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PostPosted: 02/05/18 12:13 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Pederson has been a really good 'glue' player - just doesn't show statistically but yeah, teams need players like that. George is obviously different and no, she's not going to be the player that makes or breaks the team so that's an exaggeration. But then neither was Pederson. This writer looks to have an Aussie bias which probably explains the 'excitement' over this signing. If Tuck can stay healthy, I think she can be the glue player for them. Anyway it is just a matter of adding some depth which is good, especially since they have had known injury problems with the bigs.



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PostPosted: 02/05/18 12:54 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Yeah, Pedersen & George are very different types of players, so picking one over the other needs to consider the expected role rather than just a simple "who's better?"

I agree about the Aussie bias factor too. Personally I think assessing George based on her WNBA career to date is more meaningful than trying to extrapolate from what she does in the WNBL. The opponents she faces down here are quite different.



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PostPosted: 02/05/18 9:07 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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myrtle wrote:
Shades wrote:


Hard to argue that she wouldn’t be more useful than the #21(?) pick in the short term, but is she better than (supposedly retiring) Pedersen or other options that could be available as UFA?


I think a known quantity is 90% likely to be better than a random #21 pick.


And to be honest, I don’t think Miller has exhibited an ability to be a late pick gem spotter. What’s the lowest pick he’s ever kept?

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And their were times George looked decent. I think it depends on the matchup. Playing against 2nd string centers, she's ok.


There were times this past season Pedersen looked the best I’ve ever seen her. So the question remains is George that much better than Pedersen to make the huge difference this author is talking about? He already showed delusion with that first comment I highlighted.


We’ll see. Miller is good at making players play better than they have in the past (J Thomas, A Thomas, Stricklen, C Williams, and yes, Pedersen looked better last year than her prior years in the WNBA.


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PostPosted: 02/05/18 1:22 pm    ::: Alyssa Thomas Signs Multi-Year Deal With Connecticut Reply Reply with quote

http://www.courant.com/sports/hc-sp-alyssa-thomas-connecticut-sun-20180205-story.html



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PostPosted: 02/07/18 11:28 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Sounds like the Connecticut Sun will be bringing back a player today.


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PostPosted: 02/07/18 11:36 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Sounds like the Connecticut Sun will be bringing back a player today.


Where’d you hear that?


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PostPosted: 02/07/18 11:56 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ay Mate wrote:
Nerd2 wrote:
Sounds like the Connecticut Sun will be bringing back a player today.


Where’d you hear that?


According to Shades, Nerd2 doesn't know anything so I guess we'll have to wait and see, right?


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PostPosted: 02/07/18 12:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

dtsnms wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
Nerd2 wrote:
Sounds like the Connecticut Sun will be bringing back a player today.


Where’d you hear that?


According to Shades, Nerd2 doesn't know anything so I guess we'll have to wait and see, right?


Kelsey Griffin?



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PostPosted: 02/07/18 12:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

mavcarter wrote:
dtsnms wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
Nerd2 wrote:
Sounds like the Connecticut Sun will be bringing back a player today.


Where’d you hear that?


According to Shades, Nerd2 doesn't know anything so I guess we'll have to wait and see, right?


Kelsey Griffin?


Doubtful. I’m sure it’s one of the three from last year. Kizer, Pedersen or Adams.


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PostPosted: 02/07/18 12:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ay Mate wrote:
mavcarter wrote:
dtsnms wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
Nerd2 wrote:
Sounds like the Connecticut Sun will be bringing back a player today.


Where’d you hear that?


According to Shades, Nerd2 doesn't know anything so I guess we'll have to wait and see, right?


Kelsey Griffin?


Doubtful. I’m sure it’s one of the three from last year. Kizer, Pedersen or Adams.


I don't think Nerd necessarily meant a player that played last season..



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PostPosted: 02/07/18 12:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Griffin? Faris? Kizer? Pedersen? Henry? Lacy? Greene? McCray??


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PostPosted: 02/07/18 12:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Griffin? Faris? Kizer? Pedersen? Henry? Lacy? Greene? McCray??


It’s Griffin, Romero and Laney. Griffin and Laney played with Banham in Australia. Griffin is a lot like Pedersen so this means Pedersen isn’t coming back. I know nothing about Laney.


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PostPosted: 02/07/18 12:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Oh come on, if we're just throwing out names the one that'd really throw the cat in amongst the pigeons is Tina Charles...



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PostPosted: 02/07/18 12:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Oh come on, if we're just throwing out names the one that'd really throw the cat in amongst the pigeons is Tina Charles...



Actually its Kara Lawson.


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PostPosted: 02/07/18 12:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Oh come on, if we're just throwing out names the one that'd really throw the cat in amongst the pigeons is Tina Charles...


HAVE WE NOT SUFFERED ENOUGH FOR YOU?!?!?!



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PostPosted: 02/07/18 12:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Queenie wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
Oh come on, if we're just throwing out names the one that'd really throw the cat in amongst the pigeons is Tina Charles...


HAVE WE NOT SUFFERED ENOUGH FOR YOU?!?!?!


No. The beatings will continue until morale improves.



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PostPosted: 02/07/18 12:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Connecticut Sun
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📌 BREAKING: Leticia Romero has signed her rookie contract while free agents Kelsey Griffin and Betnijah Laney agreed to training camp contracts.



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PostPosted: 02/07/18 12:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

stever wrote:
Connecticut Sun
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📌 BREAKING: Leticia Romero has signed her rookie contract while free agents Kelsey Griffin and Betnijah Laney agreed to training camp contracts.



Wait...what? Nerd2 had the scoop? How is that possible? Twisted Evil


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PostPosted: 02/07/18 12:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

stever wrote:
Connecticut Sun
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📌 BREAKING: Leticia Romero has signed her rookie contract while free agents Kelsey Griffin and Betnijah Laney agreed to training camp contracts.


I already said that lol. Well, Griffin is a Pedersen clone so she’ll take over Pedersen’s role off the bench. I guess this means Pedersen actually is retiring. Didn’t Griffin and Laney both play with Banham in Australia this season? Maybe Coach Miller told Banham to work on Griffin. Haha


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PostPosted: 02/07/18 12:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

dtsnms wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
Oh come on, if we're just throwing out names the one that'd really throw the cat in amongst the pigeons is Tina Charles...



Actually its Kara Lawson.


I heard Debbie Black is returning.



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mavcarter wrote:
dtsnms wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
Oh come on, if we're just throwing out names the one that'd really throw the cat in amongst the pigeons is Tina Charles...



Actually its Kara Lawson.


I heard Debbie Black is returning.


Along with Pee Wee Johnson. Man was that a fun backcourt duo


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mavcarter wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
mavcarter wrote:
dtsnms wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
Nerd2 wrote:
Sounds like the Connecticut Sun will be bringing back a player today.


Where’d you hear that?


According to Shades, Nerd2 doesn't know anything so I guess we'll have to wait and see, right?


Kelsey Griffin?


Doubtful. I’m sure it’s one of the three from last year. Kizer, Pedersen or Adams.


I don't think Nerd necessarily meant a player that played last season..


You get the prize!


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Nerd2 wrote:
mavcarter wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
mavcarter wrote:
dtsnms wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
Nerd2 wrote:
Sounds like the Connecticut Sun will be bringing back a player today.


Where’d you hear that?


According to Shades, Nerd2 doesn't know anything so I guess we'll have to wait and see, right?


Kelsey Griffin?


Doubtful. I’m sure it’s one of the three from last year. Kizer, Pedersen or Adams.


I don't think Nerd necessarily meant a player that played last season..


You get the prize!


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PostPosted: 02/07/18 1:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I'll accept a BMW or Versace cologne as my prize, nothing less. Razz


Dylan Blue is just terrific. Eros has been reformulated and is no longer worth it unfortunately Sad



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PostPosted: 02/07/18 2:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'm happy to see Griffin back. She's a really nice glue player. And I thought Laney had potential but hard to see how she makes this team. This team will be DEEP. Should be exciting for the fans.



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PostPosted: 02/07/18 2:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
I'm happy to see Griffin back. She's a really nice glue player. And I thought Laney had potential but hard to see how she makes this team. This team will be DEEP. Should be exciting for the fans.


Do you think they’re done? Are you sensing something else coming up.... maybe even big?



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PostPosted: 02/07/18 3:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
myrtle wrote:
I'm happy to see Griffin back. She's a really nice glue player. And I thought Laney had potential but hard to see how she makes this team. This team will be DEEP. Should be exciting for the fans.


Do you think they’re done? Are you sensing something else coming up.... maybe even big?


I wouldnt mind having ivory Latta in a Sun uniform to take Banham or Bentley’s roster spot.


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PostPosted: 02/07/18 4:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Bentley was an All-Star two years ago. She had nagging injuries all last season that slowed her down. No way would I cut her loose for nothing until she totally proves to be done. Which I don’t see happening


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PostPosted: 02/07/18 5:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

dtsnms wrote:
Bentley was an All-Star two years ago. She had nagging injuries all last season that slowed her down. No way would I cut her loose for nothing until she totally proves to be done. Which I don’t see happening


Fair enough. What’s your thoughts on Leticia Romero actually making the team? I don’t know a thing about her.


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PostPosted: 02/07/18 8:25 pm    ::: Sun make moves in busy week Reply Reply with quote

http://www.norwichbulletin.com/sports/20180207/sun-make-moves-in-busy-week

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Romero may also be delayed this year. The 5-foot-8 guard is playing in the Czech Republic and may not arrive until after the start of training camp.
“I think she has a shot to make the roster,” Miller said of the former Florida State star. “She can play not only the point, but off the ball. She’s a high-efficiency shooter and has pro skills.“
Romero may also have to leave early due to the 2018 FIBA World championship tournament, which will be held in Spain in late September, and it’s possible the Spanish national team will start its training camp prior to the finish of the WNBA season.
For that reason, the WNBA season is also being compacted. It will start around May 20 and will end in mid-August. 34 games in three months.
That may help the fortunes of veteran players like Griffin, Laney and George.



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PostPosted: 02/07/18 10:14 pm    ::: Re: Sun make moves in busy week Reply Reply with quote

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http://www.norwichbulletin.com/sports/20180207/sun-make-moves-in-busy-week

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Romero may also be delayed this year. The 5-foot-8 guard is playing in the Czech Republic and may not arrive until after the start of training camp.
“I think she has a shot to make the roster,” Miller said of the former Florida State star. “She can play not only the point, but off the ball. She’s a high-efficiency shooter and has pro skills.“
Romero may also have to leave early due to the 2018 FIBA World championship tournament, which will be held in Spain in late September, and it’s possible the Spanish national team will start its training camp prior to the finish of the WNBA season.
For that reason, the WNBA season is also being compacted. It will start around May 20 and will end in mid-August. 34 games in three months.
That may help the fortunes of veteran players like Griffin, Laney and George.


What he said


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PostPosted: 02/07/18 11:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

so for now something like

J. Thomas/Banham
C. Williams/Bentley/(#9 Nurse)
A. Thomas/Stricklen/Laney
C. Ogwumike/Tuck/Griffin
J. Jones/George

Romero or #9 or #15

I'd take Nurse at #9 and call it a day

with Strick, Griffin, Geoarge, Tuck and Laney all being able to slide down a spot

and Chiney, A. Thomas and Nurse all being able to slide up a spot

that is a lot of depth and flexibilty

opps that is one too many players, someone has to go. Griffin, Laney or Banham, or a 2 for 1 trade or trade for future asset.


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opps that is one too many players, someone has to go. Griffin, Laney or Banham, or a 2 for 1 trade or trade for future asset.


that's why I suspected Laney couldn't make the team. Also I thought I saw somewhere that Pederson had re-signed with the Sun, so not sure if she has or hasn't retired. Could be another complication.

but of course more movement is possible.



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myrtle wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:



opps that is one too many players, someone has to go. Griffin, Laney or Banham, or a 2 for 1 trade or trade for future asset.


that's why I suspected Laney couldn't make the team. Also I thought I saw somewhere that Pederson had re-signed with the Sun, so not sure if she has or hasn't retired. Could be another complication.

but of course more movement is possible.


I don’t see anywhere that Pedersen’s been re-signed.


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J-Spoon wrote:
so for now something like

J. Thomas/Banham
C. Williams/Bentley/(#9 Nurse)
A. Thomas/Stricklen/Laney
C. Ogwumike/Tuck/Griffin
J. Jones/George

Romero or #9 or #15

I'd take Nurse at #9 and call it a day

with Strick, Griffin, Geoarge, Tuck and Laney all being able to slide down a spot

and Chiney, A. Thomas and Nurse all being able to slide up a spot

that is a lot of depth and flexibilty

opps that is one too many players, someone has to go. Griffin, Laney or Banham, or a 2 for 1 trade or trade for future asset.


Spooner, you didn’t notice the enthusiasm for Romero. You have her as a bubble not worthy of top-listing.
Griffin and Laney were signed to training camp contracts. That should be a hint to you.
When a player is signed to a training camp contract, they have to be extra amazing compared to another player expected to make the team to make the roster.



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Romero can make it, but showing up late and most likely leaving early for National team commitment isn't helping her case.

I could see all parties deciding it is better for her to wait.

Or a partial season


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Before she was cored, I strongly advocated signing one of my favorites, Allie Quigley. Idea

CON needs 3-pt shooting, and a tall SG that can play defense. I like Courtney Williams, but she's not a high volume 3-pt shooter. Bentley is better, but she's 5'7". Confused

Last year, Jasmine Thomas and Shekinna Stricklen were essentially the only 3-pt shooters on the team, and with Chiney coming back, Thomas will go to the 3 and Stricklen the bench, and now CON's startling lineup only has 1 3-pt shooter Shocked

Maybe they can play a double PG with Romero, but that said, I think they need to sign or draft a SG.



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We can scratch Kayla Pedersen from the Sun. She is 100% confirmed retired from the WNBA altogether.


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Poole started her career as the Director of Operations for the WNBA’s Portland Fire in 2000, and was an assistant coach at West Virginia from 2000-01. She worked with Miller at Bowling Green from 2001-12 and at Indiana from 2012-14.

“I am so excited to be reunited with my longtime and talented assistant coach,” Miller said. “We have a fantastic relationship and helped build two programs during our 13 years together at the collegiate level. Brandi is widely considered one of the elite assistant coaches in the country. She has tremendous work ethic and is the best multi-tasker I have been around in my coaching career.”



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PostPosted: 02/20/18 6:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ay Mate wrote:
We can scratch Kayla Pedersen from the Sun. She is 100% confirmed retired from the WNBA altogether.


wishing her well. Enjoyed her workmanlike presence...though sometimes frustrated that she seemed to forget her offensive skills once she got into the w.



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