| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
myrtle
Joined: 02 May 2008
Posts: 22114
Back to top |
|
GlennMacGrady
Joined: 03 Jan 2005
Posts: 4745
Location: Heisenberg
Back to top |
 Posted: 03/09/18 9:17 am ::: |
Reply  |
|
| I don't follow FIBA regularly. Why is Musina never mentioned as a draftee? Is it clear for some reason that she isn't interested in the W or that the W would not be interested in her? Just curious. |
|
RavenDog
Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Posts: 5710
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/09/18 12:53 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| Nerd2 wrote: |
| RavenDog wrote: |
Subject to Change in a heartbeat
Mock Draft |
The only question I have is about Dallas taking another center. I recognize that Akhator and Lewis didn't show much last year but Akhator is at least playing overseas and for her NT. If they penciled her in as their backup center, would you see them taking someone else? |
These picks are just guesses of whom they might take in the Draft, not necessarily mine. To be honest, I don't like Russell that high but thinking about what they need as a backup Center and Fred picking, I slotted her in there.
As for DeShields, I doubt she will accept going to Chicago, if chosen, as she wants to play for Dallas and Diamond usually {always?} gets what she wants.
Barring a trade and Diamond refusing, I'd guess two of these three for Chicago: Vivians, Williams and Nurse.
_________________
|
|
WNBA 09
Joined: 26 Jun 2009
Posts: 5417
Location: Dallas , Texas
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/09/18 1:07 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| RavenDog wrote: |
| Nerd2 wrote: |
| RavenDog wrote: |
Subject to Change in a heartbeat
Mock Draft |
The only question I have is about Dallas taking another center. I recognize that Akhator and Lewis didn't show much last year but Akhator is at least playing overseas and for her NT. If they penciled her in as their backup center, would you see them taking someone else? |
These picks are just guesses of whom they might take in the Draft, not necessarily mine. To be honest, I don't like Russell that high but thinking about what they need as a backup Center and Fred picking, I slotted her in there.
As for DeShields, I doubt she will accept going to Chicago, if chosen, as she wants to play for Dallas and Diamond usually {always?} gets what she wants.
Barring a trade and Diamond refusing, I'd guess two of these three for Chicago: Vivians, Williams and Nurse. |
I agree ive gotten low on russell over the past few weeks , but i still think Fred and bibb take her , she is the only person in this draft remotely close to filling our need of a back up post.
_________________
3-Time WNBA Champion-3-Time National Champion-4-Time Olympic Champion....And Yes DT "We Got Confeti" lol
|
|
RavenDog
Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Posts: 5710
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/09/18 1:07 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| Shades wrote: |
| toad455 wrote: |
| If Vadeeva says she's playing this season, so that lock her into #2? Would Chicago pass on her with Dolson, Coates & Parker already at center? |
I was worried about Spooner becoming obsessed with Vadeeva. Turns out toad is the most obsessed.
Pokey wanted that #8 pick for a reason. Mitchell or DeShields are unlikely to be around at #8. Vadeeva could be around at #8. If she’s not, no big deal. Grab another nice player. |
My guess on Vadeeva is that she's locked into one or maybe two teams. If they pick her, she might come over but for how long? I don't think she wants to come over to just play in the WNBA but to play for a championship likely team.
_________________
|
|
Shades
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 46699
Back to top |
|
RavenDog
Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Posts: 5710
Back to top |
|
pilight
Joined: 23 Sep 2004
Posts: 56048
Location: Where the action is
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/09/18 2:01 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| Yeah, what the Sparks really need is another post player for Agler to sit on the bench
_________________
Love is a magical thing
Love will make you feel like a queen or a king
Unicorns, rainbows, lucky charms
Await you in your true love’s arms
|
|
Nerd2
Joined: 06 Jun 2010
Posts: 7659
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/09/18 2:19 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
This is how rumors start. One person says
| Quote: |
| My guess on Vadeeva is that she's locked into one or maybe two teams" |
based on absolutely nothing but a gut feeling. Another chimes in with
| Quote: |
| Not sure why, but I have a feeling Vadeeva would prefer being with the Sparks |
based on noticing she plays with Nneka and ignoring Prince and McCoughtry on the same team.
And now suddenly we have a discussion about how a 19 year old is placing diva-ish constraints on where she will go. Sure, folks are entitled to their opinions but this is called creating gossip. Folks will come into this discussion assuming that there was some basis for starting it and take it as fact.
|
|
Shades
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 46699
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/09/18 2:19 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| pilight wrote: |
| Yeah, what the Sparks really need is another post player for Agler to sit on the bench |
Sparks don’t “need” a lot, but they could use another post player. They only have 4 now and one of them is TJJ. And she can show up when she’s able so not a lot of pressure.
_________________
Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
|
|
Richyyy
Joined: 17 Nov 2005
Posts: 19947
Location: London
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/09/18 2:21 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| GlennMacGrady wrote: |
| I don't follow FIBA regularly. Why is Musina never mentioned as a draftee? Is it clear for some reason that she isn't interested in the W or that the W would not be interested in her? Just curious. |
Some of us have mentioned her, and she definitely has an interesting set of skills. I wouldn't be surprised if someone took her in the third round (or even the second if they've run out of appealing Americans). But she hasn't had the playing time or success of Vadeeva (plus true bigs always draw more interest because there just aren't that many), so there hasn't been the same level of hype.
I haven't seen a single public comment from either of them about whether or not they have the slightest interest in the WNBA. But some of us have suggested that if a team takes Vadeeva early, maybe they'd take Musina later on so that they could come over as a package deal. Might make the transition easier (although I also have no idea if they're actually friends). |
|
Shades
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 46699
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/09/18 9:20 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| Shades wrote: |
https://summitthoops.com/2018/03/02/2018-wnba-draft-big-board-v-3-0-ranking-underclassmen/2/
1. Las Vegas Aces: A’ja Wilson, 6/5 F/C South Carolina
2. Indiana Fever: Kelsey Mitchell, 5’8 G Ohio State
3. Chicago Sky: Diamond DeShields, 6’1 F Tennessee
4. Chicago Sky: Gabby Williams, 5’11 F Connecticut
5. Seattle Storm: Jordin Canada, 5’6 G UCLA
6. Dallas Wings: Lexie Brown, 5’9 G Duke (+2)
7. Washington Mystics: Kia Nurse 6′ G Connecticut (+5)
8. Phoenix Mercury Maria Vadeeva, 6’3 C Russia (-2)
9. Connecticut Sun: Victoria Vivians, 6’1 F, Mississippi State
10. New York Liberty: Ariel Atkins 5’11 G/F Texas (+8)
11. Los Angeles Sparks: Stephanie Mavunga 6’3 F/C Ohio State
12. Minnesota Lynx: Katelynn Flaherty 5’7 G Michigan (+4)
13. Las Vegas Monique Billings, 6’4 F UCLA (-3)
14. Indiana Tyler Scaife, 5’9 G Rutgers (-3)
15. Connecticut Jaime Nared, 6’2 G/F Tennessee
16. Atlanta Brook McCarty 5’4 G Texas (+6)
17. Minnesota Mercedes Russell 6’6 C Tennessee (Bargain!)
18. Dallas Shakayla Thomas 5’11 F Florida State (-5)
19. Washington Taeler Deer 5’5 G Texas State
20. Phoenix AJ Alix 5’6 G Florida State
21. Phoenix Vionise Pierre-Louis 6’4 C Oklahoma
22. New York Marie Gulich 6’5 C Oregon State (+NE)
23. Los Angeles Natalie Butler 6’5 C George Mason (+1)
24. Minnesota Rebecca Greenwell 6’1 G/F Duke (+3)
25. Las Vegas Jackie Kemph 5’7 G St. Louis
26. Phoenix Morgan William 5’5 G Mississippi State (-3)
27. Atlanta Loryn Goodwin 5’9 G Oklahoma State (-1)
28. Chicago Ke’Shunan James 6’1 G/F Murray State
29. Seattle Teana Muldrow 6’1 F West Virginia
30. Dallas Tyra Buss 5’8 G Indiana
31. Washington Gabbi Ortiz 5’9 G Oklahoma
32. Las Vegas Kolby Morgan 5’8 G Tulane (+3)
33. Connecticut Lexi Bando 5’9 G/F Oregon
34. New York Kristen Confroy 5’9 G Maryland
35. Los Angeles Myisha Hines-Allen 6’2 F Louisville (-3)
36. Minnesota Carlie Wagner 5’10 G Minnesota |
https://summitthoops.com/2018/03/09/2018-wnba-draft-big-board-trade-aftermath/amp/2/ (His analysis at the link)
1. Las Vegas Aces: A’ja Wilson, 6/5 F/C South Carolina
2. Indiana Fever: Kelsey Mitchell, 5’8 G Ohio State
3. Chicago Sky: Diamond DeShields, 6’1 F Tennessee
4. Chicago Sky: Gabby Williams, 5’11 F Connecticut
5. Seattle Storm: Jordin Canada, 5’6 G UCLA
6. Dallas Wings: Lexie Brown, 5’9 G Duke
7. Washington Mystics: Victoria Vivians, 6’1 F, Mississippi State (+2)
8. Indiana Fever: Maria Vadeeva, 6’3 C Russia
9. Connecticut Sun: Kia Nurse 6′ G Connecticut. (-2)
10. New York Liberty: Ariel Atkins 5’11 G/F Texas
11. Los Angeles Sparks: Stephanie Mavunga 6’3 F/C Ohio State
12. Phoenix Mercury: Monique Billings, 6’4 F UCLA (+1)
13. Las Vegas Shakayla Thomas 5’11 F Florida State (+5)
14. Indiana Tyler Scaife, 5’9 G Rutgers
15. Connecticut Jaime Nared, 6’2 G/F Tennessee
16. Atlanta Brook McCarty 5’4 G Texas
17. Minnesota Mercedes Russell 6’6 C Tennessee
18. Dallas Katelynn Flaherty 5’7 G Michigan (-6)
19. Washington Taeler Deer 5’5 G Texas State
20. Phoenix AJ Alix 5’6 G Florida State
21. Phoenix Vionise Pierre-Louis 6’4 C Oklahoma
22. New York Myisha Hines-Allen 6’2 F Louisville (+13)
23. Los Angeles Natalie Butler 6’5 C George Mason
24. Minnesota Rebecca Greenwell 6’1 G/F Duke
25. Las Vegas Jackie Kemph 5’7 G St. Louis
26. Phoenix Morgan William 5’5 G Mississippi State
27. Atlanta Loryn Goodwin 5’9 G Oklahoma State
28. Chicago Marie Gulich 6’5 C Oregon State (-6)
29. Seattle Teana Muldrow 6’1 F West Virginia
30. Dallas Tyra Buss 5’8 G Indiana
31. Washington Gabbi Ortiz 5’9 G Oklahoma
32. Las Vegas Kolby Morgan 5’8 G Tulane
33. Connecticut Lexi Bando 5’9 G/F Oregon
34. New York Kristen Confroy 5’9 G Maryland
35. Los Angeles Ke’Shunan James 6’1 G/F Murray State (-7)
36. Minnesota Carli Wagner 5’10 G Minnesota
#8 - Different team owns this pick since his last mock draft, but the same player is chosen. Makes more sense this time.
Does he have enough guards going to Dallas?
Has Thibault really shown an interest in this Taeler Deer? Seems like his most random pick.
Laimbeer laughed at the notion that he’d choose multiple mid-major players in Megdal’s very first mock draft ever. I guess he didn’t learn from that. 
_________________
Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
|
|
pilight
Joined: 23 Sep 2004
Posts: 56048
Location: Where the action is
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/09/18 10:35 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| Shades wrote: |
| pilight wrote: |
| Yeah, what the Sparks really need is another post player for Agler to sit on the bench |
Sparks don’t “need” a lot, but they could use another post player. They only have 4 now and one of them is TJJ. And she can show up when she’s able so not a lot of pressure. |
My question was more of why would she want to play for LA when she wouldn't actually get to play?
_________________
Love is a magical thing
Love will make you feel like a queen or a king
Unicorns, rainbows, lucky charms
Await you in your true love’s arms
|
|
Shades
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 46699
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/09/18 11:28 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| pilight wrote: |
| Shades wrote: |
| pilight wrote: |
| Yeah, what the Sparks really need is another post player for Agler to sit on the bench |
Sparks don’t “need” a lot, but they could use another post player. They only have 4 now and one of them is TJJ. And she can show up when she’s able so not a lot of pressure. |
My question was more of why would she want to play for LA when she wouldn't actually get to play? |
It sounded like you were talking about the Sparks needed, not her needs. But who knows what she wants? At 20 years old, maybe she doesn’t want the high expectations and pressure. Cambage didn’t seem to want it. With the Sparks, Vadeeva could conceivably work her way up to first post off the bench if she’s really all that good. If she’s good and she ends up showing up every year, she helps alleviate cap space (Lavender takes a pay cut or gets traded).
Oh, and Vadeeva only averages 20 mpg on her current team, so it’s not like she’s developed this feeling of entitlement for big minutes.
_________________
Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
|
|
WNBA 09
Joined: 26 Jun 2009
Posts: 5417
Location: Dallas , Texas
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/10/18 10:35 am ::: |
Reply |
|
| Shades wrote: |
| Shades wrote: |
https://summitthoops.com/2018/03/02/2018-wnba-draft-big-board-v-3-0-ranking-underclassmen/2/
1. Las Vegas Aces: A’ja Wilson, 6/5 F/C South Carolina
2. Indiana Fever: Kelsey Mitchell, 5’8 G Ohio State
3. Chicago Sky: Diamond DeShields, 6’1 F Tennessee
4. Chicago Sky: Gabby Williams, 5’11 F Connecticut
5. Seattle Storm: Jordin Canada, 5’6 G UCLA
6. Dallas Wings: Lexie Brown, 5’9 G Duke (+2)
7. Washington Mystics: Kia Nurse 6′ G Connecticut (+5)
8. Phoenix Mercury Maria Vadeeva, 6’3 C Russia (-2)
9. Connecticut Sun: Victoria Vivians, 6’1 F, Mississippi State
10. New York Liberty: Ariel Atkins 5’11 G/F Texas (+8)
11. Los Angeles Sparks: Stephanie Mavunga 6’3 F/C Ohio State
12. Minnesota Lynx: Katelynn Flaherty 5’7 G Michigan (+4)
13. Las Vegas Monique Billings, 6’4 F UCLA (-3)
14. Indiana Tyler Scaife, 5’9 G Rutgers (-3)
15. Connecticut Jaime Nared, 6’2 G/F Tennessee
16. Atlanta Brook McCarty 5’4 G Texas (+6)
17. Minnesota Mercedes Russell 6’6 C Tennessee (Bargain!)
18. Dallas Shakayla Thomas 5’11 F Florida State (-5)
19. Washington Taeler Deer 5’5 G Texas State
20. Phoenix AJ Alix 5’6 G Florida State
21. Phoenix Vionise Pierre-Louis 6’4 C Oklahoma
22. New York Marie Gulich 6’5 C Oregon State (+NE)
23. Los Angeles Natalie Butler 6’5 C George Mason (+1)
24. Minnesota Rebecca Greenwell 6’1 G/F Duke (+3)
25. Las Vegas Jackie Kemph 5’7 G St. Louis
26. Phoenix Morgan William 5’5 G Mississippi State (-3)
27. Atlanta Loryn Goodwin 5’9 G Oklahoma State (-1)
28. Chicago Ke’Shunan James 6’1 G/F Murray State
29. Seattle Teana Muldrow 6’1 F West Virginia
30. Dallas Tyra Buss 5’8 G Indiana
31. Washington Gabbi Ortiz 5’9 G Oklahoma
32. Las Vegas Kolby Morgan 5’8 G Tulane (+3)
33. Connecticut Lexi Bando 5’9 G/F Oregon
34. New York Kristen Confroy 5’9 G Maryland
35. Los Angeles Myisha Hines-Allen 6’2 F Louisville (-3)
36. Minnesota Carlie Wagner 5’10 G Minnesota |
https://summitthoops.com/2018/03/09/2018-wnba-draft-big-board-trade-aftermath/amp/2/ (His analysis at the link)
1. Las Vegas Aces: A’ja Wilson, 6/5 F/C South Carolina
2. Indiana Fever: Kelsey Mitchell, 5’8 G Ohio State
3. Chicago Sky: Diamond DeShields, 6’1 F Tennessee
4. Chicago Sky: Gabby Williams, 5’11 F Connecticut
5. Seattle Storm: Jordin Canada, 5’6 G UCLA
6. Dallas Wings: Lexie Brown, 5’9 G Duke
7. Washington Mystics: Victoria Vivians, 6’1 F, Mississippi State (+2)
8. Indiana Fever: Maria Vadeeva, 6’3 C Russia
9. Connecticut Sun: Kia Nurse 6′ G Connecticut. (-2)
10. New York Liberty: Ariel Atkins 5’11 G/F Texas
11. Los Angeles Sparks: Stephanie Mavunga 6’3 F/C Ohio State
12. Phoenix Mercury: Monique Billings, 6’4 F UCLA (+1)
13. Las Vegas Shakayla Thomas 5’11 F Florida State (+5)
14. Indiana Tyler Scaife, 5’9 G Rutgers
15. Connecticut Jaime Nared, 6’2 G/F Tennessee
16. Atlanta Brook McCarty 5’4 G Texas
17. Minnesota Mercedes Russell 6’6 C Tennessee
18. Dallas Katelynn Flaherty 5’7 G Michigan (-6)
19. Washington Taeler Deer 5’5 G Texas State
20. Phoenix AJ Alix 5’6 G Florida State
21. Phoenix Vionise Pierre-Louis 6’4 C Oklahoma
22. New York Myisha Hines-Allen 6’2 F Louisville (+13)
23. Los Angeles Natalie Butler 6’5 C George Mason
24. Minnesota Rebecca Greenwell 6’1 G/F Duke
25. Las Vegas Jackie Kemph 5’7 G St. Louis
26. Phoenix Morgan William 5’5 G Mississippi State
27. Atlanta Loryn Goodwin 5’9 G Oklahoma State
28. Chicago Marie Gulich 6’5 C Oregon State (-6)
29. Seattle Teana Muldrow 6’1 F West Virginia
30. Dallas Tyra Buss 5’8 G Indiana
31. Washington Gabbi Ortiz 5’9 G Oklahoma
32. Las Vegas Kolby Morgan 5’8 G Tulane
33. Connecticut Lexi Bando 5’9 G/F Oregon
34. New York Kristen Confroy 5’9 G Maryland
35. Los Angeles Ke’Shunan James 6’1 G/F Murray State (-7)
36. Minnesota Carli Wagner 5’10 G Minnesota
#8 - Different team owns this pick since his last mock draft, but the same player is chosen. Makes more sense this time.
Does he have enough guards going to Dallas?
Has Thibault really shown an interest in this Taeler Deer? Seems like his most random pick.
Laimbeer laughed at the notion that he’d choose multiple mid-major players in Megdal’s very first mock draft ever. I guess he didn’t learn from that. |
It just gets worse & worse. This is the most disrespectful mock ive seen for my team.  3 small guards , sitting in a tree all wanting to fly with the Dallas wings 
_________________
3-Time WNBA Champion-3-Time National Champion-4-Time Olympic Champion....And Yes DT "We Got Confeti" lol
|
|
Shades
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 46699
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/11/18 2:41 am ::: |
Reply |
|
Post Players Set to Take Spotlight in Women's NCAA Tournament
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2018/03/09/womens-ncaa-tournament-uconn-auriemma-aja-wilson-teaira-mccowan
| Quote: |
| It's "the era of the Big Girls," as South Carolina 6'5" senior A'ja Wilson puts it. "Coming in my freshman year it was a guard-heavy game," says Wilson, the likely No. 1 pick in April's WNBA draft. "I had an opportunity to be in the Final Four in 2015, and there were big-time guards like Jewell Loyd of Notre Dame. Now, the post players are taking over. |
| Quote: |
| A formidable five in the post will have an outsized impact on the Final Four in Columbus, Ohio. |
| Quote: |
| McCowan's presence in the post creates opportunities for senior All-America shooting guard Victoria Vivians (19.7 ppg) and point guards William and Jazzmun Holmes to drive and drop when they hit a road block in the lane. "She also gives us forgiveness on the defensive end, where if we get beat off the bounce, we still have a 6'7" aircraft carrier waiting," Schaefer says. "She cleans up a lot of our mess." |
| Quote: |
| Schaefer is no doubt counting down the days until Wilson lands in the WNBA: He has not only had to face her up to three times a year in SEC play, but she also thwarted his title hopes last season |
| Quote: |
| “Anytime you have someone 6'5" who is that active and touches the ball that many times, you need to double her. You can't guard one-on-one.” |
| Quote: |
| Stevens ranks fourth in the country in two-point percentage at 68.7%, tops among all players on a top 10 team. She also ranks in the top 2% among players in shooting efficiency, offensive |
| Quote: |
| If you were going to create the ideal women's college basketball post, you'd start with Kalani Brown's gene pool. Her father is P.J. Brown, who was an exceptional 6'11" post defender during his 15 seasons in the NBA as a forward-center. Her mother, Dee, was a 6'3" forward at Louisiana Tech from 1990–91 through '9 |
_________________
Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
|
|
Shades
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 46699
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/11/18 1:39 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
http://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22714653/south-carolina-aja-wilson-uconn-huskies-duo-headline-espnw-all-america-first-team
ESPNW All-American Teams
First Team
Sabrina Ionescu, Oregon, G, 5-foot-11, sophomore
2017-18: 19.4 PPG, 6.6 RPG, 7.8 APG
Teaira McCowan, Mississippi State, C, 6-foot-7, junior
2017-18: 17.7 PPG, 13.2 RPG, 60.2 field goal percentage
Katie Lou Samuelson, UConn, G/F, 6-foot-3, junior
2017-18: 17.9 PPG, 4.4 RPG, 46.2 3-point field goal percentage
Gabby Williams, UConn, F, 5-foot-11, senior
2017-18: 10.6 PPG, 7.5 RPG, 5.2 assists, 81 steals
A'ja Wilson, South Carolina, F, 6-foot-5, senior
2017-18: 22.6 PPG, 11.8 RPG, 94 blocks
Second Team
Kalani Brown, Baylor, C, 6-foot-7, junior
2017-18: 20.2 PPG, 10.1 RPG, 66.3 field goal percentage
Napheesa Collier, UConn, F, 6-foot-1, junior
2017-18: 15.4 PPG, 7.5 RPG, 3.2 APG
Asia Durr, Louisville, G, 5-foot-10, junior
2017-18: 18.8 PPG, 2.1 APG, 102 3-pointers
Kelsey Mitchell, Ohio State, G, 5-foot-8, senior
2017-18: 24.5 PPG, 4.2 APG, 122 3-pointers
Arike Ogunbowale, Notre Dame, G, 5-foot-8, junior
2017-18: 20.2 PPG, 5.4 RPG, 2.8 APG
Third Team
Lexie Brown, Duke, G, 5-foot-9, senior
2017-18: 20.1 PPG, 4.4 APG, 3.5 SPG
Jordin Canada, UCLA, G, 5-foot-6, senior
2017-18: 16.8 PPG, 6.9 APG, 3.2 SPG
Marie Gulich, Oregon State, C, 6-foot-5, senior
2017-18: 17.1 PPG, 8.9 RPG, 2.8 BPG
Megan Gustafson, Iowa, F, 6-foot-3, junior
2017-18: 25.6 PPG, 12.7 RPG, 2.1 BPG
Victoria Vivians, Mississippi State, G, 6-foot-1, senior
2017-18: 19.6 PPG, 6.0 RPG, 48.5 field goal percentage
Senior
Certified eligible to declare for the draft
Only 7 out of 15 are seniors. ESPNW showing a lot of underclassman love.
Only 30% of the first two teams are seniors. Why you hatin’, Voepel?
No Tennessee love. Why you hatin’ old Rocky Top?
_________________
Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
|
|
Shades
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 46699
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/12/18 1:42 am ::: |
Reply |
|
WNBA fate could be out of Katelynn Flaherty's hands
https://www.michigandaily.com/section/womens-basketball/katelynn-flaherty-wnba-draft
| Quote: |
| Michigan’s all-time leading scorer is currently projected to be a second-round pick by mock drafts from both Summit Hoops and Draft Site. But it’s not that simple. |
| Quote: |
| The WNBA has a bizarre way of handling younger players. During training camp, many of the league’s stars are still finishing up their seasons in Europe. As a result, teams will take fliers on second-rounders, then cut them after training camp barring a strong performance. |
Telling it like it is.
| Quote: |
| An anonymous WNBA talent evaluator described her as a likely late second-round pick with potential to go in the third, but was skeptical of her chances to make a team. |
Is this evaluator me?
| Quote: |
The evaluator’s team is already set at both guard positions and with smaller players at that. Flaherty doesn’t fit there from a personnel standpoint. And yet, the evaluator’s team might still draft her.
“I don’t particularly think that she’s better than what we have,” she said. “So she’s somebody maybe, if we, in the second round or third round, want a player like that to come to camp, then that would be somebody we’d look at.” |
This “evaluator” appears to be a female WNBA coach. Katie Smith?
| Quote: |
| The biggest factor as to whether she’ll stick in the WNBA isn’t how she plays, it’s where she goes. Unfair as it may be, that’s reality. |
Keeping it real.
_________________
Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
|
|
RavenDog
Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Posts: 5710
Back to top |
|
toad455
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
Posts: 15504
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/12/18 8:24 am ::: |
Reply |
|
| Moreso, McCowan over Kalani Brown for first team.
_________________
LET'S GO LIBERTY!!!!!!
Twitter: @TBRBWAY
|
|
toad455
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
Posts: 15504
Back to top |
|
dtsnms
Joined: 23 Sep 2004
Posts: 18815
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/12/18 9:14 am ::: |
Reply |
|
Always give props to people that try, but no,no,no and no....
|
|
ClayK
Joined: 11 Oct 2005
Posts: 8701
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/12/18 9:19 am ::: |
Reply |
|
| It's dangerous to throw darts blindfolded, you know ...
_________________
Oṃ Tāre Tuttāre Ture Svāhā
|
|
Shades
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 46699
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/12/18 9:28 am ::: |
Reply |
|
They still only have 44-45 players in their database. It’s been like that for a long while.
What’s different is they added a third round, and some of the players they have in the third round are humorous, namely Kia Nurse and Ariel Atkins.
_________________
Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
|
|
toad455
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
Posts: 15504
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/12/18 9:31 am ::: |
Reply |
|
| Shades wrote: |
They still only have 44-45 players in their database. It’s been like that for a long while.
What’s different is they added a third round, and some of the players they have in the third round are humorous, namely Kia Nurse and Ariel Atkins. |
It's funny because as of last week they only had about 30 players in their database. I typically have to message them regarding trades and which players to add.
_________________
LET'S GO LIBERTY!!!!!!
Twitter: @TBRBWAY
|
|
Randy
Joined: 08 Oct 2011
Posts: 7105
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/12/18 9:56 am ::: |
Reply |
|
| Nurse to the Dream in Round 3!!! If only. Hell, I'd take her in Round 2.
_________________
The fault...lies not not in our stars but in ourselves that we are losers.
|
|
stever
Joined: 16 Nov 2004
Posts: 6415
Location: Ann Arbor
Back to top |
|
Randy
Joined: 08 Oct 2011
Posts: 7105
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/12/18 11:32 am ::: |
Reply |
|
| Seems to me that her best chance would be if she got drafted (2nd round) by a team needing help in the backcourt, had cap issues but no first round pick......Not sure if there is any team like that. Maybe MN, but they may only carry 11 anyway, and now have 4 guards.
_________________
The fault...lies not not in our stars but in ourselves that we are losers.
|
|
Nerd2
Joined: 06 Jun 2010
Posts: 7659
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/12/18 12:11 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| Randy wrote: |
| Seems to me that her best chance would be if she got drafted (2nd round) by a team needing help in the backcourt, had cap issues but no first round pick......Not sure if there is any team like that. Maybe MN, but they may only carry 11 anyway, and now have 4 guards. |
Having a chance to attend camp, get pointers, and then work on them while playing overseas has worked for some folks.
Also, I do not know for sure but I wouldn't be surprised if the Lynx feel they need 12 folks this season.
|
|
Shades
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 46699
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/12/18 12:21 pm ::: Re: WNBA fate could be out of Katelynn Flaherty's hands |
Reply |
|
| stever wrote: |
https://www.michigandaily.com/section/womens-basketball/katelynn-flaherty-wnba-draft
| Quote: |
| Flaherty will likely get a chance to prove herself. An anonymous WNBA talent evaluator described her as a likely late second-round pick with potential to go in the third, but was skeptical of her chances to make a team. |
|
Repost. Breakdown about 9 posts above.
_________________
Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
|
|
Shades
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 46699
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/12/18 12:38 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| Randy wrote: |
| Seems to me that her best chance would be if she got drafted (2nd round) by a team needing help in the backcourt, had cap issues but no first round pick......Not sure if there is any team like that. Maybe MN, but they may only carry 11 anyway, and now have 4 guards. |
No cap issues this year. They lost 3 vets plus Howard who was going to be a vet... and signed 2 vets back. Unless maybe they add another vet they should be going with 12.
I can’t see MIN drafting Flaherty over their own. They have a tradition of drafting their own.... of course Griffith is no longer there so I suppose that could change.
If you refer to my breakdown of the article above a dozen posts above, you’ll see this “talent evaluator” in the article is a female WNBA coach. And she said she’d consider drafting Flaherty but doesn’t think she’d have much of a chance sticking on the roster. Is the talent evaluator Collen, Chatman, Stocks, Reeve or Smith?
_________________
Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
|
|
WNBA 09
Joined: 26 Jun 2009
Posts: 5417
Location: Dallas , Texas
Back to top |
|
WNBA 09
Joined: 26 Jun 2009
Posts: 5417
Location: Dallas , Texas
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/12/18 12:57 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| bump
_________________
3-Time WNBA Champion-3-Time National Champion-4-Time Olympic Champion....And Yes DT "We Got Confeti" lol
Last edited by WNBA 09 on 03/12/18 2:01 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
blaase22
Joined: 28 Mar 2011
Posts: 3690
Location: Paradise
Back to top |
|
sigur3
Joined: 18 Jun 2013
Posts: 5910
Location: Chicago-ish
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/12/18 1:40 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| I actually think the latest Megdal draft is pretty good through the 1st round...
_________________
chicago sky tankwagon 2017
|
|
Randy
Joined: 08 Oct 2011
Posts: 7105
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/12/18 2:18 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| Shades wrote: |
| Randy wrote: |
| Seems to me that her best chance would be if she got drafted (2nd round) by a team needing help in the backcourt, had cap issues but no first round pick......Not sure if there is any team like that. Maybe MN, but they may only carry 11 anyway, and now have 4 guards. |
No cap issues this year. They lost 3 vets plus Howard who was going to be a vet... and signed 2 vets back. Unless maybe they add another vet they should be going with 12.
I can’t see MIN drafting Flaherty over their own. They have a tradition of drafting their own.... of course Griffith is no longer there so I suppose that could change.
If you refer to my breakdown of the article above a dozen posts above, you’ll see this “talent evaluator” in the article is a female WNBA coach. And she said she’d consider drafting Flaherty but doesn’t think she’d have much of a chance sticking on the roster. Is the talent evaluator Collen, Chatman, Stocks, Reeve or Smith? |
I wasn't too sure of the situation for the Lynx just trying to figure where a player like her would have best shot. Dream have no first round pick but really don't need another guard.
We know only the evaluator person is female. It could be a head coach, an assistant coach, GM, or a scout employed by a team. I suppose it could even be a TV analyst. So the universe of "female talent evaluators" is pretty big. If I was going to guess - I'd start by looking at what WNBA teams are closest to Michigan.
_________________
The fault...lies not not in our stars but in ourselves that we are losers.
|
|
tfan
Joined: 31 May 2010
Posts: 6094
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/12/18 11:50 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7bkQZoZSGZM" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
|
|
#Occasionalwnbafan
Joined: 01 Mar 2012
Posts: 1280
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/13/18 1:52 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
Russell, Meesseman, and Delle Donne would be one slow front court. |
|
Shades
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 46699
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/13/18 10:03 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
Senior Watch: 2018 NCAA Tournament Is Set
http://www.wnba.com/news/senior-watch-2018-ncaa-tournament-set/
Albany Region
Gabby Williams, No 1. Connecticut
Kia Nurse, No. 1 Connecticut
A’ja Wilson, No. 2 South Carolina
Shakayla Thomas, No. 3 Florida State
AJ Alix, No. 3 Florida State
Lexie Brown, No. 5 Duke
Rebecca Greenwell, No. 5 Duke
Kansas City Region
Victoria Vivians, No. 1 Mississippi State
Morgan William, No. 1 Mississippi State
Jordin Canada, No. 3 UCLA
Monique Billings, No. 3 UCLA
Ariel Atkins, No. 2 Texas
Brooke McCarty, No. 2 Texas
Loryn Goodwin, No. 9 Oklahoma State
Kaylee Jensen, No. 9 Oklahoma State
Spokane Region
Kelsey Mitchell, No. 3 Ohio State
Stephanie Mavunga, No. 3 Ohio State
Lexi Bando, No. 2 Oregon
Vionise Pierre-Louis, No. 12 Oklahoma
Gabbi Ortiz, No. 12 Oklahoma
Lexington Region
Myisha Hines-Allen, No. 1 Louisville
Jaime Nared, No. 3 Tennessee
Mercedes Russell, No. 3 Tennessee
Brittany McPhee, No. 4 Stanford
Marie Gülich, No. 6 Oregon State
Katelynn Flaherty, No. 7 Michigan
_________________
Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
|
|
J-Spoon
Joined: 31 Jan 2009
Posts: 4370
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/14/18 1:00 am ::: |
Reply |
|
So are there any likely draftees who did not make the tourny?
Who is the best of the rest?
|
|
Shades
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 46699
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/14/18 2:14 am ::: |
Reply |
|
| J-Spoon wrote: |
| So are there any likely draftees who did not make the tourny? |
The names that occur to me are
Tyra Buss (IND) WNIT
Taeler Deer (TSU) WNIT (not a prospect to me but Megdal has been hyping)
Diamond DeShields (TUR)
Teana Muldrow (WVU) WNIT
Raisa Musina (RUS) EuroLeague
Tyler Scaife (RUT) No tourney
Maria Vadeeva (RUS) EuroLeague
_________________
Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
|
|
ClayK
Joined: 11 Oct 2005
Posts: 8701
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/14/18 9:27 am ::: |
Reply |
|
| I do not see Tyra Buss as a legitimate WNBA prospect. A short, slender guard who gets most of her points in the paint does not fit the profile of a WNBA player.
_________________
Oṃ Tāre Tuttāre Ture Svāhā
|
|
Queenie
Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Posts: 15767
Location: Queens
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/14/18 10:10 am ::: |
Reply |
|
| ClayK wrote: |
| I do not see Tyra Buss as a legitimate WNBA prospect. A short, slender guard who gets most of her points in the paint does not fit the profile of a WNBA player. |
Somebody might take her just to look pretty on the bench.
_________________
We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty.
|
|
Shades
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 46699
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/14/18 10:29 am ::: |
Reply |
|
| ClayK wrote: |
| I do not see Tyra Buss as a legitimate WNBA prospect. A short, slender guard who gets most of her points in the paint does not fit the profile of a WNBA player. |
I dunno.... she was hitting a lot of threes against my team. Had successive 35+ pt games late in the season.
She fits the profile of a draftee, which is what Spooner asked for. I’d be a little surprised if she doesn’t get drafted, but not making the big tournament doesn’t help.
But not making the tournament didn’t hurt Banham too much, so who knows.
A reminder again that Curt Miller recruited her for Indiana, so I’m sure he’ll think she’s the bees knees.
I’ve seen Flaherty rated pretty high, first round or close to it. I think that’s way too high. I think Buss is actually the better prospect in comparison to Flaherty because of her toughness. A little bit of that Becky Hammon factor, but I’m not sure Buss has her circus shot down like Hammon did.
_________________
Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
|
|
PUmatty
Joined: 10 Nov 2004
Posts: 14141
Location: Chicago
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/14/18 11:13 am ::: |
Reply |
|
| Shades wrote: |
| ClayK wrote: |
| I do not see Tyra Buss as a legitimate WNBA prospect. A short, slender guard who gets most of her points in the paint does not fit the profile of a WNBA player. |
I dunno.... she was hitting a lot of threes against my team. Had successive 35+ pt games late in the season.
She fits the profile of a draftee, which is what Spooner asked for. I’d be a little surprised if she doesn’t get drafted, but not making the big tournament doesn’t help.
But not making the tournament didn’t hurt Banham too much, so who knows.
A reminder again that Curt Miller recruited her for Indiana, so I’m sure he’ll think she’s the bees knees.
I’ve seen Flaherty rated pretty high, first round or close to it. I think that’s way too high. I think Buss is actually the better prospect in comparison to Flaherty because of her toughness. A little bit of that Becky Hammon factor, but I’m not sure Buss has her circus shot down like Hammon did. |
She's also not a first-team All-American who led her team to consistent Top 10 rankings as a senior. Becky Hammon was both of those things.
Rachel Banham seems a pretty good reason not to expect much from players who can't get their teams into the NCAAs. Her career so far is a lesson that the league should learn from.
|
|
Shades
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 46699
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/14/18 1:26 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
I said that Buss has “a little bit of that Becky Hammon factor” for her toughness and fearlessness. I didn’t say she was her clone. One thing that they might not have in common is Hammon wasn’t drafted.
Anyway, here’s Curt Miller on recruiting Tyra Buss.
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/mKOIqy5DqL0" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
_________________
Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
|
|
myrtle
Joined: 02 May 2008
Posts: 22114
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/14/18 1:32 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
| #Occasionalwnbafan wrote: |
Russell, Meesseman, and Delle Donne would be one slow front court. |
If Nurse and Atkins go in the third round, tea will be blurbling out my nose.
_________________
“Try to be a rainbow in someone's cloud.”
― Maya Angelou
|
|
Rock Hard
Joined: 02 Aug 2010
Posts: 2809
Location: Chocolate Paradise
Back to top |
|
tfan
Joined: 31 May 2010
Posts: 6094
Back to top |
|
awhom111
Joined: 19 Nov 2014
Posts: 1847
Back to top |
| Posted: 03/14/18 9:05 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
Just thinking about the international prospects a bit, it is still a little crazy how the age difference works. Park Ji-Su and Olbis Futo Andre' are both younger than a number of college freshmen like Megan Walker, Chennedy Carter, and Evina Westbrook.
Secretly for possible commercial reasons down the line, I kind of want Park to be picked by the Sparks. If not for the whole Westchester thing, I would have wanted to see Vadeeva or Musina picked by the Liberty. Dumb question, but were the Sky ever marketed to the local Serb community when they had Petrovic? I know that the Fire have tried to make inroads there. |
|
|
|
