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PostPosted: 01/15/18 2:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
UFAs (*LAS= LA Sparks, LAV= Las Vegas Aces):
Danielle Adams - doubtful she's in shape, doesn't get signed.
Matee Ajavon - signs with ATL
Alana Beard - unless she's retired, signs with LAS
Jessica Breland - stays with CHI
Rebekkah Brunson - stays with MIN
Monique Currie - retired
Ha Eun Joo - really?
Sandrine Gruda - only LAS would sign her if she plays.
Allison Hightower - could be a decent back-up SF with WAS, ATL
Zofia Hruscakova - nope.
Tiffany Jackson-Jones - Agler should keep her over Gruda.
Shenise Johnson - I'd bet she goes elsewhere, possibly PHX or NYL.
Lynetta Kizer - could go elsewhere with Ogwumike back, possibly SEA or MIN
Ivory Latta - stays with WAS
Camille Little - stays with PHX
Sancho Lyttle - goes elsewhere, possibly MIN, SEA or WAS
Alex Montgomery - likely stays with LAV
Renee Montgomery - stays with MIN
Aneka Morello - stays with ATL
Shay Murphy - doubtful to sign anywhere, 2017 was a bust.
Emmeline Ndongue - really?
Courtney Paris - stays with DAL, even if Cambage comes over.
Kayla Pedersen - can only see her staying in CON if they need her.
Jia Perkins - retired?
Plenette Pierson - retired
Jeanette Pohlen-Mavunga - rotation guard with an injury history, someone will bring her in.
Cappie Pondexter - rumors are she wants out of CHI, maybe to LAS of Beard retires?
Noelle Quinn - can only see SEA taking her back.
Jennie Simms - ehhh
Shekinna Stricklen - stays with CON
Carolyn Swords - wasteful in SEA, maybe Laimbeer brings her LAV? or she goes back to NYL?
Diandra Tchatchouang - really?
Kia Vaughn - if Swords comes back to NYL, she's gone. Maybe IND, SEA or MIN?
Tanisha Wright - retired
Tamera Young - stays in ATL


Where is that coming from >? Moe retiring ?



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Small Black Font - Unsigned player
Small Red Font - Player who is retired, injured, focused on national team, or erroneous listing from wnba.com
Large Black Font - Signed player with no official press release
Large Blue Font - Signed player with news release linked
Large Red Font - Player who was signed and subsequently waived
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CORE PLAYERS
DeWanna Bonner PHX
Tina Charles NYL
Karima Christmas-Kelly DAL
Candice Dupree IND ~ Multi-year
Crystal Langhorne SEA
Angel McCoughtry ATL ~ Multi-year
Allie Quigley CHI

RESERVED PLAYERS
Lindsay Allen NYL
Rebecca Allen NYL
Valeriane Ayayi LVA
Adut Bulgak CHI
Cierra Burdick LVA ~ Signed and subsequently waived
Emma Cannon PHX ~ Signed and subsequently waived
Anna Cruz (MIN)
Ana Dabovic LAS
Damiris Dantas ATL
Jelena Dubljevic (LAS)
Cayla George CON ~ Sign and trade from PHX | Second round pick in 2018 (#21) ~ Subsequently waived
Bashaara Graves IND ~ Training camp contract ~ Signed and subsequently waived
Jennifer Hamson IND ~ Signed and subsequently waived
Sequoia Holmes LVA ~ Signed and subsequently waived
Sonja Petrovic (PHX) ~ Out for season: Personal
Nayo Raincock-Ekunwe (NYL) ~ Out for season: Focus on Team Canada
Angel Robinson (PHX)
Asia Taylor WAS ~ Signed and subsequently waived
Kayla Thornton DAL
Marianna Tolo (LAS) ~ Out for season: ACL tear
Yvonne Turner PHX
Erica Wheeler IND
Sami Whitcomb SEA ~ Multi-year
Marta Xargay (PHX)
Cecilia Zandalasini MIN

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Kelsey Bone LVA ~ Sign and trade from PHX | 2019 second round pick + 2018 third round pick (#26)
Sydney Colson LVA
Stefanie Dolson CHI ~ Multi-year
Amber Harris CHI ~ Signed and subsequently waived
Bria Hartley NYL
Tianna Hawkins WAS
Jordan Hooper CHI
Natasha Howard SEA ~ Sign and trade from MIN | 2018 second round pick (#17) + right to swap first round picks in 2019
Kayla McBride LVA ~ Multi-year
Theresa Plaisance DAL ~ Multi-year
Odyssey Sims LAS
Alyssa Thomas CON ~ Multi-year

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Danielle Adams
Matee Ajavon
Alana Beard LAS
Jessica Breland ATL ~ Multi-year
Rebekkah Brunson MIN
Monique Currie WAS
Ha Eun Joo ~ Erroneous listing
Sandrine Gruda
Allison Hightower WAS ~ Signed and subsequently waived
Zofia Hruscakova ~ Erroneous listing
Tiffany Jackson LAS ~ Signed and then subsequently retired
Shenise Johnson IND
Lynetta Kizer MIN
Ivory Latta
Camille Little PHX
Sancho Lyttle PHX
Alex Montgomery CHI
Renee Montgomery ATL ~ Multi-year
Aneka Morello
Shay Murphy NYL ~ Signed and subsequently waived
Emmeline Ndongue ~ Erroneous listing
Courtney Paris SEA ~ Multi-year
Kayla Pedersen
Jia Perkins ~ Retired
Plenette Pierson ~ Retired
Jeanette Pohlen-Mavunga IND ~ Signed and subsequently waived
Cappie Pondexter LAS
Noelle Quinn SEA
Jennie Simms IND ~ Signed and subsequently waived
Shekinna Stricklen CON ~ Multi-year
Carolyn Swords LVA
Diandra Tchatchouang ~ Erroneous listing
Kia Vaughn NYL
Tanisha Wright MIN
Tamera Young LVA

UNLISTED FREE AGENTS
Jolene Anderson LAS ~ Training camp contract
Karlie Samuelson LAS ~ Training camp contract
Maggie Lucas ATL ~ Training camp contract
LaToya Sanders WAS
Aleksandra Crvendakic SEA ~ Training camp contract
Devereaux Peters WAS
Saicha Grant-Allen LAS ~ Training camp contract ~ Subsequently waived
Endy Miyem MIN
Kelsey Griffin CON ~ Training camp contract ~ Subsequently waived because of injury
Betnijah Laney CON ~ Training camp contract
Adaora Elonu ATL ~ Training camp contract ~ Subsequently waived
Hind Ben Abdelkader IND
Ify Ibekwe NYL ~ Subsequently waived on 4/10/18
Kelly Faris NYL ~ Signed and subsequently waived
Jillian Alleyne NYL ~ Signed and subsequently waived
Astou Ndour CHI
Reshanda Gray NYL
Breanna Richardson MIN ~ Training camp contract ~ Signed and subsequently waived
Ivey Slaughter LVA ~ Signed and subsequently waived
Blake Dietrick ATL ~ Training camp contract
Adaora Elonu ATL ~ Training camp contract ~ Subsequently waived
Alex Harden PHX ~ Signed and subsequently waived
Jessica January CON ~ Training camp contract ~ Subsequently waived
Ameryst Alston CHI ~ Training camp contract ~ Subsequently waived
Yelena Leuchanka ATL ~ Training camp contract ~ Subsequently waived
Rachel Hollivay NYL ~ Signed and subsequently waived
Jacki Gemelos LVA ~ Signed and subsequently waived
Bashaara Graves IND ~ Training camp contract ~ Subsequently waived
Chelsea Hopkins CHI ~ Training camp contract ~ Subsequently waived
Mistie Bass LAS
Nikki Greene CON ~ Training camp contract ~ Subsequently waived
Khadijiah Cave CON ~ Training camp contract ~ Subsequently waived
Elizabeth Cambage DAL ~ Multi-year
Jamierra Faulkner CHI
Shoni Schimmel NYL
Marissa Coleman NYL
Jillian Alleyne MIN ~ Signed and subsequently waived


TRADE OF PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT
Kayla Alexander IND | Alexander + LVA 2019 third round pick for IND 2019 second round pick
Danielle Robinson MIN | Robinson + PHX 2019 third round pick for MIN 2018 first round pick (#12)
Briann January PHX | 2018 first round pick (#8)
Bria Holmes CON | 2018 second round pick (#15) + 2019 second round pick

CONTRACT EXTENSION
Elizabeth Williams ATL ~ Multi-year
Leilani Mitchell PHX ~ Through 2020
Alysha Clark SEA ~ Multi-year
Jewell Loyd SEA ~ Multi-year
Kaleena Mosqueda-Lewis SEA ~ Multi-year


DEFERRED ROOKIE CONTRACT
Alaina Coates CHI
Leticia Romero CON ~ Signed and subsequently waived


FULL SEASON SUSPENSION
Ramu Tokashiki SEA ~ Focus on Team Japan
Emma Meesseman WAS ~ Focus on Team Belgium



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PostPosted: 01/15/18 3:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ha Eun Joo
Zofia Hruscakova
Emmeline Ndongue
Diandra Tchatchouang

Don't know why names like this cropped up. Usually they only list the unrestricted free agents who played last year. Otherwise the list could be near-infinitely long. Mytle is unrestricted free agent.

I guess Cambage is still under the rookie contract. There was some debate about that. Otherwise she'd be listed somewhere.

Reeve's not coring anybody. Not giving a qualifying offer to Katrina Elhotova. Stumbling already or does she have a plan that doesn't involve Elhotova, Montgomery, or Perkins?



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PostPosted: 01/15/18 3:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

This is a pretty weak UFA class. Given the expected retirements and players likely to stay with their current teams, it is hard to see a team made up of the UFA's even making the playoffs.

Here is my starting 5, excluding Brunson and Montgomery who I think will stay with MN. If those two were to move, I put Brunson the starting lineup and move Breland and to the bench. Cappie/Montgomery would probably split time at PG.

Breland
Stricklen
Paris
S. Johnson
Pondexter

Bench
Young
Swords
Perkins
Latta
Lytltle

Of course, this team probably would have salary cap problems.


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PostPosted: 01/15/18 4:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

OK here is a sign and trade prediction based on the above

K. Bone sign and traded to LV for #13 pick

Laimbeer originally drafted Bone, she had a decent rookie season in NY, #13 in this draft is just valuable enough that PX won't feel robbed, and PX probably doesn't want to pay Bone anything anyway. Seems very much like a Laimbeer kind of trade. Bone delivers the goods with a new lease on her career trader Bill looks like a genius, it doesn't work out he didn't give up too much, and can focus on Wilson.


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PostPosted: 01/15/18 6:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Bone needs to hope there's a team out there that won't put up with her attitude and give her a second chance.

What's the chance Dupree heads back to Phoenix with Bonner? Everything thinks Bonner will end up in Indiana. Dupree to Phoenix for Little? Phoenix doesn't have much to offer right now.

I tend to think Johnson will want out of Indiana and play on a better team. Indiana will likely be another lottery team after 2018.



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PostPosted: 01/15/18 6:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

If Bonner were to stay in PHX, would Dupree at Las Vegas (300 mi) be close enough?



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PostPosted: 01/15/18 6:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
What's the chance Dupree heads back to Phoenix with Bonner?


From things I've heard around Indy, there's very little chance. Although I fully admit someone with more insider knowledge than me might have heard otherwise.


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PostPosted: 01/15/18 6:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Seems like if Phoenix wanted to keep DuPre they wouldn't have traded her.


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PostPosted: 01/15/18 10:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

My prediction on Bonner and Dupree one plays one sits out.


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PostPosted: 01/15/18 10:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
My prediction on Bonner and Dupree one plays one sits out.


Probably wrong... it's already been said they both want to play.



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PostPosted: 01/15/18 10:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
My prediction on Bonner and Dupree one plays one sits out.


Probably wrong... it's already been said they both want to play.


Yes but I think both of them being cored will really limit their ability to end up together. And I'm not sure they will both play if they are not able to also be with their children regularly. I doubt they both play if they are in different cities, even cities that are not too far apart. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think they both want to play, and play on the same team.

The right trade or trades might be out there but I'm not confident that it will work out. When players are cored, of a certain age, and you know they want to be together how much leverage does the team with that player have in a trade. (Unless the ground work for the trade is already in place and the coring was just a formality.)

Bonner to Indy for #14 and Coleman

Dupree to PX for Cannon and #20

Even something like that seems a little expensive


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PostPosted: 01/16/18 12:24 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
If Bonner were to stay in PHX, would Dupree at Las Vegas (300 mi) be close enough?


With the W scheduling, it's still pretty hard to spend time together....even though Vegas tends to be a cheap and quick airline trip, so might be doable in one sense, there's still who's on the road and who's at home. And I would think the distraction would also be a negative...



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PostPosted: 01/16/18 1:11 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

There's also the little matter of Laimbeer liking defense and physical play. Does that sound like DuPree?

Did anyone suggest Bone for DuPree yet? I thought I saw it somewhere. Aging talent for high maintenance but still young talent.



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PostPosted: 01/16/18 8:19 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Bone for Dupre sounds like a Toxic Asset Relief Program.....


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Randy wrote:
Bone for Dupre sounds like a Toxic Asset Relief Program.....


What's the status of Bone? Does Phoenix own her rights?



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PostPosted: 01/16/18 9:22 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

She is RFA, Mercury have her rights.


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Bone is better than any backup they had last season, so unless they trade her to get Dupree back, maybe the Mercury keep her?



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The RFAs are hard to figure out. I think some will see their WNBA careers end. Some stay on their current teams.

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Kelsey Bone (PHX) - the wildcard. depends who wants to throw money at her.
Sydney Colson (LVS) - can get a cheaper backup PG.
Stefanie Dolson (CHI) - max deal with CHI?
Amber Harris (CHI) - gone
Bria Hartley (NYL) - vet minimum with NY?
Tianna Hawkins (WAS) - stays with WAS.
Jordan Hooper (CHI) - three point specialist that can land anywhere.
Natasha Howard (MIN) - stays with MIN, though not on a max deal.
Kayla McBride (LVS) - stays with LVS, max deal?
Theresa Plaisance (DAL) - if Cambage comes over, I can see DAL letting her go elsewhere.
Odyssey Sims (LAS) - stays with LAS, max deal?
Alyssa Thomas (CON) - stays with CON, max deal?



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PostPosted: 01/16/18 11:03 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
The RFAs are hard to figure out. I think some will see their WNBA careers end. Some stay on their current teams.

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Kelsey Bone (PHX) - the wildcard. depends who wants to throw money at her.
Sydney Colson (LVS) - can get a cheaper backup PG.
Stefanie Dolson (CHI) - max deal with CHI?
Amber Harris (CHI) - gone
Bria Hartley (NYL) - vet minimum with NY?
Tianna Hawkins (WAS) - stays with WAS.
Jordan Hooper (CHI) - three point specialist that can land anywhere.
Natasha Howard (MIN) - stays with MIN, though not on a max deal.
Kayla McBride (LVS) - stays with LVS, max deal?
Theresa Plaisance (DAL) - if Cambage comes over, I can see DAL letting her go elsewhere.
Odyssey Sims (LAS) - stays with LAS, max deal?
Alyssa Thomas (CON) - stays with CON, max deal?


Mostly agree except I think max money is not that hard to come by.

NY fans seems to undervalue Hartley, but teams won't. I think she gets max money.
Howard could also get max if she is willing to move.

I think maybe Hooper stays with the Sky and gives them another target for Sloot's passes. Wouldn't mind having her back on the Dream.[/b]


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PostPosted: 01/16/18 5:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
My prediction on Bonner and Dupree one plays one sits out.


Probably wrong... it's already been said they both want to play.


5 months...It's not like a lifetime.


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Randy wrote:
toad455 wrote:
The RFAs are hard to figure out. I think some will see their WNBA careers end. Some stay on their current teams.

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Kelsey Bone (PHX) - the wildcard. depends who wants to throw money at her.
Sydney Colson (LVS) - can get a cheaper backup PG.
Stefanie Dolson (CHI) - max deal with CHI?
Amber Harris (CHI) - gone
Bria Hartley (NYL) - vet minimum with NY?
Tianna Hawkins (WAS) - stays with WAS.
Jordan Hooper (CHI) - three point specialist that can land anywhere.
Natasha Howard (MIN) - stays with MIN, though not on a max deal.
Kayla McBride (LVS) - stays with LVS, max deal?
Theresa Plaisance (DAL) - if Cambage comes over, I can see DAL letting her go elsewhere.
Odyssey Sims (LAS) - stays with LAS, max deal?
Alyssa Thomas (CON) - stays with CON, max deal?


Mostly agree except I think max money is not that hard to come by.

NY fans seems to undervalue Hartley, but teams won't. I think she gets max money.
Howard could also get max if she is willing to move.

I think maybe Hooper stays with the Sky and gives them another target for Sloot's passes. Wouldn't mind having her back on the Dream.[/b]


I see a team like PHX maybe or ATL throwing money at Howard which will force minny to make a tough decision.



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WNBA 09 wrote:

I see a team like PHX maybe or ATL throwing money at Howard which will force minny to make a tough decision.


It's not a tough decision.



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Shades wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:

I see a team like PHX maybe or ATL throwing money at Howard which will force minny to make a tough decision.


It's not a tough decision.



You think they would let T-Ho walk?



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WNBA 09 wrote:
Shades wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:

I see a team like PHX maybe or ATL throwing money at Howard which will force minny to make a tough decision.


It's not a tough decision.



You think they would let T-Ho walk?


No, she's a lock. Read through the Minny thread.



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