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PostPosted: 03/13/18 2:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
Yeah, Jones isn't going anywhere. The question is how many minutes Reeve will find for her now that there are veteran options available to go with instead.


She went from first guard off the bench to 5th guard in short order.

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That would mean the 5-11, 34-year-old Wright would guard at the forward position, something she can do. Reeve compared Wright to Rebekkah Brunson in her ability to guard bigger players.


Guarding forward would be so rare, it’s not really worth discussing.
You know who else defends bigger players... Matee Ajavon. Remember when she was defending Glory Johnson and a fight almost broke out?


With Reeve talking about playing small with Wright at forward, she’s not showing a ton of confidence in this player she had to have in Zandalasini. Her and Jones amount to insurance policies now. Not a surprise, was expected she’d want more vets. Same old Reeve.

That said, I think it’s a good move if Wright still has it in the tank. I hope she doesn’t become the next Tan White.... disappointment combined with thinking about could have been with a younger player (Sugar Rodgers). Tan White and Tanisha Wright have the same initials. With Reeve being so superstitious, if she reads this, it’s going to mess with her head. “Oh no, what I have done?”

The saddest thing is it sure looks like the Lynx won’t be drafting at guard this season (no Carlie Wagner unless nobody else drafts her and they pick her up at #36). I could see them drafting Wallace as a deferred pick. I hope Miyem’s contract isn’t guaranteed because she’s now the most bubble player on the team. She hasn’t been very good from what I’ve seen. Draft best post player available at #17. Draft Wallace or maybe a foreign flyer like Musina at #24. Draft Wagner or another foreign flyer at #36. We done.


To be fair Ajavon was only guarding her that possession due to a switch that was made on a pick & roll . She did not guard glory the entire game .



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PostPosted: 03/13/18 2:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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That said, I think it’s a good move if Wright still has it in the tank. I hope she doesn’t become the next Tan White.... disappointment combined with thinking about could have been with a younger player (Sugar Rodgers). Tan White and Tanisha Wright have the same initials. With Reeve being so superstitious, if she reads this, it’s going to mess with her head. “Oh no, what I have done?”


I'm very superstitious, so I love this move, because it hopefully guarantees the Lynx will win a title, as I learned that the secret to winning WNBA Titltes is acquiring a (former) Liberty player:
2011: Taj McWilliams-Franklin
2012: Erlana Larkins
2013: Janel McCarville
2014: ?
2015: Anna Cruz
2016: Essence Carson (that's why I was sh*t scared all of 2016, because that signing gave it away to me that the Sparks were winning it all that year)
2017: I guess the New York Liberty Curse ignored Pierson's 2 prior years in Tulsa/Dallas? Or maybe it's like 2014.
2018: If so, the Lynx better win, and not the Sparks, because Cappie played with the Liberty 3 years, and two teams ago.

Now watch some team trade for Shoni Schimmel in order to try to outdo the Lynx, thanks to me. Cool


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PostPosted: 03/13/18 2:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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For what it's worth, I like this one too. It's dependent on her being in shape, but the player that was in New York for a couple of years would be very useful for Minnesota. It's something of a combo of what Perkins and Montgomery offered - a veteran hand who knows what they're supposed to be doing at any moment, and a player who can run the offense (and likely still a better defender than either, even if she has lost a step).

The fact that I knew this was supposed to be coming was part of why I didn't like the Robinson trade. They already had the veteran lead-guard option behind Whalen, in case Reeve refused to let Jones be the primary backup PG (which always seemed inevitable). Given that, I'd rather have taken my chances of something useful being left at #12.

Yeah, I'm with you there. I do like the trade for Robinson less knowing we have Wright coming in. Maybe it works out well, and Robinson is a much longer term answer if she returns to form (being of age with Moore and Fowles), but in a deep draft the could've been at #12 haunts me a little.



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PostPosted: 03/13/18 2:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

If Nurse falls to 12 It will be beyond mad! D-rob is not needed, I hope she proves me wrong but I think she is close to done.


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PostPosted: 03/13/18 3:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:

To be fair Ajavon was only guarding her that possession due to a switch that was made on a pick & roll . She did not guard glory the entire game.


She doesn’t get the minutes to guard anybody the whole game, and neither would Wright. I just brought up Ajavon as an example of a player available that can guard somebody bigger. I should have known that some people would make that the only thing they key on.



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PostPosted: 03/13/18 3:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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That said, I think it’s a good move if Wright still has it in the tank. I hope she doesn’t become the next Tan White.... disappointment combined with thinking about could have been with a younger player (Sugar Rodgers). Tan White and Tanisha Wright have the same initials. With Reeve being so superstitious, if she reads this, it’s going to mess with her head. “Oh no, what I have done?”


I'm very superstitious, so I love this move, because it hopefully guarantees the Lynx will win a title, as I learned that the secret to winning WNBA Titltes is acquiring a (former) Liberty player:
2011: Taj McWilliams-Franklin
2012: Erlana Larkins
2013: Janel McCarville
2014: ?
2015: Anna Cruz
2016: Essence Carson (that's why I was sh*t scared all of 2016, because that signing gave it away to me that the Sparks were winning it all that year)
2017: I guess the New York Liberty Curse ignored Pierson's 2 prior years in Tulsa/Dallas? Or maybe it's like 2014.
2018: If so, the Lynx better win, and not the Sparks, because Cappie played with the Liberty 3 years, and two teams ago.

Now watch some team trade for Shoni Schimmel in order to try to outdo the Lynx, thanks to me. Cool


Not a bad case you make here. Pierson is still a former Liberty player, just not her immediate former team. Reeve has just turned giddy. What a roller coaster for her. Wink

If Schimmel goes to SEA and they win a championship (thereby making the Howard trade near worthless), it’s all your fault.



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oh snaps, new look at their practice shirts. cannot waitttttt!


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Lynx fans are going to love T Wright. Hardworking hardnosed and very intelligent player. One of the best perimeter defenders that ive seen



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I guess this is the Empire Strikes Back moment.



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So Wright was basically brought in by Reeve to cover Moore for 10 minutes for defensive purposes only? Makes you wonder where Zandalasini will fit into the rotation?



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So Wright was basically brought in by Reeve to cover Moore for 10 minutes for defensive purposes only? Makes you wonder where Zandalasini will fit into the rotation?

Where she was always going to be. She is a rookie, she was never going to get big minutes under Reeve barring some miracle season.



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Minnesota is doing Jones like they did Howard.Bringing in past their prime players to fill backup roles instead of giving a young talented 1st rd pick an opportunity to earn a spot in the rotation.Was this move really necessary ?...Minnesota could have waited until mid-season to sign Wright....Jones should demand a trade.


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PostPosted: 03/13/18 6:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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So Wright was basically brought in by Reeve to cover Moore for 10 minutes for defensive purposes only? Makes you wonder where Zandalasini will fit into the rotation?


Just curious, did you read the article?

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"Tanisha has been a consummate utility player,'' Reeve said. "Whatever we'll need, she'll be able to do, whether that means playing behind [Seimone] Augustus, or helping out at point guard. I could see, at times, having a three-guard lineup of Robinson, [Alexix Jones] and Tanisha together.''


So Wright was brought in to be Seimone's backup with the added ability to help out at point if the rotation calls for it. She is a good enough defender that if Reeve chooses to play 3 guards, Wright can defend the opposing small forward. Note that she is specifically mentioning that she intends to have Jones in the rotation.

They hope to make Zandalasini into Moore's backup and Jones into Whalen's/Augustus' and they brought in two vets who can fill the gap while they develop. Basing what Reeve does this year on what she did in years past is short-sighted. She has been clearly stating for a year now that she knows a next generation needs to be on its way. They traded this year's 1st rounder away so they could focus on the young players they have but they've set it up so that they can make moves next season.


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Minnesota is doing Jones like they did Howard.Bringing in past their prime players to fill backup roles instead of giving a young talented 1st rd pick an opportunity to earn a spot in the rotation.Was this move really necessary ?...Minnesota could have waited until mid-season to sign Wright....Jones should demand a trade.

Overreaction much?

Jones will get plenty of time to prove herself worthy of minutes and a larger role. But championship teams aren't interested in "developing" a player on the court, they want their best possible iteration out there winning games. Last year PP got a lot of minutes early, and Howard not so much. But as the year went on Howard ate into PP's minutes until she barely played.

There was something that PJ Fleck said last year that I love:
It is the coaches job to recruit (sign) every player's replacement; it is the players job to prove the coach wrong and keep their job.



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PostPosted: 03/13/18 7:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Overreaction much?


Not really....

Reeve has a history of limiting the PT of young players.Especially when she has veteran backups at her disposal...Jones will avg 10-12 minutes at the most.


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justintyme wrote:

Overreaction much?


Not really....

Reeve has a history of limiting the PT of young players.Especially when she has veteran backups at her disposal...Jones will avg 10-12 minutes at the most.

Of course these players play less. What we are saying is that is not a big deal. It's not Reeve limiting their play time, it's the players themselves. Reeve just plays whatever players she feels are most likely to win the game, whatever she feels her most reliable players are.

That is what should be done for a team in their Championship window. You're not looking to develop youth, you're looking to win games. And Reeve has demonstrated that if young players prove they belong out there, they will be out there.



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justintyme wrote:

Overreaction much?


Not really....

Reeve has a history of limiting the PT of young players.Especially when she has veteran backups at her disposal...Jones will avg 10-12 minutes at the most.

Of course these players play less. What we are saying is that is not a big deal. It's not Reeve limiting their play time, it's the players themselves. Reeve just plays whatever players she feels are most likely to win the game, whatever she feels her most reliable players are.

That is what should be done for a team in their Championship window. You're not looking to develop youth, you're looking to win games. And Reeve has demonstrated that if young players prove they belong out there, they will be out there.


Yeah, it was so sad how she didn't play Maya much in her rookie year.


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PostPosted: 03/13/18 10:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

so

Whalen/Robinson
Augustus/Wright/Jones
Moore/Zandalasini
Brunson/Kizer/Miyem
Fowles/Fagbenle

#17, #20, #24, #36

Are we sure both Euros will show? If yes for the whole season?

If so do any of the 2nd round draftees have a chance to knock someone off the current roster?

2nd round possibilities at #17, 20 and 24

unlikely falling to 17 but have been there in a couple of mocks

Atkins, Russell, Scaife, S. Thomas, Nared

much more likely to be there at Minny's 2nd round picks

Hines-Allen, Goodwyn,, McCarty, Gulich, Wagner, Muldrow, Flahrety, Greenwell, Buss, Jensen, Butler

or anyone from the wire?

wire possibilities
Hanson, George, Griffin, Banham, Bulgak, Hooper, R. Williams, Weise, Hamby, Coffey, McCall, Hooper, A. Taylor, Akhator, Lewis, Zahui B (maybe?), Lucas, Cannon, L. Montgomery, Peterson




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WNBA 09 wrote:

To be fair Ajavon was only guarding her that possession due to a switch that was made on a pick & roll . She did not guard glory the entire game.


She doesn’t get the minutes to guard anybody the whole game, and neither would Wright. I just brought up Ajavon as an example of a player available that can guard somebody bigger. I should have known that some people would make that the only thing they key on.


Ok i do apologize i did not understand what you were referring to shades no shade my friend!



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Lynx fans are going to love T Wright. Hardworking hardnosed and very intelligent player. One of the best perimeter defenders that ive seen


+ This Non Lynx Fan ...T. Wright will be a great addition to this team leadership wise also.



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I would be shocked, barring injury, if this doesn't end up being the opening day lineup. I suppose some camp invite could just blow the coaches' socks off, but I'd bet against it.

I haven't followed the draft very closely this year, so I don't know what the international landscape looks like, but it would seem an ideal time to take a flier on someone not likely to show up to camp this year.



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PostPosted: 03/13/18 11:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
so

Whalen/Robinson
Augustus/Wright/Jones
Moore/Zandalasini
Brunson/Kizer/Miyem
Fowles/Fagbenle

#17, #20, #24, #36

Are we sure both Euros will show? If yes for the whole season?

They were signed for this year's team, so barring unforseen circumstances, yes, they're expected to show. The only reason for either of them to miss time would be Miyem right at the end, for the same reason that Belgium only really wanted Meesseman to miss the playoffs - the Worlds are really tight to the end of the WNBA season, and France would probably like her for a full training camp. But I'd trust the Lynx to have asked about that beforehand, so I doubt she leaves before their season's over.

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If so do any of the 2nd round draftees have a chance to knock someone off the current roster?

Sure. I'd expect that 17th pick, all things being equal, to be a big who might challenge Fagbenle, or even Kizer/Miyem if they aren't fully healthy or struggle to adapt. A perimeter player's going to struggle to beat out any of the seven there already, but it depends on who might slide. Maya can be the 5th post if necessary, so if they fell in love with an 8th perimeter player in camp that player could still beat out a post.

But also, it's the Lynx - if nobody slides that they actually like and want to see in camp, one of the various foreign options is a definite possibility. Vadeeva will surely be gone, but that still leaves Musina, Chartereau, Park Ji-Su and some other less known names.



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Zahui B (maybe?)


If you guys want to cut one of the candidates for EuroLeague Player of the Year, you’re definitely getting the season off on the wrong foot.

Oh, and the Lynx don’t have #20. The pick they get is for 2019.



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Shades wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
Zahui B (maybe?)


If you guys want to cut one of the candidates for EuroLeague Player of the Year, you’re definitely getting the season off on the wrong foot.

Oh, and the Lynx don’t have #20. The pick they get is for 2019.


I don't want to cut Zahui B I'm really hoping this is her year, but I put her closest to the bubble of our 4 posts, with B. Allen closest to the bubble of the wings and L. Allen closest to the bubble of the guards. Those three and the #10 draft pick are currently players 9-12 on the roster, so if anyone else steps up it would be one of those four who lose their spot. ATM I kind of hope we go with last years 11 and the draft pick (unless we have great trade on the horizon), but it was pointed out how rare it is for teams to have that kind of year to year continuity.

OTOH Zagui B had a great over seas season last year which did not translate to her W season, so who knows if her great season this year will translate?


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justintyme wrote:

Overreaction much?


Not really....

Reeve has a history of limiting the PT of young players.Especially when she has veteran backups at her disposal...Jones will avg 10-12 minutes at the most.

Of course these players play less. What we are saying is that is not a big deal. It's not Reeve limiting their play time, it's the players themselves. Reeve just plays whatever players she feels are most likely to win the game, whatever she feels her most reliable players are.

That is what should be done for a team in their Championship window. You're not looking to develop youth, you're looking to win games. And Reeve has demonstrated that if young players prove they belong out there, they will be out there.


I kind of like this approach - win now, and when the curtain drops you are in the lottery. About half of the teams have never won a single championship - developing young players isn't always the answer. Where I disagree with a move like this is when a team that is not a real contender dumps a draft pick or benches a promising young player for a vet that is running out of time.

Of course, as we've seen from Houston and Sacramento - winning a championship(s) is no assurance the team will prosper after the glory days are over.



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My two cents, way too late:

D-Rob: Don't love giving up our 1st Rounder, but gives us a veteran guard off the bench who is quick and plays pesky defense. Hopefully another year off her injury will benefit her and she can get back to doing some things she was doing in San Antonio. I can see her doing what Renee did on defense by getting under people's skin.

Wright: Another strong defender. Someone who can guard the 1-3 positions for us and gives us another ball handler. Fits the Jia role of a guard off the bench who can knock down a shot or get to the basket, but mainly coming in for defense.

AJ: While bringing in these two guards probably takes some minutes away that she was probably going to get, I don't see this as AJ isn't going to play again this season. She can be a dynamic scorer off the bench, but its going to give her a little bit more time to develop. Hopefully she will be able to limit some turnovers and tough shots around the basket she was doing last year, but I'm excited for her this coming season.

Zand: Reeve showed last season that she wasn't afraid to throw her in right away, especially in the playoffs. I think a full training camp with the team is really going to benefit her, as well. I don't feel like we saw the real Z last season, so another one that I'm excited for.

IMO, the spots up for grabs are in the post. Temi and Miyem are the ones that really need to prove themselves. I don't expect another worthwhile to drop into the 2nd Round for us, but if some post does, I would expect us to drop them to give some competition. Otherwise I wouldn't be surprised if we grabbed some international players or injured senior who could be deferred another year. Which makes me wonder if Berkani and/or Tulipea will be coming over to camp this year.


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The timing was all wrong for the Wright acquisition. That’s why it would have been smarter for the Lynx to hold off on the DRob trade until draft day. But I suppose Reeve was worried some other team (like maybe SEA) would make a better offer sooner than draft day.

The Lynx seemed the most excited about acquiring Wright. She’s versatile enough to play 1-3, so she would have been the only veteran safety net needed for AJones just in case AJones couldn’t handle the extra load. Reeve has seen her share of young PG’s who fail to improve or reach a high standard quickly enough, so Reeve needed that safety net. If the Lynx would have acquired Wright first, maybe the DRob trade wouldn’t have happened and the Lynx could have held onto that #12 pick and also alleviated pressure on the cap space. Make a mock draft and see for yourself. Even without early declarations, something good is going to show up at #12. Of course, if either Augustus or Whalen get hit with a lengthy injury, Reeve will be looking like a genius.

Reeve seems to have painted herself into a corner with Zandalasini. Here’s a player the Lynx don’t really need, but they’re also afraid to let go in case she becomes “the next big thing” like a Torrens or something. She doesn’t have the versatility in the WNBA to be anything other than a dedicated Maya backup. Iron woman Maya is coming into her prime. She doesn’t need a dedicated backup and there’s even talk from Reeve about Wright playing minutes at SF. So Zandalasini is working out to be one expensive insurance policy, especially if one of the costs in keeping her is letting a good player like Howard move on. The only explanation about Howard that I’d be happy with is that she wanted to be traded. The Lynx have been tight-lipped about the Howard trade, so that’s probably not the case.

So it got me thinking about why it’s so important for the Lynx to hold onto Zandalasini? Maya’s contract expires after this season. Are they worried about Maya moving on or maybe she’s already indicated she wants to move on? I’ve been maybe overly paranoid about Maya wanting to move on ever since she waited until April to sign her last contract three years ago. It’s not just that though. Other than doing her job and doing it well, Maya doesn’t seem very invested in the Minneapolis area.... compared to somebody like Augustus. Augustus bought a house in the area. Augustus married a person from the area. Augustus is wasting money on expensive cars she can’t even drive most of the time. Maya’s not doing any of that. Maya would see a penny on the ground in Minneapolis, pick it up and deposit it into her bank in Atlanta. Signing Maya to an extension now or in the near future would be a great way to alleviate those fears. Feel free, Reeve. Feel free. Anyway, there’s no way anybody can replace Maya, so why hold onto an expensive long term insurance policy? It seems that there are players maybe just as good as Zandalasini floating around in Europe all the time. Like that player from Sopron that SEA picked up. She’s looking pretty decent and versatile from the clips I’ve seen and is probably one of the keys to why little Sopron keeps winning. SEA picked her up out of the blue. Or how about that versatile player on Slooty’s overseas team who just scored a rare triple double? Seems the Lynx don’t really need to be married to Zandalasini or be making bad moves as a result of this marriage, but I guess we’ll see how everything works out. This could be a prime season for Lynx fans to be second guessing. /mini-rant over.



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Reeve seems really high on the 2019 draft, I on with her.
Hopefully Phoenix won't be top four and the 2019 second round pick Minny gets from them might be the same as the 12th pick this year.


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I missed the memo that Zandalasini was too expensive for the Lynx to keep her? Or more expensive then a player like a 29 year old Bahar Caglar who you all of a sudden like to much after 1 triple double. Bahar has reached her ceiling which is a starter at most and more of a role player on a good team in the Euroleague. They dont play the same position anyway



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Michelle89 wrote:
I missed the memo that Zandalasini was too expensive for the Lynx to keep her?


It looks like they can afford her under the current situation, but if they let go of Howard just to keep Zandalasini on the deep bench, then I’m not exactly happy. To me Pierson and Howard are greater than Kizer and Miyem. The Lynx bench front court took a step to the unknown and I’m guessing it’s a step back.

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Or more expensive then a player like a 29 year old Bahar Caglar who you all of a sudden like to much after 1 triple double. Bahar has reached her ceiling which is a starter at most and more of a role player on a good team in the Euroleague.


There’s nothing wrong with being 29. That’s the age Sonja Petrovic won EuroLeague player of the year. I’m not saying they Lynx should pursue Caglar. Maybe she’s not the best example of what’s available, but the point was there are good European players cropping up all time. They usually fall under the Lynx radar, but they’re there, and none are particularly reliable in showing up. Players like Petrovic, Xargay, Dabovic,... who am I forgetting?

How come you didn’t slight Crvendakic, because SEA signed her? Where did she come from and are there more like her out there?

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They dont play the same position anyway


That’s probably a good thing because one of my key points was the Lynx don’t need a dedicated backup for Maya.



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To be fair, Zand is not likely the reason they couldn't afford Howard. The had to get rid of Howard to sign both Wright and Robinson. While I do agree that if we were planning on signing Wright we didn't need Robinson as badly, we don't know exactly what the currents were and when Wright actually committed. But either way, Zand's contract wasn't going to affect that.

On the positive side, while we perhaps fell off a little on our back up posts, we are much stronger off the bench defensively in the back court.



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There's also the chance that they just didn't want to be the team paying Howard a multi-year max contract, so they cashed her in for as much as they could get. And then other stuff happened.



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I missed the memo that Zandalasini was too expensive for the Lynx to keep her?


It looks like they can afford her under the current situation, but if they let go of Howard just to keep Zandalasini on the deep bench, then I’m not exactly happy. To me Pierson and Howard are greater than Kizer and Miyem. The Lynx bench front court took a step to the unknown and I’m guessing it’s a step back.

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Or more expensive then a player like a 29 year old Bahar Caglar who you all of a sudden like to much after 1 triple double. Bahar has reached her ceiling which is a starter at most and more of a role player on a good team in the Euroleague.


There’s nothing wrong with being 29. That’s the age Sonja Petrovic won EuroLeague player of the year. I’m not saying they Lynx should pursue Caglar. Maybe she’s not the best example of what’s available, but the point was there are good European players cropping up all time. They usually fall under the Lynx radar, but they’re there, and none are particularly reliable in showing up. Players like Petrovic, Xargay, Dabovic,... who am I forgetting?

How come you didn’t slight Crvendakic, because SEA signed her? Where did she come from and are there more like her out there?

Michelle89 wrote:
They dont play the same position anyway


That’s probably a good thing because one of my key points was the Lynx don’t need a dedicated backup for Maya.


Nothing wrong for being 29 but i thought the Lynx should look at the future. They are old enough. Zandalasini and Crvendakic are 22 and 21 year old with lots of potential to grow. To be fair i dont know if Crvendakic is going to make the team. If Hughes will cut KML in favor for her but i like them giving her a chance in training camp to see what she can bring.



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To be fair, Zand is not likely the reason they couldn't afford Howard. The had to get rid of Howard to sign both Wright and Robinson. While I do agree that if we were planning on signing Wright we didn't need Robinson as badly, we don't know exactly what the currents were and when Wright actually committed. But either way, Zand's contract wasn't going to affect that.


As far as I know, the team knew that Montgomery was going to sign with Atlanta a week before Feb 1 so they knew they they needed room to explore guard options. They also needed to make room for Z's full season undrafted rookie contract (a little over $40k). Developing her as a wing allows them to give Maya more rest or move Maya to the 4 in some cases. I don't know whether they knew specifically about a DRob trade opportunity though or what it would take to get Tanisha Wright. They just knew they needed to have salary for at least two guards to be on the bench along with Jones.


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My guess as to what happened is this: Minnesota knew Renee was leaving. They also intended to keep 12 this year to develop Jones, Zandalasini and one other while still having 9 or 10 in a regular rotation. They did not want to offer a bench player a max contract when each of their starters had accepted a little less than max. I knew a team would offer max to try and steal it and found out over the weekend it was Seattle. Based on circumstantial evidence and guesswork, I don't think Minnesota decided until they knew they had Lynetta Kizer and that Seattle agreed to the sign-and-trade terms.

My other guess was that they were after Wright but so were others, including Las Vegas. I wonder if the opportunity for DRob was a late addition and only offered because the Mercury had been made the offer for Briann January. So, they took it because they couldn't predict Wright and needed a fallback. Wright gives them their full complement of 5 guards and takes away their need to make room for a 1st rounder this year.

They already have Zandalasini and Jones in their development queue. The final question is what role they see for Fagbenle. Do they see her as good enough to take rotation minutes backing up Fowles or will they use Kizer there? Could they have one more acquisition pending for a post to split minutes with?

Whalen/DRob/Jones
Augustus/Wright/(Jones)
Moore/Zandalasini
Brunson/Kizer/(Moore)
Fowles/Fagbenle/(Kizer)

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https://twitter.com/Lindsay_13/status/975459523006779392

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MCNIFF'S RIFFS: LOCAL TEAMS IN 'WIN NOW' MODE

http://www.kare11.com/mobile/article/opinion/columnists/mcniffs-riffs/mcniffs-riffs-local-teams-in-win-now-mode/89-529791491

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Having won four WNBA titles, no local team knows more about winning than the Minnesota Lynx. Yet, with a roster that has proven that it can win now (and isn’t getting any younger) head coach and new General Manager Cheryl Reeve has been making moves clearly aimed at making another title run.

Reeve, who spent time in the off-season with the Twins brain trust of Levine and Falvey sharing her wisdom on coaching philosophy and player motivation (while seeking to gain knowledge on the application of analytics) certainly hasn’t been sitting around waiting for office furniture to arrive.

First, Reeve traded the Lynx’ first round draft choice in next month’s WNBA Draft (#12 overall) to the Phoenix Mercury, for veteran guard Danielle Robinson and the Mercury’s second round pick in 2019. Then, Reeve signed free-agent guard Tanisha Wright to a contract for the upcoming season.

Both players, while not among the 'new blood' the roster needs, are said to favor an up-tempo style of basketball. Wright herself has been on the WNBA’s All-Defensive first team on five separate occasions. It’s clear Reeve wants her Lynx to be the hunters rather than the hunted in the season ahead.



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Wright is an excellent addition. I think an important factor there is you have a third physical wing player on defense. You won't need her to play many minutes, which is good also because her body probably can't handle it. However, the minutes she gives will be quality ones, plus she's another leadership type. We've seen the Lynx and LA play two championship series where a few possessions could have been a difference maker in the entire outcome. So I like adding someone even on the basis that she makes your team better for 5-10 possessions each game.

And, she's been the type to upgrade her game in the playoffs if her body allows it.



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Clarification on Lynx preseason games

The Lynx will open the WNBA preseason with a game against the Washington Mystics at Wells Fargo Arena in Des Moines on Sunday, May 6.

The other preseason game will be Saturday, May 12, against Chicago at 7 p.m. at Target Center. About time!

Timberwolves and Lynx owner Glen Taylor also owns the G League Iowa Wolves, who play in Des Moines.



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Don't let Taylor start talking to Dolan or the Lynx might move to Des Moines

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Randy wrote:
Don't let Taylor start talking to Dolan or the Lynx might move to Des Moines


Shouldn’t have to worry about that until they start losing again... like maybe when Maya leaves the team.

I looked it up. Wells Fargo Arena in Des Moines is pretty nice. It seats 16,110 for basketball.



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Oh, that's much too big. Dolan would never suggest that.



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Shades wrote:
Randy wrote:
Don't let Taylor start talking to Dolan or the Lynx might move to Des Moines


Shouldn’t have to worry about that until they start losing again... like maybe when Maya leaves the team.

I looked it up. Wells Fargo Arena in Des Moines is pretty nice. It seats 16,110 for basketball.


I was there for the 2012 regional. Pat Summitt's last games and the Baylor undefeated season. It's very nice and was great to watch WBB in. The area reminded me very much of Tulsa though so I'd wonder about a fan base.


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Some DRob stats I found. First of all, it’s the Hungarian league. I don’t think this is an EuroLeague level team. Her teammates include Fields and Goree, players that have never taken root in the WNBA.

She’s only played 7 games and her jersey number is blanked out, so I wonder if that’s an indication that she’s no longer active? [edit: I took a peek at awhom’s page. She does seem to be active]

Anyway, it shows she’s actually attempted threes, but with small sample size going 2-4. But then you look at that overall FG% of 38% and think what’s up with that? DRob should be destroying the Hungarian league instead of shaking my confidence in Reeve.



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With stevens declaring it made that drob trade so much worse , made the 2018 draft stronger and 2019 weaker ugh reeve pulled the damn trigger too early!


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blaase22 wrote:
With stevens declaring it made that drob trade so much worse , made the 2018 draft stronger and 2019 weaker ugh reeve pulled the damn trigger too early!


The 2019 draft still appears deeper, especially if Ionescu declares early.



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http://lynx.wnba.com/news/top-20-players-20-devereaux-peters/?sf186563061=1

To celebrate our 20th season, we have compiled a top-20 list of players in franchise history. We will release a new player each Monday, beginning April 9.

20- Devereaux Peters

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A 6-1 forward from Chicago, IL, Devereaux Peters was drafted by the Lynx with the third overall pick in the 2012 WNBA draft. In college at Notre Dame, she helped the Fighting Irish make three consecutive Sweet Sixteen appearances. Peters was also the 2012 Big East Conference Defensive Player of the Year.

Her best season came in 2013, when she appeared in every game for the Lynx and helped anchor the team’s defense off the bench as they won their second WNBA title. In that season, Peters averaged 4.1 points, 4.6 rebounds, and 1.0 blocks per game in 18 minutes. She ranked ninth in the league with 34 blocks.



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They’re only doing one a week? This is like a Megdal thing.

If Maya isn’t #1, me and spacejunkie are grabbing torches.

I’m not sure if ranking teammates is a good idea for promoting that team-first mentality.



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2019 much deeper IMO. This years top players all have ifs and buts.


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Dev Peters is the 20th-best Lynx of all time? This could be a rocky list until they hit the top six or seven.



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