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Shades
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Posted: 03/07/18 5:09 pm ::: |
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Thibault loves his foreigners, so I'm seeing her land there, but not showing up until 2019. |
Actually, in Connecticut they made a conscious effort NOT to take foreign players to avoid missing time due to international competitions.
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What about that time they drafted Astan Dabo |
Somebody must have fallen asleep during that draft, or maybe it’s just more fake news. I’d be surprised if another organization has drafted more foreign players... maybe Agler is close. And then there’s all those foreign free agents he signs. Toad was right. He certainly doesn’t avoid foreign players.
2012 Draft
1st Round (9th pick overall): Astan Dabo
2010 Draft
3rd Round (27th pick overall): Johannah Leedham
2009 Draft
3rd Round (36th pick overall): Alba Torrens
2007 Draft
1st Round (13th pick overall): Sandrine Gruda
2006 Draft
3rd Round (42nd pick overall): Marita Payne
2005 Draft
2nd Round (21st pick overall): Erin Phillips
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Richyyy
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Posted: 03/07/18 5:28 pm ::: |
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Wasn't that the year Thibault was saying he loved his team the way it was and couldn't see how they could add to it? 2012 was a really shallow draft and at the time I thought they were just securing a player who might come in future years. |
Yes. I admit I don't remember it word for word, but he basically said Tiffany Hayes would struggle to make their roster. Oops. |
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Posted: 03/07/18 9:38 pm ::: |
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If a close source to Vadeeva or Vadeeva herself says she wants to play in the WNBA then I would rank her higher than I have her now, but, and it is a big but, if Russia can get back to being an Olympic/Worlds level team I would think the Russian team would give Vadeeva some very good incentives to stay away from the W, avoid injury, and stay committed to the National team, I could also see her Russian league team offering similar incentives considering they offered those kind of bonuses to non-Russian. Now if the National team or league team believe the W could add to her development then things might be different.
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Posted: 03/08/18 2:14 pm ::: |
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Nerd2
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Posted: 03/08/18 2:23 pm ::: |
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The only question I have is about Dallas taking another center. I recognize that Akhator and Lewis didn't show much last year but Akhator is at least playing overseas and for her NT. If they penciled her in as their backup center, would you see them taking someone else?
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pilight
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Posted: 03/08/18 2:27 pm ::: |
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Nerd2 wrote: |
RavenDog wrote: |
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The only question I have is about Dallas taking another center. I recognize that Akhator and Lewis didn't show much last year but Akhator is at least playing overseas and for her NT. If they penciled her in as their backup center, would you see them taking someone else? |
Lewis is also playing overseas, having a nice season in Poland
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Richyyy
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Posted: 03/08/18 2:51 pm ::: |
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RavenDog wrote: |
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The only question I have is about Dallas taking another center. I recognize that Akhator and Lewis didn't show much last year but Akhator is at least playing overseas and for her NT. If they penciled her in as their backup center, would you see them taking someone else? |
Akhator's pretty tiny; she's really not a 5 even if she starts getting onto the floor. With Paris gone and Plaisance hurt as well I'd think Glory Johnson sliding over is Cambage's backup at the minute. Given that, and Liz's unreliability, a center would make a fair bit of sense if there's one worth taking at their pick. |
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Nerd2
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Posted: 03/08/18 3:00 pm ::: |
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Nerd2 wrote: |
RavenDog wrote: |
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The only question I have is about Dallas taking another center. I recognize that Akhator and Lewis didn't show much last year but Akhator is at least playing overseas and for her NT. If they penciled her in as their backup center, would you see them taking someone else? |
Akhator's pretty tiny; she's really not a 5 even if she starts getting onto the floor. With Paris gone and Plaisance hurt as well I'd think Glory Johnson sliding over is Cambage's backup at the minute. Given that, and Liz's unreliability, a center would make a fair bit of sense if there's one worth taking at their pick. |
Fair enough. They are pretty set at the 2 and 3 and that's probably the best available at 6. Cambage improves them to a top 6 team IMO but she seems to only be able to do about 25 minutes a game right now.
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Posted: 03/08/18 4:38 pm ::: |
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She's a legit 6'3", or at least exaggerated no more than her teammates. From left to right: Gray (6'0"), Akhator (6'3"), Lewis (6'5"), Davis (6'2"), Chong (5'8").
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Posted: 03/08/18 6:28 pm ::: Re: Russell Happy She Came Back, Even If . . . |
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https://www.memphisdailynews.com/news/2018/mar/9/russell-happy-she-came-back-even-if/ |
Feels like russell is just ready for this to be over , well her play in the SEC tourney made me believe that .
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Posted: 03/08/18 6:56 pm ::: |
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If Vadeeva says she's playing this season, so that lock her into #2? Would Chicago pass on her with Dolson, Coates & Parker already at center?
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Posted: 03/08/18 7:50 pm ::: |
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If Vadeeva says she's playing this season, so that lock her into #2? Would Chicago pass on her with Dolson, Coates & Parker already at center? |
I am not sure that is Indiana's biggest need, tbh. They have Larkins and Achonwa already, I think they need Kelsey Mitchell's scoring more. I don't think Chicago would need her either.
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Posted: 03/08/18 8:02 pm ::: |
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About Vadeeva: I got in a discussion with Paul Nilsen about whether she should be drafted overall #1. His opinion was yes, she's already going up against top competition and proven herself better than Wilson. My opinion was no because while she has the pro experience going for her, the knowledge that she could be pulled away every year for something national team-related is a BIG problem. A #1 pick especially is expected to represent the team even more than during the season and is expected to be counted on to be there every year.
I also didn't believe that she had proven herself so much better than Wilson at this moment to justify taking her. 1st round, sure. Endless potential, absolutely. But is she worth putting ahead of Wilson this year when you have a new team and want to make an immediate splash?
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Posted: 03/08/18 9:50 pm ::: |
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What are Vadeeva's numbers like? When ever I read the over-seas thread she seems to have decent numbers, but not draft at #1 unbelievable numbers.
Granted she plays next to N. Ogwumike but that cuts both ways.
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Shades
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Posted: 03/08/18 10:17 pm ::: |
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If Vadeeva says she's playing this season, so that lock her into #2? Would Chicago pass on her with Dolson, Coates & Parker already at center? |
I was worried about Spooner becoming obsessed with Vadeeva. Turns out toad is the most obsessed.
Pokey wanted that #8 pick for a reason. Mitchell or DeShields are unlikely to be around at #8. Vadeeva could be around at #8. If she’s not, no big deal. Grab another nice player.
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Posted: 03/08/18 10:24 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
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If Vadeeva says she's playing this season, so that lock her into #2? Would Chicago pass on her with Dolson, Coates & Parker already at center? |
I was worried about Spooner becoming obsessed with Vadeeva. Turns out toad is the most obsessed.
Pokey wanted that #8 pick for a reason. Mitchell or DeShields are unlikely to be around at #8. Vadeeva could be around at #8. If she’s not, no big deal. Grab another nice player. |
Actually, I think it's the other way around. Phoenix wanted January and Pokey got the pick as a result. Indiana pretty much needs everything.
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