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PostPosted: 12/20/17 2:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Michelle89 wrote:
Looks like Izzy was already irritated at the 5.17 mark in the 4th quarter when she was held/moving screen (you can debate that) and she threw a little elbow to the throat of an opponent to shake her off.


I wonder if Achonwa was retaliating on behalf of her teammate. I didn't see any immediate reaction on her part, but it doesn't mean Natalie didn't notice. As one of the bigger players on her team, she'd feel responsible to act as an enforcer. Why else go after Harrison at that particular moment? Was there any rough stuff earlier in the game? I didn't see anything in the preceding 2 or 3 minutes.



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PostPosted: 12/20/17 4:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
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Achonwa seems to be a master at aggravating opposing players enough to get them to snap.


She's the spiritual successor to Penny Taylor


I remember Cappie Pondexter clobbered Taylor on a fast break. What other players came after or took a shot at her?


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PostPosted: 12/20/17 4:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

root_thing wrote:
Michelle89 wrote:
Looks like Izzy was already irritated at the 5.17 mark in the 4th quarter when she was held/moving screen (you can debate that) and she threw a little elbow to the throat of an opponent to shake her off.


I wonder if Achonwa was retaliating on behalf of her teammate. I didn't see any immediate reaction on her part, but it doesn't mean Natalie didn't notice. As one of the bigger players on her team, she'd feel responsible to act as an enforcer. Why else go after Harrison at that particular moment? Was there any rough stuff earlier in the game? I didn't see anything in the preceding 2 or 3 minutes.


But do overseas teams usually have their high paid imports play that role?


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PostPosted: 12/20/17 5:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
Randy wrote:
Achonwa seems to be a master at aggravating opposing players enough to get them to snap.


It's called working too hard (from the opposing player's standpoint) and taking advantage of what the refs were allowing. Harrison needed to keep a cool head and she couldn't.


The refs were completely negligent on that play. No one should be expected to put up with that kind of shoving. Achonwa had it coming and IMO should be penalised whatever Izzy is penalised since she is at least as much to blame.



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PostPosted: 12/20/17 6:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

tfan wrote:
pilight wrote:
Randy wrote:
Achonwa seems to be a master at aggravating opposing players enough to get them to snap.


She's the spiritual successor to Penny Taylor


I remember Cappie Pondexter clobbered Taylor on a fast break. What other players came after or took a shot at her?


1. Plenette Pierson aka #Thugnificent

2 . Bri Karate Chop January



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PostPosted: 12/20/17 6:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Randy wrote:
root_thing wrote:
Michelle89 wrote:
Looks like Izzy was already irritated at the 5.17 mark in the 4th quarter when she was held/moving screen (you can debate that) and she threw a little elbow to the throat of an opponent to shake her off.


I wonder if Achonwa was retaliating on behalf of her teammate. I didn't see any immediate reaction on her part, but it doesn't mean Natalie didn't notice. As one of the bigger players on her team, she'd feel responsible to act as an enforcer. Why else go after Harrison at that particular moment? Was there any rough stuff earlier in the game? I didn't see anything in the preceding 2 or 3 minutes.


But do overseas teams usually have their high paid imports play that role?


Other than hockey, most sports don't hire players to serve as enforcers. Individuals decide for themselves to protect their teammates. It's an unspoken code of behavior to have your teammate's back. Big people carry the greater expectations.



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PostPosted: 12/21/17 5:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 12/21/17 8:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Luuuc wrote:
Shades wrote:
Randy wrote:
Achonwa seems to be a master at aggravating opposing players enough to get them to snap.


It's called working too hard (from the opposing player's standpoint) and taking advantage of what the refs were allowing. Harrison needed to keep a cool head and she couldn't.


The refs were completely negligent on that play. No one should be expected to put up with that kind of shoving. Achonwa had it coming and IMO should be penalised whatever Izzy is penalised since she is at least as much to blame.


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PostPosted: 12/22/17 1:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

La China Robinson introduced Bill Laimbeer as the President of Basketball Operations and Head Coach. Wonder if there is much distinction between a GM and a President of Basketball Operations.

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PostPosted: 12/26/17 1:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

tfan wrote:
La China Robinson introduced Bill Laimbeer as the President of Basketball Operations and Head Coach. Wonder if there is much distinction between a GM and a President of Basketball Operations.


Speaking broadly, the General Manager primarily handles personnel decisions - signings, trades, cuts, contract negotiations, coaching staff changes, etc.

The title of President of Basketball Operations is broader. The PBO position oversees administrative and legal issues, public relations, and game day logistics in addition to personnel. It is a higher position than GM.


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PostPosted: 12/26/17 2:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Wonder who Bill will hire as assistant coaches. Anybody heard anything about VJ or Riley. Pretty obvious now why VJ got a one year deal... Wonder what Rileys contract was for?


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PostPosted: 12/26/17 11:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Randy wrote:
Achonwa seems to be a master at aggravating opposing players enough to get them to snap.


I remember she got Kiah Stokes to snap and a Sun player ( I forget which one).


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PostPosted: 12/27/17 11:41 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Achonwa and Harrison played on the Korean All-Star team at halftime. They got them to do a little dance-off.


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PostPosted: 12/27/17 12:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Achonwa and Harrison played on the Korean All-Star team at halftime. They got them to do a little dance-off.


Video link ?



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PostPosted: 01/03/18 9:54 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Don't tell me you've volunteered for another round of damage control behind Trader Bill.

Actually yes, do tell me that, because that would be awesome.



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PostPosted: 01/03/18 11:02 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

If Bill's getting the band back together maybe they solve the whole Jefferson/Plum thing by just starting Elaine Powell at the point instead. Smile



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PostPosted: 01/03/18 11:39 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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If Bill's getting the band back together maybe they solve the whole Jefferson/Plum thing by just starting Elaine Powell at the point instead. Smile


Wouldn't that be a hit upside the head ....


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Richyyy wrote:
If Bill's getting the band back together maybe they solve the whole Jefferson/Plum thing by just starting Elaine Powell at the point instead. Smile


EP is the head coach at Langston University right now, but you never know ...

Razz

http://www.langstonsports.com/coach/0/2.php#Elaine_Powell


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PostPosted: 01/05/18 5:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ChasingRatDogmaSalade wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
If Bill's getting the band back together maybe they solve the whole Jefferson/Plum thing by just starting Elaine Powell at the point instead. Smile


EP is the head coach at Langston University right now, but you never know ...

Razz

http://www.langstonsports.com/coach/0/2.php#Elaine_Powell


Deanna Nolan also returns. Aces trade for her rights from New York for McBride and their 2019 1st round pick.



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PostPosted: 01/05/18 6:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
ChasingRatDogmaSalade wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
If Bill's getting the band back together maybe they solve the whole Jefferson/Plum thing by just starting Elaine Powell at the point instead. Smile


EP is the head coach at Langston University right now, but you never know ...

Razz

http://www.langstonsports.com/coach/0/2.php#Elaine_Powell


Deanna Nolan also returns. Aces trade for her rights from New York for McBride and their 2019 1st round pick.


Sadly, Nolan hasn't been playing much for UMMC so I don't think she's WNBA ready.


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PostPosted: 01/05/18 9:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Good grief, Tweety just turned 38 in August, can we bury this silly fantasy already?



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PostPosted: 01/05/18 9:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

stever wrote:
Good grief, Tweety just turned 38 in August, can we bury this silly fantasy already?


I kinda felt there was a sarcasm font involved.


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PostPosted: 01/05/18 10:36 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Nerd2 wrote:
stever wrote:
Good grief, Tweety just turned 38 in August, can we bury this silly fantasy already?


I kinda felt there was a sarcasm font involved.


Just a bit. Wink



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Shay Murphy with 50 pts in a game including 9 threes.




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