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PostPosted: 10/18/17 12:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Katie should be allowed to pick her assistants and would assume that would be the case unless Thomas has lost his mind completely. I'm sure VJ would much prefer a head coaching job but not sure she has impressed any GM's with her coaching skills last year in SA.


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PostPosted: 10/18/17 1:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Tanisha Wright just took an assistant coach position at UNCC, fwiw.


Significant because Tanisha definitely won't be coming back as a player. That's one question answered.

I agree with Bob. Herb Williams and T-Spoon are institutional employees who would be with the team regardless of who is coach. That's not to say Katie doesn't like them -- I have no idea -- but I think she'll be given one hire, namely a replacement for herself. That being the case, I doubt it would be someone like VJ with no previous connection to Smith. Also, being a first-time head coach, I'd think Katie would want a veteran to advise her rather than a recently retired player or a fairly inexperienced assistant. Just throwing some names out there, maybe Julie Plank who was her HC in Washington or Jenny Boucek whom she knows from Seattle. Her health permitting, maybe even Nancy Darsch who was not only Smith's college coach but also the other assistant at Seattle during Katie's two years there. Remember folks, this is not a popularity contest for the love of Liberty fans. Razz It's likely to be someone that Katie knows and trusts regardless of how we feel about them.



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PostPosted: 10/18/17 2:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

root_thing wrote:
stever wrote:
Tanisha Wright just took an assistant coach position at UNCC, fwiw.


Significant because Tanisha definitely won't be coming back as a player. That's one question answered.

I agree with Bob. Herb Williams and T-Spoon are institutional employees who would be with the team regardless of who is coach. That's not to say Katie doesn't like them -- I have no idea -- but I think she'll be given one hire, namely a replacement for herself. That being the case, I doubt it would be someone like VJ with no previous connection to Smith. Also, being a first-time head coach, I'd think Katie would want a veteran to advise her rather than a recently retired player or a fairly inexperienced assistant. Just throwing some names out there, maybe Julie Plank who was her HC in Washington or Jenny Boucek whom she knows from Seattle. Her health permitting, maybe even Nancy Darsch who was not only Smith's college coach but also the other assistant at Seattle during Katie's two years there. Remember folks, this is not a popularity contest for the love of Liberty fans. Razz It's likely to be someone that Katie knows and trusts regardless of how we feel about them.


All this seems right. I look forward to learning of a new assistant coach.



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PostPosted: 10/18/17 6:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I've been thinking about Herb Williams and his long tenure at Madison Square Garden. For anyone interested, here's a brief look at his basketball career.

Williams played at Ohio State, then played EIGHTEEN seasons in the NBA for Indiana, Dallas, Toronto, and the Knicks. He spent 11 seasons on the coaching staff of the Knicks, twice serving as interim head coach. And he is now about to begin his third season on the staff of the Liberty.

Here are the head coaches under whom Williams has served as an assistant: Don Chaney, Lenny Wilkins, Larry Brown, sexual harasser Isiah Thomas, Mike D'Antoni, Mike Woodson, and Bill Laimbeer. And now we can add Katie Smith to that list.

By my count, Herb Williams will be entering his TWENTY-SECOND season at Madison Square Garden as a player or coach.

I am hoping that when Herb Williams retires as a coach he publishes an extremely candid memoir. Imagine what Williams has seen in his basketball career, especially since 2003 as a coach in DolanWorld.



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What current Liberty players might Bill be willing to trade for to have them on The LV Stars ?



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What current Liberty players might Bill be willing to trade for to have them on The LV Stars ?


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Shades wrote:
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What current Liberty players might Bill be willing to trade for to have them on The LV Stars ?


Charles? Surprised


Charles ain't leaving New York. Zellous possibly. Maybe he'll take Sugar with him to Vegas? Rodgers & Stokes to Las Vegas for Powers & the #6 pick?



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PostPosted: 10/20/17 9:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I find it fascinating that people can propose possible trades for the Liberty when we have no idea who could actually make those trades. Do people think that Katie Smith, who's never been a head coach in the WNBA, is effectively going to be the GM as well? If not, then who is? Suppose Bill Laimbeer wants to get Sugar Rodgers, Kiah Stokes, or someone else from the Liberty roster. Who does he call?



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PostPosted: 10/20/17 10:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I find it fascinating that people can propose possible trades for the Liberty when we have no idea who could actually make those trades. Do people think that Katie Smith, who's never been a head coach in the WNBA, is effectively going to be the GM as well? If not, then who is? Suppose Bill Laimbeer wants to get Sugar Rodgers, Kiah Stokes, or someone else from the Liberty roster. Who does he call?


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PostPosted: 10/20/17 10:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Technically Laimbeer in his 2nd go round with the Liberty wasn't the GM, we all just gave him credit for the roster moves because, well we don't actually know who is the GM. It is possible it was a group effort that included K. Bernet (I obviously am not even sure of her name or exact title) I. Thomas and Laimbeer. Maybe Laimbeer wasn't really as involved with the decision as we thought and that might have been (besides I'm assuming a decent bump in salary) a reason he might have wanted to go to Las Vegas in the first place

If Bill wants to make a trade I'm sure he knows who to call, it just that we the fans don't know.

I could see him having some interest in Rodgers, Stokes, Zellous, Hartley, L. Allen he might even do a low ball offer for R. Allen if he still thinks she can develop. But Shades said in another thread and it is a good point that while he might be interested in some of the Liberty players, sending assets to the Liberty especially decent one might not be the best look.

I still think if healthy NY should try to get Jefferson away from Las Vegas, she isn't the best fit with Laimbeer's system, and her health is enough of a question mark that I could see her as attainable (if not for NY than for someone). I would really like to see a "true" PG back on the Liberty. I've never felt completely confident in Boyd (though I like and root for her) and while I think L. Allen is very capable and I'm happy to have her as an option until she develops her offense she is a good/safe back up PG, not a starting PG on a team that can contend.


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PostPosted: 10/21/17 6:48 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I can tell you when Bernert was there she was the boss...ask any lib official short of Isiah and youd here KB is the GM or KB is in charge.

I went on a rant right before the streak on how that is badly missing this year...and it's still a problem...You got Spoon and Cash with the same title...Isiah being a figure head president and then Clarke running all the marketing...not a good setup and I do have insiders saying it was too many cooks last year and led to trouble

It's an issue...I for one hope Bill takes Swin off our hands...know she was pregnant but just felt she did very little.



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PostPosted: 10/21/17 11:15 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Happycappie25 wrote:
I can tell you when Bernert was there she was the boss...ask any lib official short of Isiah and youd here KB is the GM or KB is in charge.

I went on a rant right before the streak on how that is badly missing this year...and it's still a problem...You got Spoon and Cash with the same title...Isiah being a figure head president and then Clarke running all the marketing...not a good setup and I do have insiders saying it was too many cooks last year and led to trouble

It's an issue...I for one hope Bill takes Swin off our hands...know she was pregnant but just felt she did very little.


If all that you say is true, then it will be even more of a problem for the 2018 season than for 2017. When Bernert left, at least Bill Laimbeer--with lots of GM experience--was one of the "too many cooks." Now potentially we still have too many cooks, none of whom has experience as a GM in the WNBA. Plus the continued, bizarre situation of two people holding the same title. All part of DolanWorld.



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PostPosted: 10/21/17 3:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

root_thing wrote:
stever wrote:

Tanisha Wright just took an assistant coach position at UNCC, fwiw.


Significant because Tanisha definitely won't be coming back as a player. That's one question answered.


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PostPosted: 10/21/17 10:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Minor self-correction. I just took a look at the staff directory on a New York Liberty web page. Teresa Weatherspoon is listed as Director of Player & Franchise Development. Swin Cash is listed as Director of Franchise Development. Not the exact same title, but close.

Should we have a contest as to what these titles mean and which title is better to have? We could all vote on the different responses. The winner we pick could then demand to meet with Jimmy Dolan and have him explain what HIS answers are. Smile



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PostPosted: 10/22/17 7:42 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Bob Lamm wrote:
Minor self-correction. I just took a look at the staff directory on a New York Liberty web page. Teresa Weatherspoon is listed as Director of Player & Franchise Development. Swin Cash is listed as Director of Franchise Development. Not the exact same title, but close.

Should we have a contest as to what these titles mean and which title is better to have? We could all vote on the different responses. The winner we pick could then demand to meet with Jimmy Dolan and have him explain what HIS answers are. Smile


I'm too lazy to dig the article explaining this but basically 6-8 weeks into Swin's run the Same title Swin had was added to spoons player development (essentially coaching) role.....so she got the same title as swin but also has her role with the team on the court...its complicated but yes in the FO Swin and Spoon have the same title.



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PostPosted: 10/22/17 9:12 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Happycappie25 wrote:
Bob Lamm wrote:
Minor self-correction. I just took a look at the staff directory on a New York Liberty web page. Teresa Weatherspoon is listed as Director of Player & Franchise Development. Swin Cash is listed as Director of Franchise Development. Not the exact same title, but close.

Should we have a contest as to what these titles mean and which title is better to have? We could all vote on the different responses. The winner we pick could then demand to meet with Jimmy Dolan and have him explain what HIS answers are. Smile


I'm too lazy to dig the article explaining this but basically 6-8 weeks into Swin's run the Same title Swin had was added to spoons player development (essentially coaching) role.....so she got the same title as swin but also has her role with the team on the court...its complicated but yes in the FO Swin and Spoon have the same title.


I remember the history with these titles, which you have reported correctly. As to the question of what it genuinely means that the two of them both are seemingly in charge of "franchise development," whatever that is, who knows? This is DolanWorld. It may mean absolutely nothing.



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PostPosted: 10/22/17 12:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

DolanWorld, as it applies to the Liberty, consists of Isiah Thomas, Herb Williams, and formerly Allan Houston. I doubt Dolan cares about T-Spoon or Swin -- they're probably barely a blip on his radar screen. T-Spoon shows up at new STH recruiting events -- with or without Isiah -- which is clearly a marketing function. She's been doing it unofficially in addition to her player development work, so I guess it was only fair that they add the title -- especially since Swin was going to be less available because of her pregnancy. I'm not sure if anybody has a clear idea of what Cash should be doing: basketball-related, broadcasting, marketing -- I think management just feels she can be an asset and they're still figuring out how to use her. In the meantime, Swin mostly attends community events and she walks around before games greeting people like Bernert used to do. So the franchise development title appears to broadly cover marketing and community relations.



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PostPosted: 11/01/17 6:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

http://westchester.gleague.nba.com/news/liberty-legend-teresa-weatherspoon-serve-color-analyst-westchester-knicks-home-games/



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PostPosted: 11/05/17 10:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I was looking at the over-seas thread and saw that Prince was one of the American's who played with Vadeeva in Russia. If she was willing to come over would Vadeeva be a good fit with the Liberty sharing time with Stokes at the Center spot?


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I like Vadeeva, but she's not a natural fit for Liberty-style switching defense -- assuming Katie wants to run the same system. I haven't seen Maria play yet this season. Unless she made an effort to change her body, Vadeeva isn't athletic and she doesn't block shots. Also, not the most physical player in the world. On the other hand, Vadeeva is smart and has great court awareness. She positions herself well and always seems to be Johnny-on-the-spot for loose balls. I wouldn't recommend drafting her with that #10 pick, but it's probably not a disaster either. As a move, grading would be in the B-/C+ range for me.



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PostPosted: 11/06/17 7:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I like Vadeeva, but she's not a natural fit for Liberty-style switching defense -- assuming Katie wants to run the same system. I haven't seen Maria play yet this season. Unless she made an effort to change her body, Vadeeva isn't athletic and she doesn't block shots. Also, not the most physical player in the world. On the other hand, Vadeeva is smart and has great court awareness. She positions herself well and always seems to be Johnny-on-the-spot for loose balls. I wouldn't recommend drafting her with that #10 pick, but it's probably not a disaster either. As a move, grading would be in the B-/C+ range for me.

Plus you obviously have to build in when you'd see her and how often she'd keep coming back. Even if she commits to coming immediately, the chances of a non-American skipping future seasons or just failing to settle altogether has to be significantly higher. Apart from Abrosimova, who was pretty Americanised after her time at UConn, the history of Russians showing up to play in the WNBA is awful.



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the history of Russians showing up to play in the WNBA is awful.


Hammon showed up fairly regularly Wink



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the history of Russians showing up to play in the WNBA is awful.


Hammon showed up fairly regularly Wink


Yeah, but she went through the college system, same as Abrosimova. Wink



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Queenie wrote:
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the history of Russians showing up to play in the WNBA is awful.


Hammon showed up fairly regularly Wink


Yeah, but she went through the college system, same as Abrosimova. Wink


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https://summitthoops.com/2017/11/07/podcast-new-york-liberty-head-coach-katie-smith/

I'm loving these Katie Smith Interviews Smile

Coach Smith will be in Columbus this weekend for the UCONN-Stanford and Louisville-Ohio State games:

WNBA prospects for each team:

UCONN: Kia Nurse, Gabby Williams, Stevens?

Louisville: Hines-Allen

Stanford: McPhee

Ohio State: Kelsey Mitchell, Harper, Mavunga


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PostPosted: 11/08/17 8:42 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'm really excited to see what might transpire. Sugar is a commodity who can be moved. We've discussed some scenarios in the past about whatever value she has. But one thing I've now been thinking about is the possibility of trading her along with the 10th overall pick in exchange for however many spots you can attain. Might work depending on the team involved.



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I don't want to trade Rodgers but if we had to my unrealistic fantasy trade would be (I said but already but I'm going to repeat myself and make it more complicated)

Rodgers, L. Allen and #10 to LV for Jefferson and #13

result
NY
Jefferson/Boyd
Prince/Hartley/Schimmel
Zellous/Raincock-Ekunwe
Charles/(#13) Mavunga
Stokes/Swords
#12 roster spot whoever is better in camp between Zahui B and R. Allen since or line up is fluid enough to work with either as the last option with NRE being able to play 3 or 4
We bring back Swords to back up Stokes as UFA
#13 Mavunga shocks everyone and becomes an almost first round talent this season and a decent pro stretch 4
Schimmel finds her passion comes back for redemption story behind enough depth that it won't hurt BY if it doesn't work out.
And most importantly NY gets a true PG in Jefferson who can score in double digits, hit the three and set up Charles anywhere on the floor.

Vegas
Plum/L. Allen
McBride/Rosgers
(#10) Nared/Hamby/Burdick
(#1) Wilson/Dos Santos
Harrison/Alexander

12th spot Coffey. Colson, Montgomery or Holmes depending on what BL thinks he needs most/
Laimbeer has 3 players he is familiar with (Rodgers/Allen and Burdick) that know his system, improves the defense by adding Rodgers, Allen Nared and getting Dos Santos back, solves the Plum/Jefferson small back court issue and Vegas looks like a real W team with some depth that Laimbeer can work with.

I realize it probably won't happen but I don't think it is that crazy of a trade for either team. The smaller more realistic version Rodgers and #10 for Jefferson but I was feeling fanciful so why not go all out and Laimbeer really speaks highly of both Rodgers and L. Allen so why not go all in.


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On a different note I don't think Rodgers and #10 gets us to a higher draft spot. I don't see Vegas or Indy trading lottery picks and Chicago needs less assets not more, if anything I could see Chicago doing a 2 for one with a player and one of their picks for a better player. Seattle might do Rodgers and #10 for #5 but they have been burnt lately with trades and anyone NY might want at #5 (a falling Mitchell, Deshields or Williams) I think Seattle would want (maybe Hughes would do it if Deshields and he sees her as a possible attitude problem if so I would be all for getting Diamond in NY but I think Hughes would prefer Stokes and #10 to Rodgers and #10), Same with Russell, if Russell is good enough that NY would want her with #5 I think Seattle (who also needs a center) would just pick her and if Mercedes isn't a sure thing at #5 that Seattle would be willing to trade her than I'm not sure NY wouldn't be better off just keeping Rodgers and the decent player they can draft at #10.

Unless there are a number of early entries once you get to #6 is there really that much difference between #6 and #10.

Which is why I think if NY packages Rodgers and #10 it would be more likely for a player than a pick IMO.

My other trade possibilities would be

Rodgers and #10 for Hayes (to play at SF)
Rodgers and #10 for Howard (maybe)
Rodgers and #10 for Bonner (if we don't have to do the whole Dupree thing as well)
Rodgers and #10 for Sims (if she can play lead/PG)
Rodgers and #10 for Hill (If she can play SF)
The flip side or Rodgers and #10 for Jefferson
Rodgers and #10 for Plum (If Smith sees a little of herself in Plum, and Plum can play PG and take a Diggins like step forward her sophomore season, maybe)
Rodgers and #10 for A. Gray (I think Dallas would prefer Stokes and #10, can Gray play SF)
Rodgers straight up For A. Davis? (I think just signing Christmas as an UFA would be smarter than either of the Dallas moves)


(Not saying I like these just trying to keep it realisitc) (Honestly I would much rather trade Prince but her desire to be in NY, age and Russian commitment makes that seem off the table)

Also I'm just playing the imagination game don't take either of these posts too seriously.


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PostPosted: 11/09/17 8:37 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Are you sure that Sugar is under contract for 2018? The WNBA salary spreadsheet doesn't show that to be the case. Of course, the reliability of that source is not proven.



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I'd be surprised if Rodgers only signed for one year. And yes, we've found numerous questionable items on the WNBA salary spreadsheet.

In all likelihood, Sugar is making max. Hartley is an RFA, and I'm guessing NY would like to bring her back but at a reasonable rate since her continuing status as a starter is less than certain. So, if you're another team, would you rather trade assets for Sugar AND pay her max or simply offer max to Hartley knowing that NY is unlikely to match? Sugar is the better defender, but over the second half of the season, I would argue that Hartley was more reliable on offense. You also get a bit more versatility since Bria can play both backcourt positions (with limitations), whereas Rodgers is pretty much only a shooting guard. Doing neither is certainly a reasonable option.Razz Or maybe the other team can absorb Rodgers' salary by trading back a big contract of their own.

If Sugar actually did sign a one-year contract, then she would be an RFA. That opens up a whole other line of discussion.



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I got curious and looked up the press release when Sugar was signed, which really doesn't help. All it said was "Per team policy, the terms of the agreements were not disclosed." The spreadsheet is right just often enough to give some credence to it, but who knows. It would seem quite strange to me that coming off the year Sugar in 2016 the Liberty would not have signed her for more than just one year.



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I wonder if Sugar Rodgers will be better off with a new head coach (Katie Smith) or a new team entirely. I don't mean this as a criticism of Bill Laimbeer. I have no idea why Rodgers had, for her, such a disappointing season shooting the basketball. She certainly played hard. What went wrong? Will playing for a different head coach help?



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Does anyone have the list of free agents for the Liberty? I've been gathering as much data as I can find out there but the Liberty (and Dream, Stars, Mystics, and Fever) don't have any accurate info out there.

The salary DB is better than nothing but it does seem to jump to conclusions at times. Most specific example I have is that it listed both Sami Whitcomb and Carolyn Swords as being signed through the 2018 season when they are free agents this year.


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PostPosted: 11/09/17 11:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I believe it is

UFA
K. Vaughn

RFA
B. Hartley

Reserved status (Possibly)
L. Allen
N. Raincock-Ekunwe

Not sure on the status of
Rodgers (if she only signed one year she would be a RFA)
Zellous (If she is out of contract she would be an UFA)
R. Allen (if she is out of contract would be reserved)

Boyd, Stokes, Zahui B all still on rookie contract

Prince and Charles are under contract


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PostPosted: 11/10/17 1:19 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Around the 19 minute mark of Megdal's interview with Katie Smith, he mentions that Tina Charles is a free agent. He asks Katie if she expects Tina back, and the answer is "I would hope so" followed by a nervous laugh. Laughing

I thought Charles was under contract too, but she did just complete her 4th year with New York. If they gave her a max term contract, that would be 4 years. Even though Tina likely wants to stay, and the Liberty would core her if she didn't, you know someone on this board is still going to speculate about her leaving. Let the rumors begin!



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Even though Tina likely wants to stay, and the Liberty would core her if she didn't, you know someone on this board is still going to speculate about her leaving. Let the rumors begin!


http://boards.rebkell.net/viewtopic.php?t=92523&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=255



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I have spoken against the coring rule many times so I won't be a hypocrite and say we should core Charles.

With that said I would be super shocked if she would want to leave, she has deep connections to NY and I'm sure we will offer her a max contract both years and money.

If she does want to leave she might as well just go to Minnesota and reunite with Moore and Montgomery. Brunson would probably be willing to come off the bench at this point, and Minny would extend its championship window another 3 to 5 years or so. Atl would be an interesting option as well. If Vegas doesn't get the #1 pick Vegas would be a good location add her and say Deshields or G. Williams and Vegas becomes a near contender year 1. I feel comfortable making these suggestion only because I can't actually see her leaving.


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What was that about Thibault and Charles again? Laughing


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J-Spoon wrote:
I have spoken against the coring rule many times so I won't be a hypocrite and say we should core Charles.

With that said I would be super shocked if she would want to leave, she has deep connections to NY and I'm sure we will offer her a max contract both years and money.


Coring have proven to be a joke in recent years. 3 of the 5 cored players from last season didn't even play, and only 1 played the team that cored her. I agree that Charles probably isn't going anywhere.



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I find it fascinating that people can propose possible trades for the Liberty when we have no idea who could actually make those trades. Do people think that Katie Smith, who's never been a head coach in the WNBA, is effectively going to be the GM as well? If not, then who is? Suppose Bill Laimbeer wants to get Sugar Rodgers, Kiah Stokes, or someone else from the Liberty roster. Who does he call?


Ghostbusters!


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It's hard for me to post anything about sexual harasser Isiah Thomas other than a complete denunciation, but Liberty fans might want to read this article from today's New York Times:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/15/sports/basketball/new-york-liberty-isiah-thomas.html

P.S. I'm not sure if this article should be posted in this thread or in the discussion about the possible sale of the Liberty. I consider it relevant in both places. If a moderator feels it should be moved, or if Liberty fans feel it should be moved, I'm happy to do so.



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PostPosted: 11/16/17 7:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I think he's a long shot for buying the team, IMO.



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It's hard to know which thread to put this in, but I'm choosing this one.

We (Liberty fans on this board) have been focusing on who might buy the team and on where they might play. Meanwhile, I'm wondering about what's happening right now--on a different level--in this insane atmosphere.

The Liberty, as before, has no GM. We didn't know who made various decisions last year and now Bill Laimbeer is gone. Will there be a new GM? Will sexual harasser Isiah Thomas be involved in selecting a new GM? Is he already out the door? Or completely focused on where he'll land next?

Can Katie Smith hire a new assistant coach? What would she say: "Hey, it would be great for you to join us if we have a team in 2018! And we might play at MSG, or the Barclay Center, or the Nassau Coliseum, or Levien Gym, or in some other metropolitan area entirely." And how can Katie Smith or anyone from the Liberty approach a free agent that the team might want?



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PostPosted: 11/18/17 8:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Free agency doesn't start until January/February (at least - they might push it further if there's still uncertainty over a franchise), so if they're talking to any free agents they probably should keep that quiet Wink.



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PostPosted: 11/30/17 12:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

http://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/21619656/msg-discussing-sale-wnba-new-york-liberty-several-groups

Not sure if this has already been posted but some optimism for the liberty fans !!



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PostPosted: 11/30/17 1:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I will not be surprised if the Liberty stays at the MSG. I have been there twice to watch WNBA games. The crowd is electric and very loud. The fans there love the Liberty.


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I will not be surprised if the Liberty stays at the MSG.


I'd be very surprised. Dolan is going to want prime arena fees. That makes playing at MSG not economically feasible unless they jack up the ticket prices, and then very few people will come to the games.



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Shades wrote:
UofDel_Alum wrote:
I will not be surprised if the Liberty stays at the MSG.


I'd be very surprised. Dolan is going to want prime arena fees. That makes playing at MSG not economically feasible unless they jack up the ticket prices, and then very few people will come to the games.


I could see this being a part of the condition of sale. I expect that the Liberty will at least play 2018 in MSG, because the season is already less than six months away and it does not appear a sale is imminent. More likely, if the sale goes through to a New York based group they would play one more year at MSG and then move to a more appropriate facility long term, unless they get long term cost concessions from the arena.


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PostPosted: 11/30/17 3:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Looks like swin was right after all , Her comments on IG were right .
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"Liberty Fans dont worry , there are some things in the works You will hear some news in the coming few weeks"
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