artistry transcends musical genres. That's undeniable. Just like with Wes, some current from some other artistic reality was flowing through that guy. The band and the records were rock records. And like Clapton, and so many others right then, his playing was very much centered around the blues. But if the notion is that he defies categorization then I don't think anyone could argue with that.

As far as jazz fusion coming AFTER Hendrix, for rock musicians, yes, but it was already happening in jazz with Miles Davis's transformation from cool jazz to all new music, new band, etc. on a string of albums in the late 60s and really hitting its stride with Bitches Brew. That kind of music got its funk straight from James Brown and then jazz musicians like Miles began to explore that in a sort of open jamming jazz thing. And that led to Weather Report and some other bands that are hard to even remember at this point.

But. Yeah. There's the other side of the coin and that is how rock and soul musicians, also using a sort of funky vibe, were approaching jazz-rock fusion and Hendrix was doing all those long jams over a single tonal center, not really blues, modal music as it's called in jazz, minor stuff that goes on forever, he was opening up people's ears as to what that could be for rock musicians.

That would have pretty much described me by the way. That's why they call me the jammer. Or why I called myself the jammer. lol. We couldn't play through chord 'changes' at that point like standards and stuff like that, but this jamming around a minor tonal center... ala Hendrix and then later Santana and also Zappa's early 70s bands... that was something we could do and that's how we developed our chops.

There's also something kind of before all this and that's hard bop. Which is kind of nothing like bebop and more like carefully arranged funky or churchy or latin sounding jazz tunes. Horace Silver. Cannonball Adderley basically left jazz behind and took hard bop all they way into just almost straight ahead funk music. Cannonball is like a deity to me but I don't listen to any of that hard bob or funk era at all. I love hard bop but more straight ahead stuff like Horace Silver and Kenny Dorham.


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PostPosted: 04/11/18 2:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

In Miles Davis' autobio, he said he was in talks with Hendrix to do something. Miles' included Dizzy Gillespie's reaction to reading a preproduction version, where he's flying home on an international flight, everyone's asleep and he yells as loud as he can : "Miles you lying m***** f***** !!" Whole plane wakes up.

I'd vote Pat Metheny, just cause Wes had a smaller body of work (no fault of his own).

Voted Clapton. Tad grumpy about his politics.


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