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PostPosted: 03/05/18 3:49 pm    ::: Better at Making Their Teammates Better...Cooper or Jackson? Reply Reply with quote

This is a spin-off of mavcarter's Swoopes vs. Moore thread. Which player do you think was greater at making the players around them better and more effective on the court putting them in a position to win?

Cynthia Cooper-Dyke or Lauren Jackson?







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PostPosted: 03/05/18 4:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Edit:Comparing the impact of a lead guard to a PF/C can be very difficult.


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PostPosted: 03/05/18 5:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Coop, because I'd be more afraid for my life if I fucked up.



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PostPosted: 03/05/18 5:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I think for Jackson it's actually that Bird made her a better player. How good would Jackson have been with an average PG during her career?



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PostPosted: 03/05/18 5:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
I think for Jackson it's actually that Bird made her a better player. How good would Jackson have been with an average PG during her career?


I could make the case for Tina Charles, too. Would Charles have won an MVP title while with New York if she had a better PG with her?



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PostPosted: 03/05/18 5:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
I think for Jackson it's actually that Bird made her a better player. How good would Jackson have been with an average PG during her career?


Still really freaking good.


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PostPosted: 03/05/18 5:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I think for Jackson it's actually that Bird made her a better player. How good would Jackson have been with an average PG during her career?


She was really good with the Opals



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PostPosted: 03/05/18 5:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
I think for Jackson it's actually that Bird made her a better player. How good would Jackson have been with an average PG during her career?

Because she sucked when Kristi Harrower was bringing the ball up the court?



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PostPosted: 03/05/18 5:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Weatherspoon explains what it meant to guard Cooper @ 3:18.

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PostPosted: 03/05/18 6:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Tough question. Making their teammates better barely enters the equation when I think of these 2 players. They certainly got their teammates plenty of wins though. They made their teammates champions.
I'd have to give this one to Coop though. She was a finisher but still a pretty solid passer. LJ was never really known for creating for others the way say McCarville was. (LJ did make her teammates "better defenders" though, by cleaning up after them a lot)



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PostPosted: 03/06/18 11:38 am    ::: Re: Better at Making Their Teammates Better...Cooper or Jack Reply Reply with quote

Genero36 wrote:
This is a spin-off of mavcarter's Swoopes vs. Moore thread. Which player do you think was greater at making the players around them better and more effective on the court putting them in a position to win?

Cynthia Cooper-Dyke or Lauren Jackson?







In my opinon, you cant say that they made their teammates better. You can say however that due to their ability to score at a high rate, they received lots of attention defensively which opened up more opportunities for their teammates. You can also say that their ability to take over a game propelled their teams to win at a high rate.


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PostPosted: 03/06/18 11:55 am    ::: Re: Better at Making Their Teammates Better...Cooper or Jack Reply Reply with quote

shontay33 wrote:
Genero36 wrote:
This is a spin-off of mavcarter's Swoopes vs. Moore thread. Which player do you think was greater at making the players around them better and more effective on the court putting them in a position to win?

Cynthia Cooper-Dyke or Lauren Jackson?



In my opinion, you cant say that they made their teammates better. You can say however that due to their ability to score at a high rate, they received lots of attention defensively which opened up more opportunities for their teammates. You can also say that their ability to take over a game propelled their teams to win at a high rate.


. . . except when Jackson was playing against DNasty aka Sunshine . . . then all thoughts of making her teammates better or creating opportunities for others with disruptive playmaking went out the window. I would have loved! to see those two be roommates for just five seconds . . . if they even lasted that long! Laughing



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PostPosted: 03/06/18 1:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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toad455 wrote:
I think for Jackson it's actually that Bird made her a better player. How good would Jackson have been with an average PG during her career?


I could make the case for Tina Charles, too. Would Charles have won an MVP title while with New York if she had a better PG with her?

Should have won the one in 2016.


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PostPosted: 03/07/18 12:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Well, if you got bent out of shape when I called Maya Moore overrated, you really don't want to know what I think of Sue Bird. I'd give Jackson for the answer to this question, just based off of that.



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PostPosted: 03/07/18 6:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Silky Johnson wrote:
Well, if you got bent out of shape when I called Maya Moore overrated, you really don't want to know what I think of Sue Bird. I'd give Jackson for the answer to this question, just based off of that.

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