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| You also have the flip-side of Seattle fans banking on Boucek-to-Hughes being a significant upgrade - how much could going from Laimbeer to someone who's never been a head coach before hurt? Well-respected assistants who've moved over to the main seat have, at a minimum, taken time to settle and work out what they're doing in recent years in the WNBA. Smith is taking over a team that's already well-acquainted with her, which should smooth the transition, but we don't really know what she's like as a head coach yet. |
Hope springs eternal! Boucek was too in love with her system and tried to change young players into positionless, versatile pieces. Hughes at least has shown that he will coach to the players he has.
As for Katie, Steph White stepped in and was successful. White had Catchings, Smith has Charles. New York will struggle more because of lack of personnel than bad coaching, I feel.
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I believe I'm right on the way this works. If not, please correct me.
Unless Tina Charles sits out the season--and since the Liberty's 22-12 regular season record in 2017 would count for half of the calculation for the next lottery--I don't see New York ending up as one of the four worst teams in the league in cumulative 2017-2018 records.
I don't see a great season ahead. But if we're going with 11 of the 12 players from 2017 plus a first-round draft choice, I don't see the Liberty doing so terribly that they'll end up in the next lottery. |
The two year calculation is only for lottery odds once in the lottery. The lottery teams are determined by this year's records only. Whoever misses the playoffs is in the lottery.
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| Posted: 02/10/18 2:13 am ::: |
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| Bob Lamm wrote: |
I believe I'm right on the way this works. If not, please correct me.
Unless Tina Charles sits out the season--and since the Liberty's 22-12 regular season record in 2017 would count for half of the calculation for the next lottery--I don't see New York ending up as one of the four worst teams in the league in cumulative 2017-2018 records.
I don't see a great season ahead. But if we're going with 11 of the 12 players from 2017 plus a first-round draft choice, I don't see the Liberty doing so terribly that they'll end up in the next lottery. |
The two year calculation is only for lottery odds once in the lottery. The lottery teams are determined by this year's records only. Whoever misses the playoffs is in the lottery. |
Thanks for correcting me. Sorry I had this wrong. If Charles is playing this season, it still would be a substantial fall for New York to go from 3rd place at 22-12 to 9th place or worse out of 12 teams. But anything is possible.
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| Bob Lamm wrote: |
I believe I'm right on the way this works. If not, please correct me.
Unless Tina Charles sits out the season--and since the Liberty's 22-12 regular season record in 2017 would count for half of the calculation for the next lottery--I don't see New York ending up as one of the four worst teams in the league in cumulative 2017-2018 records.
I don't see a great season ahead. But if we're going with 11 of the 12 players from 2017 plus a first-round draft choice, I don't see the Liberty doing so terribly that they'll end up in the next lottery. |
The two year calculation is only for lottery odds once in the lottery. The lottery teams are determined by this year's records only. Whoever misses the playoffs is in the lottery. |
Thanks for correcting me. Sorry I had this wrong. If Charles is playing this season, it still would be a substantial fall for New York to go from 3rd place at 22-12 to 9th place or worse out of 12 teams. But anything is possible. |
Their good record last year means that if they do fall into the lottery, they would almost certainly have the worst odds. I don't want to wish them ill but the difference in energy at the new venue could be demoralizing. Hoping for the best.
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Hartley was soo much better at the end of the season then at thee beginning. If she continues to develop she could actual be that solid #2 option.
L. Allen, could take a solid step forward.
And Boyd looked ready to break out this time last year, her return could make a difference.
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Their guards might be their best trading chips. If Boyd is 100%, they could have her with Allen and Hartley backing her up. Hartley could also swing to the 2 and back up Prince and Rodgers. This combo means they could actually trade Prince or Rodgers. With Prince being close to Charles, though, I'd see Rodgers being more likely. Rodgers and Zahui B. to Lynx for Fegbenle and a pick or two? |
Yeah Rodgers is one of my favorites but I would also agree that she is our best trade asset. To get someone better or a much higher draft pick my guess would be a combo of Rodgers and #10. Though if someone is looking for a draft pick and a defensive post Stokes and #10.
Apparently she is still hurt, but Rodgers and #10 for Jefferson would be my trade Du Jour. If Harrison can play a 4/5 combo with Charles than Rodgers and #10 for Harrison, or Stokes and #10 for Harrison (assuming Bill keeps the #1 pick and drafts Wilson I could see harrison be a possibilty for a trade). Clearly Laimbeer likes bringing in some of his previous players. I would also offer both those deals for Hayes, or to move up to #4 or #5 for Deshields or maybe G. Williams, but Deshields ability to create her own shot is a better fit for what NY needs. I'd also take a look at Christmas-Kelley if we could get her for the #10 pick or Stokes and a 2nd round pick.
The only free agent option out there that I like (if healthy) would be S. Johnson who would need to play the 3 in NY.
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The only free agent option out there that I like (if healthy) would be S. Johnson who would need to play the 3 in NY. |
I think you might need Zellous there just because she always seems to make things happen.
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The only free agent option out there that I like (if healthy) would be S. Johnson who would need to play the 3 in NY. |
I think you might need Zellous there just because she always seems to make things happen. |
I like Zelous starting at the 3 with Hartley at the PG. Zelous seems to be the de facto PG in the half-court set and that worked the best. But if we moved Rodgers Zelous could play some 2 and 3, an Johnson has that similar ability to plat SF but also run the offense in the half-court. TBH Johnson would be more of a talent grab than a need.
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| I posted in the Wings thread about Christmas-Kelly as trade bait. If she came in and played the 3, Zellous could move to the 2 when Prince wasn't in. A little less offense but better defense, I'd expect.
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Regarding any roster changes there is hope for:
-Improvement from young players within
-A return of Boyd
-A change in offensive structure to something more perimeter-friendly
Boyd's injury is a big deal for a speed player so in no way am I thinking she will return 100% or assuming anything. But a return to some degree of contribution and impact is at least a possibility. Stokes was awful in about half of last year's games, including rebounding and defense. A return to form in at least the stuff she excels at would be an improvement. Zahui is a possibility for improvement as is Nayo.
I vehemently believe that the Rodgers/Prince combo needs to be broken up. Having two reasonably ok scorers share a position is not the best bang for your buck. What I personally want is to keep the #10 pick and draft Nurse. She can shoot the 3, she's got a workable floor game and she has SF size. She can play the 2 or the 3 and she will contribute immediately. Trade Rodgers for whatever you can get. The luxury the Liberty have is they at least have bodies at every spot. They have 5 workable post players. They have at least 2 functional people at the point, 3 if Boyd turns out to be healthy and able to contribute. Adding Nurse and subtracting Sugar leaves you with Prince, Z, Nurse and Allen at the wing positions. Additionally, maybe if you add Nurse's floor game to that of Z's maybe you can get away with Piph at the point a little more often. One of the reasons it didn't work last year was because Sugar's floor game was also pretty deficient.
In turn, Rodgers to LA for the 11th pick makes considerable sense for both teams. LA could really use her speed, explosiveness and shooting ability off the bench...an area they were weak in last year. She'd also benefit from the standpoint that several LA players already have a strong floor game (Gray, Sims, Parker, Nneka, Beard).
Neither Piph nor Sugar really got into a rhythm last year. I think sharing minutes would make this year more of the same. Having Nurse on the wing would give the perimeter part of the team considerably more versatility than having a "2-guard only" in Rodgers who doesn't pass, handle or create particularly well.
Katie Smith also will, in my opinion, run a somewhat different offense from Laimbeer. It might help open things up for some of the younger players to score on the perimeter.
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Regarding any roster changes there is hope for:
-Improvement from young players within
-A return of Boyd
-A change in offensive structure to something more perimeter-friendly
Boyd's injury is a big deal for a speed player so in no way am I thinking she will return 100% or assuming anything. But a return to some degree of contribution and impact is at least a possibility. Stokes was awful in about half of last year's games, including rebounding and defense. A return to form in at least the stuff she excels at would be an improvement. Zahui is a possibility for improvement as is Nayo.
I vehemently believe that the Rodgers/Prince combo needs to be broken up. Having two reasonably ok scorers share a position is not the best bang for your buck. What I personally want is to keep the #10 pick and draft Nurse. She can shoot the 3, she's got a workable floor game and she has SF size. She can play the 2 or the 3 and she will contribute immediately. Trade Rodgers for whatever you can get. The luxury the Liberty have is they at least have bodies at every spot. They have 5 workable post players. They have at least 2 functional people at the point, 3 if Boyd turns out to be healthy and able to contribute. Adding Nurse and subtracting Sugar leaves you with Prince, Z, Nurse and Allen at the wing positions. Additionally, maybe if you add Nurse's floor game to that of Z's maybe you can get away with Piph at the point a little more often. One of the reasons it didn't work last year was because Sugar's floor game was also pretty deficient.
In turn, Rodgers to LA for the 11th pick makes considerable sense for both teams. LA could really use her speed, explosiveness and shooting ability off the bench...an area they were weak in last year. She'd also benefit from the standpoint that several LA players already have a strong floor game (Gray, Sims, Parker, Nneka, Beard).
Neither Piph nor Sugar really got into a rhythm last year. I think sharing minutes would make this year more of the same. Having Nurse on the wing would give the perimeter part of the team considerably more versatility than having a "2-guard only" in Rodgers who doesn't pass, handle or create particularly well.
Katie Smith also will, in my opinion, run a somewhat different offense from Laimbeer. It might help open things up for some of the younger players to score on the perimeter. |
I pretty much agree with all of this. The truth is Rodgers was mostly bad on offense once she moved to the bench. To her credit, Sugar did continue to play really good defense, which in a system that emphasizes a team concept is nothing to sneeze at. Still her offense will be easily replaced so you just have to balance out the pro's and con's. Katie did imply in her interviews that she'll try some new things on offense. Probably nothing radical, but as you said some tweaks that take better advantage of the perimeter players would help. Overall, the defense works so I assume Smith will leave it alone. You never know how a coaching change will affect the team, and now we have the venue change on top of that. Hopefully, instead of being demoralized by the demotion to a second class facility, the players will get angry and turn it into a galvanizing experience. Either way, while I can see the Liberty dropping off from last year, I don't see them crashing as others have predicted. The only way they drop into the lottery is if something happens to Tina.
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I don’t think the Lynx would embarrass themselves by pursuing Rodgers after basically giving her away, but Prince isn’t the craziest idea. I’ve always wanted her on the team. I wanted the Lynx to draft Prince instead of Wright. She’s buddies with Seimone from overseas play.
I look at it this way. You got Prince for a player nobody seems to want now. SEA got Howard for the #17 pick and possibly a little extra. Prince for #12 is not an outrageous price. How much are you paying her, because Reeve probably has her heart set on keeping Zandalasini, even though she’ll spend most of her time on the bench.
I think I’d rather have Dantas or Zahui for #12. I suppose you guys are loving Zahui now. She might actually get some playing time with Laimbeer gone.
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| I've said it all off-season. Trade Sugar. Maybe Christmas-Kelly for Rodgers and their 2nd round pick? Dump Zahui B. Minnesota might grab her for nothing. I'd like to see them add in either Bulgak, Jackson-Jones or Dantas.
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Last year two quotes from Laimbeer stood out in the early season.
-When he said Zahui didn’t know the plays after the Columbia game
-When he questioned Stokes’ fitness level
I’m really curious to see if Katie gets more out of both players. Particularly Zahui, who has some face-up ability.
Both players are also in the last year of their rookie deals. There might be additional motivation and maturity on the part of both players. The fact is that the first round pick makes the team and there could be a trade at another position too. Bec, Zahui and Nayo are all on the bubble at this point, depending who shows what in camp...and who the Libs acquire.
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| If the "pro panel" mock drafts are correct and Russell slides, I would take her at #10. Yes, she lacks intensity, but as I've said before that seems to change with some of the Lady Volunteers once they leave Tennessee. Russell has more offensive ability than Stokes. She'll provide some rim protection whereas you get virtually none from Vaughn. And while Russell can often be passive, no one has accused her of being dumb which is Zahui B's problem. I'm not saying that Mercedes will be great or consistent, but she'll give you a complete two-way option when things are going well. Arguably, we don't have that right now. Picking #10, all you can realistically hope for is a player who can break into your rotation and be useful off the bench. I think Russell can be a good fit. Then maybe we can flip Rodgers for another pick or a player who is a little bigger and can play both wing positions.
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| If the "pro panel" mock drafts are correct and Russell slides, I would take her at #10. Yes, she lacks intensity, but as I've said before that seems to change with some of the Lady Volunteers once they leave Tennessee. Russell has more offensive ability than Stokes. She'll provide some rim protection whereas you get virtually none from Vaughn. And while Russell can often be passive, no one has accused her of being dumb which is Zahui B's problem. I'm not saying that Mercedes will be great or consistent, but she'll give you a complete two-way option when things are going well. Arguably, we don't have that right now. Picking #10, all you can realistically hope for is a player who can break into your rotation and be useful off the bench. I think Russell can be a good fit. Then maybe we can flip Rodgers for another pick or a player who is a little bigger and can play both wing positions. |
I wouldn’t mind flipping Sugar for 11 and getting both Nurse and Russell. Fill both needs at the same time.
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| Bec, Zahui and Nayo are all on the bubble at this point, depending who shows what in camp...and who the Libs acquire. |
SWEET! You guys must be in better shape than the Lynx. You’re wanting to clear out your bench, while I’m desperate to add to the bench.
RAllen just got signed. I’d be surprise if she’s a bubble.
You’d be okay with #12 for Zahui?
Reeve, work your magic....
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Regarding any roster changes there is hope for:
-Improvement from young players within
-A return of Boyd
-A change in offensive structure to something more perimeter-friendly
Boyd's injury is a big deal for a speed player so in no way am I thinking she will return 100% or assuming anything. But a return to some degree of contribution and impact is at least a possibility. Stokes was awful in about half of last year's games, including rebounding and defense. A return to form in at least the stuff she excels at would be an improvement. Zahui is a possibility for improvement as is Nayo. |
For 2017, I felt (and posted) that our team needed substantial improvement from at least two of our four key younger players: Stokes, Boyd, Rebecca Allen, and Zahui B. We got that improvement from none of them. Boyd was lost. The other three were disappointing.
Looks like we may have the same roster for 2018 except adding our first-round draft pick and getting rid of one of our current players. Here's my view of who might improve:
I've lost faith in Rebecca Allen and Zahui B. Perhaps one or both will surprise me, but I'm not expecting improvement from either of them.
Stokes is crucial, as NYL_WNBA_FAN has rightly said many times. We need the strong defense she showed as a rookie and a solid job on the boards. Absolutely essential given other weaknesses in our roster.
Have to hope with Boyd. I agree with NYL_WNBA_FAN: we can't count on her having all the speed she showed in the past. And I had many questions about Boyd even before her injury. But she could be a real spark for the team, certainly off the bench.
I like both Raincock-Ekunwe and Lindsay Allen. I feel each did reasonably well as WNBA rookies. I believe both of them could be better in season #2.
I believe that Bria Hartley could improve. She had up-and-down stretches last season. Part of that, in my view, was that Bill Laimbeer was struggling with how best to use her. Hartley may be more comfortable on the Liberty this season. And perhaps Katie Smith will have a better idea of how to use her.
Finally, if she's not traded, Sugar Rodgers could certainly improve on last season's very disappointing shooting.
These are my hopes. Could be that none of these players improve. Rather unlikely that all of them will. But if a few of them do, it'll certainly help the Liberty's season.
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Some comments on the roster move discussion
Shades, Prince for #12 Love it!
Prince can fill some of the Perkins/Montgomery role, NY gets another decent young player, and I get to keep my girl Sugar who can move back into the starting line-up between Hartley and Zelous, where I think she thrived last season.
Zahui B for #12 all love it, but I'm having a feeling this is the year Zahui B breaks out so while I think getting a first rounder for her based on last season would be amazing, I still think she can turn it around this season, so while I would have to do it if it was on the table it does make me a little nervous.
So why not do both Prince for #12, Zahui B and NY 2019 2nd round pick for Minny's 2019 first round pick. This opens up 2 spot for #10 and #12 in NY, and Minny gets their vet guard and cheap post to develop with Minn ties. (OK I doubt this happens but could be fun)
Nurse at #10 also love it, but I don't think it will happen. Mike T could very easily take Nurse at #7 and I don't see her dropping past USun at #9. Miller like 3 point shooting, the Sun like UConn players, Nurses size allows her to play 2 or 3 giving her a versatility advantage over other picks. I don't see her getting past #9.
I also think Russell could go as high as #4, could easily go at #5, 6, 7, or 8 so the chance she is still on the board at #10 or #12 would be shocking to me. On the other hand maybe people see her falling because she just doesn't have the motor to make it in the W, in which case while I would be open to her. I'm not that excited about her.
So if that is the case while I like #10 and #12 as Nurse/Russell, if they're off the board does it have the same appeal as Vivians/Scaife, Vadeeva/Nared, Canada/Mavunga, or Billings/S. Thomas? (Mix and match as you see fit).
With Cappie out in Chicago I wonder if Rodgers and #10 could get us up to #4 and land us Deshields. That is still my 1st choice move. (I would even consider starting Deshields ahead of Prince, and have Prince as the featured scorer in the 2nd unit.) and the 2 assets for 1 move solves the roster size issue. (OK now that I think about it Chicago could just keep 3 and 4 and get one of Deshields or Mitchell at #3 to replace Cappie, so they probably don't really need to make that trade, but the Coach does like a 3 and D player like Rodgers and might need a couple more vets if they want to move up in the rankings. IDK)
Hartley/Boyd/L. Allen
Deshields/Prince
Zelous/B. Allen
Charles/Raincock-Ekunwe/Zahui B.
Stokes/Vaughn
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Some comments on the roster move discussion
Shades, Prince for #12 Love it!
Prince can fill some of the Perkins/Montgomery role, NY gets another decent young player, and I get to keep my girl Sugar who can move back into the starting line-up between Hartley and Zelous, where I think she thrived last season.
Zahui B for #12 all love it, but I'm having a feeling this is the year Zahui B breaks out so while I think getting a first rounder for her based on last season would be amazing, I still think she can turn it around this season, so while I would have to do it if it was on the table it does make me a little nervous.
So why not do both Prince for #12, Zahui B and NY 2019 2nd round pick for Minny's 2019 first round pick. This opens up 2 spot for #10 and #12 in NY, and Minny gets their vet guard and cheap post to develop with Minn ties. (OK I doubt this happens but could be fun)
Nurse at #10 also love it, but I don't think it will happen. Mike T could very easily take Nurse at #7 and I don't see her dropping past USun at #9. Miller like 3 point shooting, the Sun like UConn players, Nurses size allows her to play 2 or 3 giving her a versatility advantage over other picks. I don't see her getting past #9.
I also think Russell could go as high as #4, could easily go at #5, 6, 7, or 8 so the chance she is still on the board at #10 or #12 would be shocking to me. On the other hand maybe people see her falling because she just doesn't have the motor to make it in the W, in which case while I would be open to her. I'm not that excited about her.
So if that is the case while I like #10 and #12 as Nurse/Russell, if they're off the board does it have the same appeal as Vivians/Scaife, Vadeeva/Nared, Canada/Mavunga, or Billings/S. Thomas? (Mix and match as you see fit).
With Cappie out in Chicago I wonder if Rodgers and #10 could get us up to #4 and land us Deshields. That is still my 1st choice move. (I would even consider starting Deshields ahead of Prince, and have Prince as the featured scorer in the 2nd unit.) and the 2 assets for 1 move solves the roster size issue. (OK now that I think about it Chicago could just keep 3 and 4 and get one of Deshields or Mitchell at #3 to replace Cappie, so they probably don't really need to make that trade, but the Coach does like a 3 and D player like Rodgers and might need a couple more vets if they want to move up in the rankings. IDK)
Hartley/Boyd/L. Allen
Deshields/Prince
Zelous/B. Allen
Charles/Raincock-Ekunwe/Zahui B.
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That’s a good-looking roster in my book. You could even play Piph, DD and Z together for stretches provided either Z or DD is a primary ball handler. For the purpose of dictating tempo.
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Regarding any roster changes there is hope for:
-Improvement from young players within
-A return of Boyd
-A change in offensive structure to something more perimeter-friendly
Boyd's injury is a big deal for a speed player so in no way am I thinking she will return 100% or assuming anything. But a return to some degree of contribution and impact is at least a possibility. Stokes was awful in about half of last year's games, including rebounding and defense. A return to form in at least the stuff she excels at would be an improvement. Zahui is a possibility for improvement as is Nayo. |
For 2017, I felt (and posted) that our team needed substantial improvement from at least two of our four key younger players: Stokes, Boyd, Rebecca Allen, and Zahui B. We got that improvement from none of them. Boyd was lost. The other three were disappointing.
Looks like we may have the same roster for 2018 except adding our first-round draft pick and getting rid of one of our current players. Here's my view of who might improve:
I've lost faith in Rebecca Allen and Zahui B. Perhaps one or both will surprise me, but I'm not expecting improvement from either of them.
Stokes is crucial, as NYL_WNBA_FAN has rightly said many times. We need the strong defense she showed as a rookie and a solid job on the boards. Absolutely essential given other weaknesses in our roster.
Have to hope with Boyd. I agree with NYL_WNBA_FAN: we can't count on her having all the speed she showed in the past. And I had many questions about Boyd even before her injury. But she could be a real spark for the team, certainly off the bench.
I like both Raincock-Ekunwe and Lindsay Allen. I feel each did reasonably well as WNBA rookies. I believe both of them could be better in season #2.
I believe that Bria Hartley could improve. She had up-and-down stretches last season. Part of that, in my view, was that Bill Laimbeer was struggling with how best to use her. Hartley may be more comfortable on the Liberty this season. And perhaps Katie Smith will have a better idea of how to use her.
Finally, if she's not traded, Sugar Rodgers could certainly improve on last season's very disappointing shooting.
These are my hopes. Could be that none of these players improve. Rather unlikely that all of them will. But if a few of them do, it'll certainly help the Liberty's season. |
I really like both Nayo and L. Allen too. I love “vision” players like Allen and energy players like Nayo. Both have certain physical talents that demonstrate upside.
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| Posted: 02/10/18 11:40 pm ::: |
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| I really like both Nayo and L. Allen too. I love “vision” players like Allen and energy players like Nayo. Both have certain physical talents that demonstrate upside. |
I agree completely.
I felt Lindsay Allen had a lot of challenges. It's surely tough being a rookie point guard. In addition, Allen was released, then brought back as the 12th player on the roster. Hard to feel secure. The team had a lot of guards and Laimbeer seemed to be trying most of them at point guard. Allen couldn't be sure she'd get two five-minute stints off the bench game after game; she might or she might not. I viewed all that as a difficult situation... but, despite that, I thought Allen improved as the season went on.
Over his years in New York, Bill Laimbeer put so many players at point guard who really weren't point guards. That was his approach. Reminds me of my beloved New York Mets, who over their history have put 92 guys in center field who weren't center fielders.
I don't know 1/1000th of what Laimbeer knows about basketball, but I do believe in having a genuine point guard on the floor. Lindsay Allen is. I can't say how good she'll be over time, but I'd like to see her get a long look this season.
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| All I know is that the Yankees traded for Russell Wilson this week, which means they got a starting quarterback before the Jets did.
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