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PostPosted: 02/06/18 10:24 am    ::: WNBA Draft 2018 (April 12th) Reply Reply with quote

Draft Day will be held Thursday, April 12 @ 7pm EST on ESPN.


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FIRST ROUND RECAP:
1. Aces - A'ja Wilson
2. Fever - Kelsey Mitchell
3. Sky - Diamond DeShields
4. Sky - Gabby Williams
5. Storm - Jordin Canada
6. Wings - Azura Stevens
7. Mystics - Ariel Atkins
8. Fever - Victoria Vivians
9. Sun - Lexie Brown
10. Liberty - Kia Nurse
11. Sparks - Maria Vadeeva
12. Mercury - Marie Gulich

ROUND TWO RECAP:
13. Aces - Jamie Nared
14. Fever - Stephanie Mavunga
15. Dream - Monique Billings
16. Dream - Kristy Wallace
17. Lynx - Ji-Su Park
18. Wings - Loryn Goodwin
19. Mystics - Myisha Hines-Allen
20. Mercury - Tyler Scaife
21. Mercury - Raisa Musina
22. Liberty - Mercedes Russell
23. Sparks - Shakayla Thomas
24. Lynx - Kahliah Lawrence



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PostPosted: 02/06/18 7:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Having a date is nice and all, and at some point I guess a venue will be organised, but what we really want to know is: who is going to be DJ'ing it this year?
Lisa Borders has got an established track record, but could DJ Lizzy C be a dark horse candidate now that she's returning to the W?



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PostPosted: 02/06/18 8:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Please let it be open to fans. Please let it be open to fans. Please let it be open to fans.



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PostPosted: 02/07/18 5:01 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Please let it be open to fans. Please let it be open to fans. Please let it be open to fans.


Please let it be nothing like last year



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PostPosted: 02/26/18 3:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The WNBA now has a team in Las Vegas and the Chicago Sky are moving to a new area in the heart of the city.
It would be a promotional coup if one of those teams would host the draft in their new home arenas. Cool



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PostPosted: 02/26/18 3:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

It's already been announced it's being held in NYC. Agreed it should've been in Las Vegas at least.



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PostPosted: 02/26/18 4:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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It's already been announced it's being held in NYC. Agreed it should've been in Las Vegas at least.

What venue in NYC is hosting the draft?



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PostPosted: 02/26/18 4:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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It's already been announced it's being held in NYC. Agreed it should've been in Las Vegas at least.

What venue in NYC is hosting the draft?


No one knows, but anything is better than where they had it last year.



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PostPosted: 02/26/18 7:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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toad455 wrote:
It's already been announced it's being held in NYC. Agreed it should've been in Las Vegas at least.

What venue in NYC is hosting the draft?


No one knows, but anything is better than where they had it last year.


Yeah, you don't want the top pick to get nearly hit with someone's mobile phone, like Kelsey Plum almost did at the Samsung 837 building last year! Rolling Eyes




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PostPosted: 02/26/18 7:20 pm    ::: Re: WNBA Draft 2018 Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Draft Day will be held Thursday, April 12 @ 7pm EST on ESPN.


As I recall, last year's draft date (as reported by CBS Sports) was originally supposed to take place on April 10, 2017, but was actually held on April 13th.

To this day, I still don't know why the WNBA wanted to have that draft in such a small place like the Samsung 837, where it would've been more suitable as a draft viewing party, but not to have the draft itself. I'm guessing only to please corporate sponsors.



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PostPosted: 02/26/18 8:48 pm    ::: Re: WNBA Draft 2018 Reply Reply with quote

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toad455 wrote:
Draft Day will be held Thursday, April 12 @ 7pm EST on ESPN.


As I recall, last year's draft date (as reported by CBS Sports) was originally supposed to take place on April 10, 2017, but was actually held on April 13th.

To this day, I still don't know why the WNBA wanted to have that draft in such a small place like the Samsung 837, where it would've been more suitable as a draft viewing party, but not to have the draft itself. I'm guessing only to please corporate sponsors.


The CBS Sports article was written by Medgal, if I recall. His track record for presenting accurate information is not good. I'll forgive last year's miss if they make up for it this year with a proper venue/show.


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PostPosted: 02/27/18 8:19 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Is there a pre-draft combine this year?



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Is there a pre-draft combine this year?


Great question , one that needs answering . I have the slightest feeling the WNBA offices have not even thought about the pre-draft combine Laughing



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PostPosted: 02/27/18 12:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Is there a pre-draft combine this year?


There hasn't been a combine for several years.


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PostPosted: 02/27/18 12:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The combines are pretty much a waste of time. The guards dominate the ball and jack up shots; the wings jack up shots; and the posts hope to get some rebounds so they can jack up shots.



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PostPosted: 02/27/18 12:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Is there a pre-draft combine this year?


There hasn't been a combine for several years.


Not an official one, anyway. There is at least one privately run combine.



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PostPosted: 02/27/18 12:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

And the private ones tend to be for the fringe players hoping for a training camp look and/or an overseas contract, not the lottery picks or first-rounders. A proper league-organised thing where everyone comes and they get official measurements (like the NFL) hasn't been done by the WNBA in aaaaaages.



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PostPosted: 02/27/18 1:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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The combines are pretty much a waste of time. The guards dominate the ball and jack up shots; the wings jack up shots; and the posts hope to get some rebounds so they can jack up shots.


so true. I saw one of the younger age USA tryouts a few years back and it was exactly like this. I think it was pretty much decided before hand and the tryouts were just a show.



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PostPosted: 02/27/18 2:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Rock Hard wrote:
Is there a pre-draft combine this year?


Great question , one that needs answering . I have the slightest feeling the WNBA offices have not even thought about the pre-draft combine Laughing


There are several private combines held every year at the Final Four site. Most if not all of the teams are there to look. With all of the basketball taking place over the winter, though, most of the decent players have been seen already so very little comes of it.


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PostPosted: 02/27/18 4:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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ClayK wrote:
The combines are pretty much a waste of time. The guards dominate the ball and jack up shots; the wings jack up shots; and the posts hope to get some rebounds so they can jack up shots.


so true. I saw one of the younger age USA tryouts a few years back and it was exactly like this. I think it was pretty much decided before hand and the tryouts were just a show.


Actually the USA Basketball tryouts generally result in one or two surprises -- Sabrina Ionescu being the most obvious example. She was a complete unknown when she arrived, and out of a 130 or so who were there, she made the top 12.



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PostPosted: 02/28/18 12:05 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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And the private ones tend to be for the fringe players hoping for a training camp look and/or an overseas contract, not the lottery picks or first-rounders. A proper league-organised thing where everyone comes and they get official measurements (like the NFL) hasn't been done by the WNBA in aaaaaages.

How do head coaches and general managers get accurate information about the players they want to draft? Depending on colleges to deliver accurate height and weight of basketball players is a joke. Are head coaches allowed to interview college seniors before the draft?



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Rock Hard wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
And the private ones tend to be for the fringe players hoping for a training camp look and/or an overseas contract, not the lottery picks or first-rounders. A proper league-organised thing where everyone comes and they get official measurements (like the NFL) hasn't been done by the WNBA in aaaaaages.

How do head coaches and general managers get accurate information about the players they want to draft? Depending on colleges to deliver accurate height and weight of basketball players is a joke. Are head coaches allowed to interview college seniors before the draft?


They can interview players once their senior season is over.



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I've been hoping for awhile now that Kia Nurse would drop to the Libs at 10. But I feel like it's consensus that her performance against Asia Durr defensively upgraded her stock? I know I was overwhelmingly impressed. My thought process is she definitely doesn't get past CT at 9, so if the Libs want her they would have to trade up to do it.



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The Liberty's biggest need is a SF or PF. I'm hoping for Billings or even Nared at #10.



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Draft to be held at the new Nike headquarters in New York. Draft not open to the public.

http://www.wnba.com/news/wnba-draft-2018-presented-state-farm-held-april-12-new-york/



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toad455 wrote:
Draft to be held at the new Nike headquarters in New York. Draft not open to the public.

http://www.wnba.com/news/wnba-draft-2018-presented-state-farm-held-april-12-new-york/


It’s part of their new partnership with Nike, and of course Borders is thrilled with this new venue. They’re holding it in an indoor basketball court so at least it should be spacious enough.




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toad455 wrote:
Draft to be held at the new Nike headquarters in New York. Draft not open to the public.

http://www.wnba.com/news/wnba-draft-2018-presented-state-farm-held-april-12-new-york/


Whats the point of closing it off to the public ? Rolling Eyes



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PostPosted: 03/12/18 1:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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toad455 wrote:
Draft to be held at the new Nike headquarters in New York. Draft not open to the public.

http://www.wnba.com/news/wnba-draft-2018-presented-state-farm-held-april-12-new-york/


Whats the point of closing it off to the public ? Rolling Eyes


my thoughts exactly. There clearly seems to be enough space to even have a limited amount of people to attend from the public(~500).




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Maybe they were afraid Liberty fans would show up in force and hold ESPN, Border and the draftees hostage until they got Dolan's head on a platter.



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They should have held it at Westchester to show off the new venue.



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They should of held it at Westchester to show off the new venue.


Hahahahahah!!!!



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That is probably the best way to avoid any ugly mob scene of Liberty fans who might be picketing or burning Dolan in effigy on draft night.



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Supposedly that court has seating for 400 spectators. It would have killed them to open it to the public? SMH.

I've had the privilege to be in the room where it happens, or at least the room where it's announced, four times, and each time has been an entirely different kind of magic. Every fan should get to experience that. It bothers me that a league that was built so much on approachability is fencing itself off more and more.



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That is probably the best way to avoid any ugly mob scene of Liberty fans who might be picketing or burning Dolan in effigy on draft night.


The WNBA is probably preparing for the near future for when all WNBA games will be closed to the public. Surprised


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Great idea SpaceJunkie. Maybe they will do it like a TV game show, or comedy where they have a live studio audience of a hundred people or so to create the crowd noise on command.



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"This episode of WNBA League Pass was filmed in front of a live studio audience."



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Supposedly that court has seating for 400 spectators. It would have killed them to open it to the public? SMH.

I've had the privilege to be in the room where it happens, or at least the room where it's announced, four times, and each time has been an entirely different kind of magic. Every fan should get to experience that. It bothers me that a league that was built so much on approachability is fencing itself off more and more.


Actually, IMO the league started to splinter into an upper and lower class under Laurel Richie. The local teams are expected to be approachable and fan-friendly. But the league office is executive country, manned by business people to whom only money and status matters. Creating this sort of VIP-only event is similar to what much of the All-Star experience is now.The just assume that the committed fans will plunk down multiple thousands for seats and merchandise. They do little besides assigning you a new-to-the-biz customer rep every couple of years (because the old one leaves) and maybe have 3 or 4 giveaway nights. So, yes, it doesn't surprise me one bit.


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Supposedly that court has seating for 400 spectators. It would have killed them to open it to the public? SMH.

I've had the privilege to be in the room where it happens, or at least the room where it's announced, four times, and each time has been an entirely different kind of magic. Every fan should get to experience that. It bothers me that a league that was built so much on approachability is fencing itself off more and more.


Actually, IMO the league started to splinter into an upper and lower class under Laurel Richie. The local teams are expected to be approachable and fan-friendly. But the league office is executive country, manned by business people to whom only money and status matters. Creating this sort of VIP-only event is similar to what much of the All-Star experience is now.The just assume that the committed fans will plunk down multiple thousands for seats and merchandise. They do little besides assigning you a new-to-the-biz customer rep every couple of years (because the old one leaves) and maybe have 3 or 4 giveaway nights. So, yes, it doesn't surprise me one bit.


Yeah, I miss some of the early All-Star stuff too. And I feel you on the customer service reps, though that's a team problem more than a league problem. I think we've been through half a dozen.

I think the league's got to step back and ask itself what it wants to be. Does it want to be the women's NBA, with all the glitz, and glamour, and ever-so-professional distance that implies? Or does the league want to try to be something different, something closer to earth and closer to reality? Or is there a middle ground, where we can have some of the shiny veneer but still keep some of the closeness and realness that drew so many fans here in the first place?



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Supposedly that court has seating for 400 spectators. It would have killed them to open it to the public? SMH.

I've had the privilege to be in the room where it happens, or at least the room where it's announced, four times, and each time has been an entirely different kind of magic. Every fan should get to experience that. It bothers me that a league that was built so much on approachability is fencing itself off more and more.


Actually, IMO the league started to splinter into an upper and lower class under Laurel Richie. The local teams are expected to be approachable and fan-friendly. But the league office is executive country, manned by business people to whom only money and status matters. Creating this sort of VIP-only event is similar to what much of the All-Star experience is now.The just assume that the committed fans will plunk down multiple thousands for seats and merchandise. They do little besides assigning you a new-to-the-biz customer rep every couple of years (because the old one leaves) and maybe have 3 or 4 giveaway nights. So, yes, it doesn't surprise me one bit.


Yeah, I miss some of the early All-Star stuff too. And I feel you on the customer service reps, though that's a team problem more than a league problem. I think we've been through half a dozen.

I think the league's got to step back and ask itself what it wants to be. Does it want to be the women's NBA, with all the glitz, and glamour, and ever-so-professional distance that implies? Or does the league want to try to be something different, something closer to earth and closer to reality? Or is there a middle ground, where we can have some of the shiny veneer but still keep some of the closeness and realness that drew so many fans here in the first place?


The league has to recognize that it needs to act differently from the NBA. For example, ever notice that the press manages to break a trade or story days before it is officially announced? That's for two reasons: 1) the media members are not passive and actively chase people for news and 2) the teams LEAK INFO as sources. The WNBA is lucky if they have one local writer who they can reach out to for a story. And, they are completely tight-lipped about most things so that we rarely get any information until they actually release it. The result is that they can carefully control the image, I suppose, but it leaves a lot of dead news days with little for the actual sports fans to talk about. It's definitely not like the NBA where we can already talk about upcoming seasons. Who has opt-out clauses in their contracts, what can each team afford, etc.

Is the WNBA a sports league or an entertainment league whose entertainment is a basketball game? Because right now it's the latter to me.


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Defining the WNBA has been an issue from the start, really ...

Some have seen it as a cause.

Some have seen it as a potential major sport, the premier women's sports league in the world.

Some see it as a niche sport that is best viewed in smaller venues.

Some see it as the best women's basketball league in the world, and thus one that should be played in NBA and other large arenas.

Most see it as a mixture of several of these concepts, but I think the point made upthread is valid: Defining the league will, in essence, define its goals, and thus make it clearer what path to take.



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Two biggest hurdles are:

1.. Most women don't play or like basketball.
2.. Most men aren't currently attracted to women's basketball or biologically attracted to most of the women players.

So, how does one overcome these hurdles?

a.. Definitely not by how the WNBA has been run.
b.. WNBA executives and employees must be more available and open to conversation, questions and interactions.
c.. WNBA Drafts should be open to the public or at least fans.
d.. To get women to come to the games, one must encourage interest of the children in women's basketball.
e.. To get men, women and children more attracted to women's basketball rid the mostly fake photos and images of the players as being bad asses with mean faces and mean spirits.
f.. Recruit or have the "so called" women's advocates with popularity, fame and money step forward, i.e., Oprah, Hillary, Beyonce, younger Hollywood celebrities and pop stars etc. Where are they?
e.. The players need to step up and get more involved in helping to promote the game and their teams. It's not just the owners or WNBA executives responsibility to grow and nurture a struggling business. It takes hard work and time by everyone including the fans.
f.. Create a more family atmosphere, i.e., have some of the willing players interact and converse with their children publicly and in the media so there becomes an attraction to the game, players and children.
g.. The players need to be more open into their lives. To gain an attraction to players one has to get to know them or learn things about them.
h.. Ensure that all ticket reps and greeters are educated and trained in customer service and are helpful and friendly.
i.. Clean up the players. Most women don't want to be exposed or have their children exposed to blue hair, tons of tattoos, nose rings, gangster looks etc. Model after the Connecticut program and players.
j.. Clean up the language on the floor by the players and coaches.
k.. Try to get the NBA more involved financially and promotionally. With all the money taken in by the NBA, they can easily step in to make the game more attractive and financially better.
l.. The WNBA definitely needs to provide more information, timely information and continued information during the women's basketball season and all year.
m.. The WNBA definitely needs to promote their players during the off season to inform and educate the fans as to the players off-season ventures and accomplishments.
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SpaceJunkie wrote:
Randy wrote:
That is probably the best way to avoid any ugly mob scene of Liberty fans who might be picketing or burning Dolan in effigy on draft night.


The WNBA is probably preparing for the near future for when all WNBA games will be closed to the public. :o


And the Mystics would still announce a crowd of 9000.


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Most of all sell the sport for what it is and quite trying to mimic what the NBA uses as a selling point. The Women can not compete in those areas so they shouldn't even try. Like making a big deal out of dunks. Last time I checked dunks only counted as two points. Actually most of us that watch the women's game do so because they do not promote flash at the expense of substance that the game of basketball once was.


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willtalk wrote:
Most of all sell the sport for what it is and quite trying to mimic what the NBA uses as a selling point. The Women can not compete in those areas so they shouldn't even try. Like making a big deal out of dunks. Last time I checked dunks only counted as two points. Actually most of us that watch the women's game do so because they do not promote flash at the expense of substance that the game of basketball once was.

PREEEEEEEEEEEACH.


Stuff like this is honestly embarrassing.


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Locks to get invited to the draft? Last year only saw 10 invites & 2016 saw only 12. Considering the depth of this year's draft, there should be 15 or 16 invites.

Locks:
Wilson
Stevens
Mitchell
G. Williams
DeShields
Vivians
Canada
L. Brown
Nurse
Russell
Billings

Possible invite:
Mavunga
Gulich
Hines-Allen
Atkins
J. Barta
M. William
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My first alma mater has someone who wants in. Go Bucs!

ETSU's Tianna Tarter sets her sights on the upcoming WNBA draft


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I think Toad's top 9 are clear invites. After that it will be a coin toss.
Will Diamond be in the States? I thought her team in Turkey was still playing.



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PostPosted: 04/04/18 11:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Yeah, the Turkish season is a long way from over. Unless Cukurova allow her to make a special trip back for it, DeShields will presumably not be at the draft.



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Top 12 Draft Prospects from the Storm website, including some highlights & stats for each

http://storm.wnba.com/news/top-12-wnba-draft-prospects-of-2018/


Quote:
A’JA WILSON

Let’s get straight to the point – Wilson is bound to be a premier post in the WNBA. As a junior in 2016-17, the 6-5 lefty led South Carolina to its first NCAA championship, and, during her senior season, collected nearly every national award, including – Citizen Naismith Women’s Player of the Year, Lisa Leslie Award, SEC Defensive Player of the Year (second time), SEC Player of the Year (third time) and Associated Press (AP) National Player of the Year. After cashing in 2,389 points and 1,195 rebounds during her illustrious career at South Carolina, it’s no secret why the AP and panel of WNBA coaches and general managers tabbed Wilson as the top pick in this year’s draft.

Position: Center
Height: 6-5
College: South Carolina
2017-18 stats: 22.6 PPG, 11.8 RPG, 54.2 FG%

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PostPosted: 04/06/18 3:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Luuuc wrote:
Top 12 Draft Prospects from the Storm website, including some highlights & stats for each

http://storm.wnba.com/news/top-12-wnba-draft-prospects-of-2018/


Some of the positions listed - especially for Gabby Williams and Azura Stevens - are a little suspect, but it is a good summary of the perceived top prospects, with highlights to boot.


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