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PostPosted: 02/02/18 12:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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So they gave away their second round pick for Kayla Alexander. Interesting move eh?

Mhmm. Our first off season signing period without KK is off to a roaring start. Laughing Wink


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So they gave away their second round pick for Kayla Alexander. Interesting move eh?

They swapped next year's second rounder for a third rounder next year and Alexander. Probably not much to give up to take a swing at having some actual height in the post.



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PostPosted: 02/02/18 12:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

miller40 wrote:
myrtle wrote:
So they gave away their second round pick for Kayla Alexander. Interesting move eh?

Mhmm. Our first off season signing period without KK is off to a roaring start. Laughing Wink


It was their second rounder in '19, no? Seems like fair value to me.



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Richyyy wrote:
myrtle wrote:
So they gave away their second round pick for Kayla Alexander. Interesting move eh?

They swapped next year's second rounder for a third rounder next year and Alexander. Probably not much to give up to take a swing at having some actual height in the post.


It struck me more as a way for Bill to give her away. But I do think she can be useful in Indy.



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stever wrote:
miller40 wrote:
myrtle wrote:
So they gave away their second round pick for Kayla Alexander. Interesting move eh?

Mhmm. Our first off season signing period without KK is off to a roaring start. Laughing Wink


It was their second rounder in '19, no? Seems like fair value to me.


Why would next year's second rounder be any less valuable than this year's? The Fever seem likely to be near the top of the draft again.



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PostPosted: 02/02/18 1:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Next year’s draft is pretty good first round, if nobody declares early. I doubt if it’s as deep as this one, although I haven’t looked into it too deeply.



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PostPosted: 02/14/18 9:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Fever sign Hind Ben Abdelkader

http://fever.wnba.com/news/fever-sign-hind-ben-abdelkader-free-agent-deal/



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Fever sign Hind Ben Abdelkader

http://fever.wnba.com/news/fever-sign-hind-ben-abdelkader-free-agent-deal/


I was suggesting that a team should draft her in the third round last year. She's had a pretty strong overseas season. If she somehow makes it, ClayK should tweak the locals on Bear Insider.
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Fever sign Hind Ben Abdelkader

http://fever.wnba.com/news/fever-sign-hind-ben-abdelkader-free-agent-deal/

Certainly worth a shot. Kinda funny that in the same year a Belgian decides to stay home for the first time, a different Belgian shows up for the first time.



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How many games does this team win this season? 8? Fewer?


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How many games does this team win this season? 8? Fewer?


Well, if Marissa Coleman has one of her good years and Briann January/Erlana Larkins are actually healthy and Tiffany Mitchell can get it going they might not be dead last. But I'm not sure where the defense and three point shooting will come from.


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PostPosted: 02/16/18 11:55 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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How many games does this team win this season? 8? Fewer?

Winning the lottery...


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pilight wrote:
Fever sign Hind Ben Abdelkader

http://fever.wnba.com/news/fever-sign-hind-ben-abdelkader-free-agent-deal/


In the article, this part made me laugh:
Pronunciation: Hind Ben Abdelkader (rhymes with wind)

Um, they know wind can be pronounced two ways right?


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I remember her at Cal and thought she had promise...and wondered where/why she disappeared.



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BamaEd wrote:
pilight wrote:
Fever sign Hind Ben Abdelkader

http://fever.wnba.com/news/fever-sign-hind-ben-abdelkader-free-agent-deal/


In the article, this part made me laugh:
Pronunciation: Hind Ben Abdelkader (rhymes with wind)

Um, they know wind can be pronounced two ways right?

Heh, good point, I missed that. I presume they mean the pronunciation that also rhymes with binned or twinned, as if they were going the other way they'd have spelled it wined or whined



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Richyyy wrote:
BamaEd wrote:
pilight wrote:
Fever sign Hind Ben Abdelkader

http://fever.wnba.com/news/fever-sign-hind-ben-abdelkader-free-agent-deal/


In the article, this part made me laugh:
Pronunciation: Hind Ben Abdelkader (rhymes with wind)

Um, they know wind can be pronounced two ways right?

Heh, good point, I missed that. I presume they mean the pronunciation that also rhymes with binned or twinned, as if they were going the other way they'd have spelled it wined or whined


That's what I presume (much better word that assume haha) as well. But that's the first thing I thought when I saw it LOL


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So - Nayo Raincock-Ekunwe from the Liberty is taking the season off to work out with the Canadian NT. Wonder if Achonwa will be doing the same?



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So - Nayo Raincock-Ekunwe from the Liberty is taking the season off to work out with the Canadian NT. Wonder if Achonwa will be doing the same?

And not be a part of the amazing season that the Fever are set to have? Surprised



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Luuuc wrote:
Randy wrote:
So - Nayo Raincock-Ekunwe from the Liberty is taking the season off to work out with the Canadian NT. Wonder if Achonwa will be doing the same?

And not be a part of the amazing season that the Fever are set to have? Surprised


There is something to be said for going down with the tank.



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Randy wrote:
Luuuc wrote:
Randy wrote:
So - Nayo Raincock-Ekunwe from the Liberty is taking the season off to work out with the Canadian NT. Wonder if Achonwa will be doing the same?

And not be a part of the amazing season that the Fever are set to have? Surprised


There is something to be said for going down with the tank.


Well, the Storm have already been written off as a lottery team so now we have company!


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PostPosted: 02/22/18 8:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Nerd2 wrote:
Randy wrote:
Luuuc wrote:
Randy wrote:
So - Nayo Raincock-Ekunwe from the Liberty is taking the season off to work out with the Canadian NT. Wonder if Achonwa will be doing the same?

And not be a part of the amazing season that the Fever are set to have? Surprised


There is something to be said for going down with the tank.


Well, the Storm have already been written off as a lottery team so now we have company!


Hands off our #1 next year.


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miller40 wrote:
Nerd2 wrote:
Randy wrote:
Luuuc wrote:
Randy wrote:
So - Nayo Raincock-Ekunwe from the Liberty is taking the season off to work out with the Canadian NT. Wonder if Achonwa will be doing the same?

And not be a part of the amazing season that the Fever are set to have? Surprised


There is something to be said for going down with the tank.


Well, the Storm have already been written off as a lottery team so now we have company!


Hands off our #1 next year.


Oh, we're definitely after it. Maybe the Lynx will decline to exercise their right to exchange their pick position with us. Razz


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Fever moves today...

Ink Dupree to a multi-year
Trade January for the #8 from Phoenix

Assuming Vegas takes Wilson and Indiana takes Mitchell. Are Pokey and co. counting on Wheeler to help transition a rookie through the ropes? Someone, anyone, please tell me you've heard our trading plots aren't all played out.


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Fever moves today...

Ink Dupree to a multi-year
Trade January for the #8 from Phoenix

Assuming Vegas takes Wilson and Indiana takes Mitchell. Are Pokey and co. counting on Wheeler to help transition a rookie through the ropes? Someone, anyone, please tell me you've heard our trading plots aren't all played out.


Pokey was a pretty fair point guard herself. Mitchell will be just fine.


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Nerd2 wrote:
miller40 wrote:
Fever moves today...

Ink Dupree to a multi-year
Trade January for the #8 from Phoenix

Assuming Vegas takes Wilson and Indiana takes Mitchell. Are Pokey and co. counting on Wheeler to help transition a rookie through the ropes? Someone, anyone, please tell me you've heard our trading plots aren't all played out.


Pokey was a pretty fair point guard herself. Mitchell will be just fine.


Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad I'll come around to that point at some point. I just need to be in my emotions a minute. Laughing


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Also probably better to open up more minutes for the rookie (while in this case also adding another one). It's not like they were going to be good with January running the point.



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miller40 wrote:
Fever moves today...

Ink Dupree to a multi-year
Trade January for the #8 from Phoenix

Assuming Vegas takes Wilson and Indiana takes Mitchell. Are Pokey and co. counting on Wheeler to help transition a rookie through the ropes? Someone, anyone, please tell me you've heard our trading plots aren't all played out.


If a Bonner trade to Indy was going down, I would have thought it would be included in all this mess. Kinda looking like it’s not happening and the couple is dealing with it.



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So who should Pokey target now with the #8?



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So who should Pokey target now with the #8?

Bpa, you don't pass on Brown or Canada if they are there just because they are guards IMo.


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agree best player available

assuming they take K. Mitchell at #1 (who I would start from day 1 even if that seems risky) you're two deep at every spot, and can still use help at every spot

K. Mitchell/Wheeler
S. Johnson/T. Mitchell
Coleman/Pohlen-Mavunga
Dupree/McCall
Larkins/Achonwa

Gwathmey, Hamson, Simms

#8
#14

Wing might be the biggest weak spot so maybe Vivians or Nurse
But best available at any positions still helps


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J-Spoon wrote:
agree best player available

assuming they take K. Mitchell at #1 (who I would start from day 1 even if that seems risky) you're two deep at every spot, and can still use help at every spot

K. Mitchell/Wheeler
S. Johnson/T. Mitchell
Coleman/Pohlen-Mavunga
Dupree/McCall
Larkins/Achonwa

Gwathmey, Hamson, Simms

#8
#14

Wing might be the biggest weak spot so maybe Vivians or Nurse
But best available at any positions still helps


They also have Kayla Alexander. Looks like they’ll have an overloaded training camp, unless more moves are coming.

Doesn’t Larkins play with DeShields in Turkey?



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Maybe pokey hoping one of either Russell Or billing slips to #8.



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K. Mitchell/Wheeler
S. Johnson/T. Mitchell
Coleman/Pohlen-Mavunga
Dupree/McCall
Larkins/Achonwa

Gwathmey, Hamson, Simms

#8
#14

Wing might be the biggest weak spot so maybe Vivians or Nurse
But best available at any positions still helps


Pohlen's job is most at risk. Fever draft the best avail. at #8(Billings, Nared or Vivians) and that will determine who they take at #14. Hamson & Simms have no shot. Not sure about Gwathmey & McCall either.

K. Mitchell/Wheeler
S. Johnson/T. Mitchell/Pohlen or Gwathmey
Coleman/#8 pick
Dupree/#14 pick or McCall
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Also probably better to open up more minutes for the rookie (while in this case also adding another one). It's not like they were going to be good with January running the point.


This is it. Maybe January could have taught Mitchell some things, but their games are very different. I think you throw Mitchell in and let her learn on the job. The team is in for a rough year, might as well work for the future.


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Maybe pokey hoping one of either Russell Or billing slips to #8.


Or Vadeeva. Pokey’s got that Russian connection.



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take Mitchell at #2 and Vivians at #8 and Mavunga @ #14

K. Mitchell/Wheeler
S. Johnson/T. Mitchell
Vivians/Coleman/Pohlen-Mavunga
Dupree/Mavunga/McCall (or Achonwa)
Alexander/Larkins

Wow and then you have Achonwa (does she take off for Canada too?), McCall, Gwathmey, Hamson, Simms

or Deshields at #2, Billings at #8 and Scaife at #14

Wheeler/Scaife
S. Johnson/T. Mitchell
Deshields/Coleman/Pohlen-Mavunga
Dupree/Billings/McCall or (Achonwa)
Alexander/Larkins

Just playing around but it looks like someone is going to get Hamson for free (Minny, NY, LA, Seattle, PX, Washington?)


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Achonwa helped her team to a Korean championship




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It's interesting ... we all tend to think that "Oh, the overseas thing doesn't mean as much as the WNBA," or "It was just a high school championship," but from the inside, as a coach or player, the work and energy and commitment feel the same, regardless of level or league.

Competitors always want to win, no matter where they are -- which is why you see arguments in pickup games that everyone will have forgotten in an hour, and CYO coaches losing their cool over a sixth grade game.

Congrats to Natalie and her team, and I hope she and all of us remember something I was told early in my career: "If you can't enjoy winning, you don't belong in the game."



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What does Pokey do now ? Azura declares early , She's got to be the #2 pick . Hell she might be #1 , Indy's 2nd pick looking very good at the moment. Kelsey mitchell #3 now to chicago ?



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If I'm Pokey, I'm taking Stevens. Sky take Mitchell and Williams.



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Stevens vs Mitchell

(Also a little depends on the #8 pick)

Wheeler/L. Brown (at #Cool
S. Johnson/T. Mitchell
Coleman/Pohlen-Mavunga or Gwathmey
Dupree/Larkins
Stevens/Alexander/Achonwa

Also have #14, McCall, Hamson

K. Mitchell/Wheeler
S. Johnson/T. Mitchell
Vivians (at #Cool/Coleman
Dupree/Larkins
Alexander/Achonwa/Hamson

Also have #14, McCall, Pohlen-Mavunga, Gwathmey


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They can still get a PG(Canada/Brown/Nurse) at #8.

PG: Wheeler/#8 pick
SG: Johnson/TMitchell/Pohlen-Mavunga
SF: Coleman/Gwathmey
PF: Dupree/Achonwa
C: Larkins/Stevens/Alexander



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Suddenly, this Fever "rebuild" looks a lot more short-term.



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Indiana's first three picks in the draft should be:

#2-Stevens
#8-Williams,Vivians,Brown,or Canada
#14-Gulich,Russell,or Vadeeva


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I was wondering if they take Vadeeva at #14? If she shows up, Anchowa or Alexander get bounced somewhere.

PG: Wheeler/#8 pick
SG: Johnson/TMitchell/Pohlen-Mavunga
SF: Coleman/Gwathmey
PF: Dupree/Larkins
C: Vadeeva/Stevens/Alexander or Anchonwa



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toad455 wrote:
I was wondering if they take Vadeeva at #14? If she shows up, Anchowa or Alexander get bounced somewhere.

PG: Wheeler/#8 pick
SG: Johnson/TMitchell/Pohlen-Mavunga
SF: Coleman/Gwathmey
PF: Dupree/Larkins
C: Vadeeva/Stevens/Alexander or Anchonwa


Achonwa can make her way to the lynx, would be upgrade over Fagbenle.


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Ok I have been convinced I'm guessing Stevens #2, Canada or Brown (#eight) and surprise (#14) pick Nared.

Wheeler/Canada or Brown
S. Johnson/T. Mitchell/Pohlen-Mavunga or Gwathmey
Coleman/Nared
Dupree/Achonwa
Stevens/Larkins/Alexander


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So which draft do you like better for Indy

option 1
#2 Stevens #8 L. Brown or Canada #14 Nared

Wheeler/Brown or Canada
S. Johnson/T. Mitchell
Coleman/Nared/Gwathmey or Pohlen-Mavunga
Dupree/Achonwa
Stevens/Larkins/Alexander

or
option 2
#2 Mitchell #8 Vivians (or Nurse) #14 Gulich or Mavunga

K. Mitchell/Wheeler
S. Johnson/T. Mitchell
Vivians or Nurse/Coleman/Pohlen-Mavunga or Gwathmey
Dupree/Achonwa
Larkins/Alexander/Gulich or Mavunga

Obviously there are variables my rosters leaves McCall and Hamson out all together, I avoided the idea of trades, the starters and the bench could be swapped here and there, and the drafts could go slightly different than I projected, but what I attempted to do is draft one post, one wing and one combo guard at one of Indy's 3 top picks addressing the biggest needs starting the ball rolling by choosing one of Mitchell or Stevens at #2 to see overall which direction I think the team should go in with the 2nd pick

So which team do you prefer?

I have to say I prefer the team option that starts with Mitchell at #2, I think it is more exciting offensively, and if Indy did land in the lottery and drafted K. Brown or McCowan n 19 Indy future is very bright.

The Stevens option doesn't excite m as much, but I do like the pick up of Brown or Canada as the second first round pick to solve the PG spot going forward.


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Spoon, I lean towards option 2, tho' the number 8 pick could be different than VV or Nurse--could be a post as well since there will probably be a surprise or two in the earlier selections. I agree with your point about next years posts and their probable lottery pick. One pick they could make in the second round is Wallace out of Baylor. Won't play this year, but if she recovers completely from her ACL injury, she could pair nicely with KM in the backcourt, heightwise. That way, KM could play more as a SG on offense.


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If Pokey takes Mitchell at #2, I see her grabbing Vadeeva at #8. If she drafts Stevens at #2, then whoever from Canada, Brow or Nurse is available.



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