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PostPosted: 02/01/18 11:38 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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You can't really blame Meesseman for taking the time off ... she's been going year-round for a while now. And barring a disastrous injury, she will be welcome in the WNBA for many years to come whether she takes an occasional summer off or not.


Can a team with title aspirations really have a liability like that? I believe Vadeeva would pose the same issues with national commitments ect .



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PostPosted: 02/01/18 11:45 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
ClayK wrote:
You can't really blame Meesseman for taking the time off ... she's been going year-round for a while now. And barring a disastrous injury, she will be welcome in the WNBA for many years to come whether she takes an occasional summer off or not.


Can a team with title aspirations really have a liability like that? I believe Vadeeva would pose the same issues with national commitments ect .

In fairness it's the first extended break Meesseman's taken from the WNBA in six years. That makes her less of a liability than a whole host of American star players...



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WNBA 09 wrote:
ClayK wrote:
You can't really blame Meesseman for taking the time off ... she's been going year-round for a while now. And barring a disastrous injury, she will be welcome in the WNBA for many years to come whether she takes an occasional summer off or not.


Can a team with title aspirations really have a liability like that? I believe Vadeeva would pose the same issues with national commitments ect .


Meesseman and Delle Donne weren’t a good mix anyway. Kinda the same player. Either are too lanky and slow to play SF and not strong enough to play center. So depth will take a hit for sure. But like Miller last year, a starter being unexpectedly absent might force him into a starting lineup that’s actually better than they had last year.

They still have Krystal Thomas, right? The return of Tayler Hill. Currie rumor. I think they could be better if depth in post doesn’t become a problem. Camille Little to Mystics? Isn’t she from NC?



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PostPosted: 02/01/18 12:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Richyyy wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
ClayK wrote:
You can't really blame Meesseman for taking the time off ... she's been going year-round for a while now. And barring a disastrous injury, she will be welcome in the WNBA for many years to come whether she takes an occasional summer off or not.


Can a team with title aspirations really have a liability like that? I believe Vadeeva would pose the same issues with national commitments ect .

In fairness it's the first extended break Meesseman's taken from the WNBA in six years. That makes her less of a liability than a whole host of American star players...


Also its the first time that Belgium is at a big tournament in a while and this is probably their only good shot because it will be Wauters last tournament if she can stay healthy.



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PostPosted: 02/05/18 6:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Dev Peters and Asia Taylor sign


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PostPosted: 02/05/18 6:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Dev Peters and Asia Taylor sign

Makes sense. They've basically replaced Meesseman with Currie and Peters, so they've got options at both 3 and 4 depending on where they want to shift EDD at a given time. Also, if she's healthy, I guess Peters is the backup to Krystal Thomas at the 5 at the moment. It's her, Delle Donne or Hawkins.



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PostPosted: 02/05/18 6:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Good pick ups for Washington. Mystics are looking deep for 2018, though I doubt Taylor & Hightower make the final roster.

PG: Toliver/Cloud
SG: Hill/Walker-Kimbrough/Hightower
SF: Ruffin-Pratt/Currie/Taylor
PF: Delle Donne/Sanders/Peters
C: KThomas/Hawkins
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Oh yeah, there's Sanders as well to help out inside. Knew I was forgetting someone.



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PostPosted: 02/05/18 7:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Good pick ups for Washington. Mystics are looking deep for 2018, though I doubt Taylor & Hightower make the final roster.

PG: Toliver/Cloud
SG: Hill/Walker-Kimbrough/Hightower
SF: Ruffin-Pratt/Currie/Taylor
PF: Delle Donne/Sanders/Peters
C: KThomas/Hawkins
+ their #8 draft pick


This looks like the same post thin team from last year. They will beat most eastern teams but still wont be able to topple the WNBA's Elite *Minny / LA & Now Dallasssssss Cool Cool Cool *



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PostPosted: 02/05/18 9:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

"Thin" is about the last word I'd use when describing the Mystics.


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Aladyyn wrote:
"Thin" is about the last word I'd use when describing the Mystics.


Well which word would you use ?

EDD & Hawkins Playing the 4
With Thomas & Pringle playing the 5 ...That wont beat the top tier teams as shown last season . Adding Pringle i guess puts the styx over the hump ? Laughing



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PostPosted: 02/05/18 10:01 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I like the signing of Currie & Peters for the Mystics.


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WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
"Thin" is about the last word I'd use when describing the Mystics.


Well which word would you use ?

EDD & Hawkins Playing the 4
With Thomas & Pringle playing the 5 ...That wont beat the top tier teams as shown last season . Adding Pringle i guess puts the styx over the hump ? Laughing


"Lacking a sufficient amount of true top tier talent" would be a lot better. Mystics were the deepest team in the league last year and this depth looks comparable to that at the very least.


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Aladyyn wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
"Thin" is about the last word I'd use when describing the Mystics.


Well which word would you use ?

EDD & Hawkins Playing the 4
With Thomas & Pringle playing the 5 ...That wont beat the top tier teams as shown last season . Adding Pringle i guess puts the styx over the hump ? Laughing


"Lacking a sufficient amount of true top tier talent" would be a lot better. Mystics were the deepest team in the league last year and this depth looks comparable to that at the very least.


They were? Id give the nod to Connecticut. They were deep and will be even deeper this season.



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PostPosted: 02/06/18 5:25 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
"Thin" is about the last word I'd use when describing the Mystics.


Well which word would you use ?

EDD & Hawkins Playing the 4
With Thomas & Pringle playing the 5 ...That wont beat the top tier teams as shown last season . Adding Pringle i guess puts the styx over the hump ? Laughing


"Lacking a sufficient amount of true top tier talent" would be a lot better. Mystics were the deepest team in the league last year and this depth looks comparable to that at the very least.


They were? Id give the nod to Connecticut. They were deep and will be even deeper this season.

Connecticut was extremely reliant on their fantastic starting lineup.


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Aladyyn wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
"Thin" is about the last word I'd use when describing the Mystics.


Well which word would you use ?

EDD & Hawkins Playing the 4
With Thomas & Pringle playing the 5 ...That wont beat the top tier teams as shown last season . Adding Pringle i guess puts the styx over the hump ? Laughing


"Lacking a sufficient amount of true top tier talent" would be a lot better. Mystics were the deepest team in the league last year and this depth looks comparable to that at the very least.


They were? Id give the nod to Connecticut. They were deep and will be even deeper this season.

Connecticut was extremely reliant on their fantastic starting lineup.


Washington was extremely Extremely reliant on EDD. That is all .



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WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
"Thin" is about the last word I'd use when describing the Mystics.


Well which word would you use ?

EDD & Hawkins Playing the 4
With Thomas & Pringle playing the 5 ...That wont beat the top tier teams as shown last season . Adding Pringle i guess puts the styx over the hump ? Laughing


"Lacking a sufficient amount of true top tier talent" would be a lot better. Mystics were the deepest team in the league last year and this depth looks comparable to that at the very least.


They were? Id give the nod to Connecticut. They were deep and will be even deeper this season.

Connecticut was extremely reliant on their fantastic starting lineup.


Washington was extremely Extremely reliant on EDD. That is all .

Last time I checked we did fine even when she (+Hill) was out.

Mystics had 11 players who played 12+ minutes per game in 2017. Connecticut had 7 (+Kizer barely missing the cut). My case is closed.


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Aladyyn wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
"Thin" is about the last word I'd use when describing the Mystics.


Well which word would you use ?

EDD & Hawkins Playing the 4
With Thomas & Pringle playing the 5 ...That wont beat the top tier teams as shown last season . Adding Pringle i guess puts the styx over the hump ? Laughing


"Lacking a sufficient amount of true top tier talent" would be a lot better. Mystics were the deepest team in the league last year and this depth looks comparable to that at the very least.


They were? Id give the nod to Connecticut. They were deep and will be even deeper this season.

Connecticut was extremely reliant on their fantastic starting lineup.


Washington was extremely Extremely reliant on EDD. That is all .

Last time I checked we did fine even when she (+Hill) was out.

Mystics had 11 players who played 12+ minutes per game in 2017. Connecticut had 7 (+Kizer barely missing the cut). My case is closed.


Just because thibault used more players does not mean they were effective in there minutes. So you qualify deep being alot of players playing in a game versus players actually making a difference in a game ahh ok .

Latta made a difference
Cloud made a difference - I vaguely agree
Hightower made a difference ?
Walker Kimbrough made a difference ?
Asia Taylor Made a difference ?
Tianna Hawkins made a difference ?

Yeah theyre reallllllllllly deep !



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WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
"Thin" is about the last word I'd use when describing the Mystics.


Well which word would you use ?

EDD & Hawkins Playing the 4
With Thomas & Pringle playing the 5 ...That wont beat the top tier teams as shown last season . Adding Pringle i guess puts the styx over the hump ? Laughing


"Lacking a sufficient amount of true top tier talent" would be a lot better. Mystics were the deepest team in the league last year and this depth looks comparable to that at the very least.


They were? Id give the nod to Connecticut. They were deep and will be even deeper this season.

Connecticut was extremely reliant on their fantastic starting lineup.


Washington was extremely Extremely reliant on EDD. That is all .

Last time I checked we did fine even when she (+Hill) was out.

Mystics had 11 players who played 12+ minutes per game in 2017. Connecticut had 7 (+Kizer barely missing the cut). My case is closed.


Just because thibault used more players does not mean they were effective in there minutes. So you qualify deep being alot of players playing in a game versus players actually making a difference in a game ahh ok .

Latta made a difference
Cloud made a difference - I vaguely agree
Hightower made a difference ?
Walker Kimbrough made a difference ?
Asia Taylor Made a difference ?
Tianna Hawkins made a difference ?

Yeah theyre reallllllllllly deep !

I see that you didn't watch many Mystics games. Having the better performing bench in most matchups was huge for Washington last season.


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Aladyyn wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
"Thin" is about the last word I'd use when describing the Mystics.


Well which word would you use ?

EDD & Hawkins Playing the 4
With Thomas & Pringle playing the 5 ...That wont beat the top tier teams as shown last season . Adding Pringle i guess puts the styx over the hump ? Laughing


"Lacking a sufficient amount of true top tier talent" would be a lot better. Mystics were the deepest team in the league last year and this depth looks comparable to that at the very least.


They were? Id give the nod to Connecticut. They were deep and will be even deeper this season.

Connecticut was extremely reliant on their fantastic starting lineup.


Washington was extremely Extremely reliant on EDD. That is all .

Last time I checked we did fine even when she (+Hill) was out.

Mystics had 11 players who played 12+ minutes per game in 2017. Connecticut had 7 (+Kizer barely missing the cut). My case is closed.


Just because thibault used more players does not mean they were effective in there minutes. So you qualify deep being alot of players playing in a game versus players actually making a difference in a game ahh ok .

Latta made a difference
Cloud made a difference - I vaguely agree
Hightower made a difference ?
Walker Kimbrough made a difference ?
Asia Taylor Made a difference ?
Tianna Hawkins made a difference ?

Yeah theyre reallllllllllly deep !

I see that you didn't watch many Mystics games. Having the better performing bench in most matchups was huge for Washington last season.


Idk maybe i didnt pay enough attention not sure . Whom might you say was the bench performer that won games for the styx ? IF anyone the most reliable bench player was Cloud . I just know they were predicted to make the finals at seasons beginning with predictions and that soon was Shot to hell when they took the court and everyone realized they were NOT a title contender. Can you really be the deepest team in the league and not be mentioned as a title contender ?



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WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
"Thin" is about the last word I'd use when describing the Mystics.


Well which word would you use ?

EDD & Hawkins Playing the 4
With Thomas & Pringle playing the 5 ...That wont beat the top tier teams as shown last season . Adding Pringle i guess puts the styx over the hump ? Laughing


"Lacking a sufficient amount of true top tier talent" would be a lot better. Mystics were the deepest team in the league last year and this depth looks comparable to that at the very least.


They were? Id give the nod to Connecticut. They were deep and will be even deeper this season.

Connecticut was extremely reliant on their fantastic starting lineup.


Washington was extremely Extremely reliant on EDD. That is all .

Last time I checked we did fine even when she (+Hill) was out.

Mystics had 11 players who played 12+ minutes per game in 2017. Connecticut had 7 (+Kizer barely missing the cut). My case is closed.


Just because thibault used more players does not mean they were effective in there minutes. So you qualify deep being alot of players playing in a game versus players actually making a difference in a game ahh ok .

Latta made a difference
Cloud made a difference - I vaguely agree
Hightower made a difference ?
Walker Kimbrough made a difference ?
Asia Taylor Made a difference ?
Tianna Hawkins made a difference ?

Yeah theyre reallllllllllly deep !

I see that you didn't watch many Mystics games. Having the better performing bench in most matchups was huge for Washington last season.


Idk maybe i didnt pay enough attention not sure . Whom might you say was the bench performer that won games for the styx ? IF anyone the most reliable bench player was Cloud . I just know they were predicted to make the finals at seasons beginning with predictions and that soon was Shot to hell when they took the court and everyone realized they were NOT a title contender. Can you really be the deepest team in the league and not be mentioned as a title contender ?

1) Yes, it's Cloud. 2nd best backup PG in the league last season.
2) Were they predicted to get 0 relevant games of their 5 best players actually playing together? Because that was kind of the issue last season.


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http://mystics.wnba.com/news/enhances-basketball-operations-staff/

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Washington Mystics general manager and head coach Mike Thibault announced that Asjha Jones and Chalisa Fonza have been added to the basketball operations staff.



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Belgium wanted Emma Meesseman to miss the WNBA playoffs
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Since [Thibault] anticipated at least some of these things happening, I’m not sure why he did not part ways with Meesseman when she had significant trade value.
For example, before the Elena Delle Donne trade happened, the Sky wanted Meesseman in a deal. The Mystics refused to do so

https://www.bulletsforever.com/2018/2/26/17055844/belgium-womens-basketball-emma-meesseman-fiba-world-cup-wnba-playoffs



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And record-wise, they actually played better without Meesseman than with her. (Sounds eerily similar to a current Wizards situation). But at the same time, I’m not exactly sure why Meesseman seemed to be untouchable before the 2017 season, even if the Mystics anticipated this all along.


Hindsight. This guy himself wanted Meesseman to be untouchable.



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And record-wise, they actually played better without Meesseman than with her. (Sounds eerily similar to a current Wizards situation). But at the same time, I’m not exactly sure why Meesseman seemed to be untouchable before the 2017 season, even if the Mystics anticipated this all along.


Hindsight. This guy himself wanted Meesseman to be untouchable.

Not true. The article's exact statement was
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The Mystics consider Meesseman untradeable.

https://www.bulletsforever.com/2016/12/17/13988260/winners-losers-elena-delle-donne-mystics-possibility-wnba-2017

He also stated he'd prefer to trade her.

Quote:
I think most of us would agree that in a vacuum, the fairest trade the Mystics could make is by offering Meesseman and the #2 pick to Chicago for Delle Donne. I would make that trade myself.

https://www.bulletsforever.com/2017/1/24/14370850/chicago-sky-emma-meesseman-elena-delle-donne-trade-inquiry-wnba-2017


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