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PostPosted: 09/21/17 12:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Wiseone1 wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
So Liberty fans there seem to be some unrestricted free agents out there next year that could fit in NY, who should we offer some money to?

likely based on things read in other threads
R. Montgomery, Swords, Christmas, Currie, C. Little, T. Young, Langhorne

IDK but could be list
January, Perkins, Bentley, Lavender, Clark, Latta, Pondexter, Paris, K. Thomas, Lyttle, A. Montgomery, Carson

and what about on our team
Vaughn? Zellous? Prince? I know Hartley is a RFA.



Also Free Agents Nneka, Kizer, Glory, Stricklen, and Shenice Johnson


How do you figure? After they lost Toliver, Toler left no Sparks free agents to be had.

http://sparks.wnba.com/news/wnba-mvp-nneka-ogwumike-extends-contract-los-angeles-sparks/

http://sparks.wnba.com/news/alana-beard-re-signs-los-angeles-sparks/
http://sparks.wnba.com/news/two-time-wnba-mvp-candace-parker-extends-contract-los-angeles-sparks/
http://sparks.wnba.com/news/jantel-lavender-extends-contract-los-angeles-sparks/


Sims should be a restricted free agent. Pump up that Sparks salary cap.



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Wonder how Stricklen fits into the puzzle with Chiney coming back. They need her shooting but will she want to take on a reduced role?


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Wonder how Stricklen fits into the puzzle with Chiney coming back. They need her shooting but will she want to take on a reduced role?


Stricklen should be happy she has whatever role.



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Request to moderators: can we change the subject line of this thread to

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Request to moderators: can we change the subject line of this thread to

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Thanks to whatever moderator(s) made the change!



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J-Spoon wrote:
So Liberty fans there seem to be some unrestricted free agents out there next year that could fit in NY, who should we offer some money to?

likely based on things read in other threads
R. Montgomery, Swords Christmas, Currie, C. Little, T. Young, Langhorne

IDK but could be list
January, Perkins, Bentley, Lavender, Clark, Latta, Pondexter, Paris, K. Thomas, Lyttle, A. Montgomery, Carson

and what about on our team
Vaughn? Zellous? Prince? I know Hartley a RFA.


Renee Montgomery has been lookin real good this playoff run, i like her swag Embarassed


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LibFan25 wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
So Liberty fans there seem to be some unrestricted free agents out there next year that could fit in NY, who should we offer some money to?

likely based on things read in other threads
R. Montgomery, Swords Christmas, Currie, C. Little, T. Young, Langhorne

IDK but could be list
January, Perkins, Bentley, Lavender, Clark, Latta, Pondexter, Paris, K. Thomas, Lyttle, A. Montgomery, Carson

and what about on our team
Vaughn? Zellous? Prince? I know Hartley a RFA.


Renee Montgomery has been lookin real good this playoff run, i like her swag Embarassed


JLav isn't a free agent but I do like R. Montgomery in New York. What ya say Liberty fans?



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hangtyme24 wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
So Liberty fans there seem to be some unrestricted free agents out there next year that could fit in NY, who should we offer some money to?

likely based on things read in other threads
R. Montgomery, Swords Christmas, Currie, C. Little, T. Young, Langhorne

IDK but could be list
January, Perkins, Bentley, Lavender, Clark, Latta, Pondexter, Paris, K. Thomas, Lyttle, A. Montgomery, Carson

and what about on our team
Vaughn? Zellous? Prince? I know Hartley a RFA.


Renee Montgomery has been lookin real good this playoff run, i like her swag Embarassed


JLav isn't a free agent but I do like R. Montgomery in New York. What ya say Liberty fans?


I don't love it. She's not super-disciplined and the Liberty have two energy players off the bench already in Boyd and Allen. If we were talking adding a star player, hey, I'm down. But I don't see her as a difference-maker at this point to the magnitude that we need to get a top-2 seed.



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hangtyme24 wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
So Liberty fans there seem to be some unrestricted free agents out there next year that could fit in NY, who should we offer some money to?

likely based on things read in other threads
R. Montgomery, Swords Christmas, Currie, C. Little, T. Young, Langhorne

IDK but could be list
January, Perkins, Bentley, Lavender, Clark, Latta, Pondexter, Paris, K. Thomas, Lyttle, A. Montgomery, Carson

and what about on our team
Vaughn? Zellous? Prince? I know Hartley a RFA.


Renee Montgomery has been lookin real good this playoff run, i like her swag Embarassed


JLav isn't a free agent but I do like R. Montgomery in New York. What ya say Liberty fans?


I feel like this is deja vu, because I could have sworn I already said she turned down the Liberty for the 2016 season, and Laimbeer (or whoever) is probably not a glutton for rejection.

There's absolutely no indication that Montgomery is unhappy with her current situation, and vice versa.



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PostPosted: 09/29/17 7:28 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Just what the Liberty would need, another streaky guard who has to be high-usage to be at her best.

I'll also pass on Lavender unless she suddenly remembers she used to have a post game.



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I'd take Lavender in a free-agent situation.



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Shades wrote:
hangtyme24 wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
So Liberty fans there seem to be some unrestricted free agents out there next year that could fit in NY, who should we offer some money to?

likely based on things read in other threads
R. Montgomery, Swords Christmas, Currie, C. Little, T. Young, Langhorne

IDK but could be list
January, Perkins, Bentley, Lavender, Clark, Latta, Pondexter, Paris, K. Thomas, Lyttle, A. Montgomery, Carson

and what about on our team
Vaughn? Zellous? Prince? I know Hartley a RFA.


Renee Montgomery has been lookin real good this playoff run, i like her swag Embarassed


JLav isn't a free agent but I do like R. Montgomery in New York. What ya say Liberty fans?


I feel like this is deja vu, because I could have sworn I already said she turned down the Liberty for the 2016 season, and Laimbeer (or whoever) is probably not a glutton for rejection.

There's absolutely no indication that Montgomery is unhappy with her current situation, and vice versa.


According to a very recent article that broke down the Lynx for next season, the author was waffling on bringing Montgomery back. I'm not sure if it was just the author's opinion, but this author tends to be heavily guided by the front office.

So maybe Montgomery will be more available than I thought.

They should have a core to use on somebody and Brunson is said not to want to leave, so they might try a core and trade of some guard.



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Do you happen to have the link handy on that article?



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Renee is a midget. She should probably stay away from Bill.



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It's moot. The Liberty don't need Montgomery. They have more depth at the position than they had when they tried to acquire her. While the depth doesn't mean the position isn't murky for the Libs, Montgomery does nothing to clarify it. Especially when all 3 players at the position are young and two have potential to improve.



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NYL_WNBA_FAN wrote:
It's moot. The Liberty don't need Montgomery. They have more depth at the position than they had when they tried to acquire her. While the depth doesn't mean the position isn't murky for the Libs, Montgomery does nothing to clarify it. Especially when all 3 players at the position are young and two have potential to improve.


I agree.

It might be a little different if it appeared that Laimbeer could trade one or perhaps even two of the current guards. But, for various reasons, I don't see any of them as having great trade value right now. Trading one of the guards with little return so there would be an opening to sign Montgomery would make no sense.



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The Liberty did have interest in Montgomery in the past, will they be interested again? who knows but we know Bria Hartley is a restricted free agent.

i prefer to resign Hartley but if we don't sign her i would not have a problem bringing in a veteran PG

this off-season is very critical to the Libs success next year, just watching the Finals making me think...we got some work to do....time is ticking


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i prefer to resign Hartley but if we don't sign her i would not have a problem bringing in a veteran PG


I doubt there will be any teams in a bidding war for her, except maybe SEA. I kinda wonder when SEA drafted Hartley, was it a prearranged draft pick and trade or was it a trade negotiated after the fact. The Hartley trade announcement seemed to take awhile if I remember correctly.

How's the Liberty cap space doing? You have Hartley and Rodgers getting raises. There's debate on whether Schimmel would be in a position to get a raise. Maybe you'd want to give her a little raise to help lure her back. Probably a funny concept, but you have seen her potential from her rookie year. Next year Zahui and Stokes will be looking for raises. Seems like the Liberty have a small window of time before they either have to move somebody(s) or consider going with 11.



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I definitely think Laimbeer will stick with L. Allen & Boyd for next season. He speaks very highly of Allen, so I doubt she isn't in the plan for 2018.



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I definitely think Laimbeer will stick with L. Allen & Boyd for next season. He speaks very highly of Allen, so I doubt she isn't in the plan for 2018.


I think Hartley, Boyd, and Lindsay Allen will all be back. Barring any major surprises, I think Hartley will begin the season as the starting point guard. But Laimbeer will be looking both in training camp and throughout the season to see if Boyd or Allen is ready to displace Hartley as the starter and play big minutes.



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The disposal player/guard is Sugar. A lackluster season despite somehow being named an All-star. She's worth something to other teams and has decent trade value. Neither L. Allen or Boyd have any trade value.



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The disposal player/guard is Sugar. A lackluster season despite somehow being named an All-star. She's worth something to other teams and has decent trade value. Neither L. Allen or Boyd have any trade value.


One of the questions surely facing Bill Laimbeer at the moment is whether Sugar Rodgers indeed has "decent" trade value. I think it's hard to say. You and I are well aware that she had a "lackluster" season. So are GMs and scouts for other teams. She plays hard and is a strong defensive player, but how much will some team give up for a shooting guard who had such a terrible season shooting?

Sugar will be 28 1/2 when the 2018 season begins. It will be her sixth season in the WNBA. She averaged 14.5 points per game in 2016 and seemed ready to become a genuine All Star. Instead, she took a significant step back, averaging only 10.5 points per game, with substantial decreases in her overall field-goal percentage and her percentage on three-pointers.
Bill Laimbeer has to wonder what he might get from Sugar in 2018. Other GMs would have to wonder as well.



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So Laimbeer is reported to be the coach & GM of the Las Vegas Stars. Thoughts? Who should replace Bill? Katie Smith?



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Katie Smith seems like the obvious choice, VJ would be the ironic one.

Also sad to see Laimbeer go but maybe change will be good.




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Also our injured PG for theirs

Boyd and L. Allen for Jefferson (makes sense if he like Boyd and Allen as much as he seemed to, and they already know the offense he like to run.) Jefferson solves NY's PG problem and bring the shooting and 3rd offensive option to add to our two headed SG.

draft Nared at #10 and Mavunga at #22

Jefferson/Hartley
Rodgers/Prince
Zealous/Nared/R. Allen
Charles/Raincock-Ekunwe/Mavunga
Stokes/Vaugh or Zahui B or Swords or Free agent

I kind of like it. I start Rodgers with Jefferson for stronger defense, let Prince and Hartley anchor the 2nd unit offense.




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toad455 wrote:
So Laimbeer is reported to be the coach & GM of the Las Vegas Stars. Thoughts? Who should replace Bill? Katie Smith?

Thought you were pulling my leg....Guess not
http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/liberty/bill-laimbeer-leaving-liberty-to-be-stars-coach-and-gm-ap-source-says-1.14459475


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PostPosted: 10/13/17 10:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Katie Smith is the new Liberty head coach.

http://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/21014980/bill-laimbeer-san-antonio-stars-coach-gm-team-sold-relocated


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Katie Smith is the new Liberty head coach.

http://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/21014980/bill-laimbeer-san-antonio-stars-coach-gm-team-sold-relocated


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Congrats to Katie Smith!
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Wonder if T-Spoon will move to the bench as an assistant coach


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Also our injured PG for theirs

Boyd and L. Allen for Jefferson (makes sense if he like Boyd and Allen as much as he seemed to, and they already know the offense he like to run.) Jefferson solves NY's PG problem and bring the shooting and 3rd offensive option to add to our two headed SG.

draft Nared at #10 and Mavunga at #22

Jefferson/Hartley
Rodgers/Prince
Zealous/Nared/R. Allen
Charles/Raincock-Ekunwe/Mavunga
Stokes/Vaugh or Zahui B or Swords or Free agent

I kind of like it. I start Rodgers with Jefferson for stronger defense, let Prince and Hartley anchor the 2nd unit offense.


Not sure why he’d do that when MoJeff is better than both imo. He can also trade up for a big guard like Nurse.


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TotalCardinalMove wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
Also our injured PG for theirs

Boyd and L. Allen for Jefferson (makes sense if he like Boyd and Allen as much as he seemed to, and they already know the offense he like to run.) Jefferson solves NY's PG problem and bring the shooting and 3rd offensive option to add to our two headed SG.

draft Nared at #10 and Mavunga at #22

Jefferson/Hartley
Rodgers/Prince
Zealous/Nared/R. Allen
Charles/Raincock-Ekunwe/Mavunga
Stokes/Vaugh or Zahui B or Swords or Free agent

I kind of like it. I start Rodgers with Jefferson for stronger defense, let Prince and Hartley anchor the 2nd unit offense.


Not sure why he’d do that when MoJeff is better than both imo. He can also trade up for a big guard like Nurse.


Most likely deshields...



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WNBA 09 wrote:
TotalCardinalMove wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
Also our injured PG for theirs

Boyd and L. Allen for Jefferson (makes sense if he like Boyd and Allen as much as he seemed to, and they already know the offense he like to run.) Jefferson solves NY's PG problem and bring the shooting and 3rd offensive option to add to our two headed SG.

draft Nared at #10 and Mavunga at #22

Jefferson/Hartley
Rodgers/Prince
Zealous/Nared/R. Allen
Charles/Raincock-Ekunwe/Mavunga
Stokes/Vaugh or Zahui B or Swords or Free agent

I kind of like it. I start Rodgers with Jefferson for stronger defense, let Prince and Hartley anchor the 2nd unit offense.


Not sure why he’d do that when MoJeff is better than both imo. He can also trade up for a big guard like Nurse.


Most likely deshields...


Yeah in a different thread I also have Laimbeer trading Plum and #13 to Seattle for #5 in an attempt to get Deshields.

I'm not sure he would trade Jefferson to NY but she is small and coming off an injury and he supposedly liked Boyd and L. Allen who already know his system. But yeah probably a little wishful thinking on my part. I never considered Jefferson in NY because laimbeer didn't like small guards but now I see her as a good solution for us. We could also maybe add the #10 pick as an option, maybe #10 and L. Allen or Boyd.

On a different note happy for Katie Smith.


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J-Spoon wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
TotalCardinalMove wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
Also our injured PG for theirs

Boyd and L. Allen for Jefferson (makes sense if he like Boyd and Allen as much as he seemed to, and they already know the offense he like to run.) Jefferson solves NY's PG problem and bring the shooting and 3rd offensive option to add to our two headed SG.

draft Nared at #10 and Mavunga at #22

Jefferson/Hartley
Rodgers/Prince
Zealous/Nared/R. Allen
Charles/Raincock-Ekunwe/Mavunga
Stokes/Vaugh or Zahui B or Swords or Free agent

I kind of like it. I start Rodgers with Jefferson for stronger defense, let Prince and Hartley anchor the 2nd unit offense.


Not sure why he’d do that when MoJeff is better than both imo. He can also trade up for a big guard like Nurse.


Most likely deshields...


Yeah in a different thread I also have Laimbeer trading Plum and #13 to Seattle for #5 in an attempt to get Deshields.

I'm not sure he would trade Jefferson to NY but she is small and coming off an injury and he supposedly liked Boyd and L. Allen who already know his system. But yeah probably a little wishful thinking on my part. I never considered Jefferson in NY because laimbeer didn't like small guards but now I see her as a good solution for us. We could also maybe add the #10 pick as an option, maybe #10 and L. Allen or Boyd.

On a different note happy for Katie Smith.

Can you imagine how good Jefferson could become if Spoon got to work with her. If she heels properly, I still believe Jefferson could become a really good player.


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Maybe Sugar Rodgers or Hartley for Jefferson (I would prefer Prince but don't see that as possible) I would like to get Jefferson and keep Rodgers because I think they would be a very complimentary back-court, but I would probably still make that trade (maybe throw in our 2nd round pick as well) If it solves our PG problem and the log jam of SGs.


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jmvcity wrote:
Wonder if T-Spoon will move to the bench as an assistant coach


If not T-Spoon, then maybe Tanisha Wright?



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VJ to NY or LV.



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I'm sad to see Bill Laimbeer go, but happy that Katie Smith is getting a chance to be a head coach.

This raises another question: who is our GM now? I can't say what went on behind closed doors, but I always felt that Laimbeer was the main GM. Will Katie Smith be GM without the title the same way I suspect Laimbeer was in recent years? Will she be named GM? Will Swin Cash become the GM?



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Will Herb Williams remain as a Lib assistant?



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UK1996 wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
TotalCardinalMove wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
Also our injured PG for theirs

Boyd and L. Allen for Jefferson (makes sense if he like Boyd and Allen as much as he seemed to, and they already know the offense he like to run.) Jefferson solves NY's PG problem and bring the shooting and 3rd offensive option to add to our two headed SG.

draft Nared at #10 and Mavunga at #22

Jefferson/Hartley
Rodgers/Prince
Zealous/Nared/R. Allen
Charles/Raincock-Ekunwe/Mavunga
Stokes/Vaugh or Zahui B or Swords or Free agent

I kind of like it. I start Rodgers with Jefferson for stronger defense, let Prince and Hartley anchor the 2nd unit offense.


Not sure why he’d do that when MoJeff is better than both imo. He can also trade up for a big guard like Nurse.


Most likely deshields...


Yeah in a different thread I also have Laimbeer trading Plum and #13 to Seattle for #5 in an attempt to get Deshields.

I'm not sure he would trade Jefferson to NY but she is small and coming off an injury and he supposedly liked Boyd and L. Allen who already know his system. But yeah probably a little wishful thinking on my part. I never considered Jefferson in NY because laimbeer didn't like small guards but now I see her as a good solution for us. We could also maybe add the #10 pick as an option, maybe #10 and L. Allen or Boyd.

On a different note happy for Katie Smith.

Can you imagine how good Jefferson could become if Spoon got to work with her. If she heels properly, I still believe Jefferson could become a really good player.


Why do people believe Teresa Weatherspoon is a brilliant coach? I'm sure she's good, but though there have been some players who have improved in New York, others have stayed the same or regressed.

Sure, she was a popular player, and she's in great physical condition, but those attributes do not necessarily translate to being a good one-on-one coach.



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How long has TSpoon been there? She's really only had Boyd & Rodgers long term. Boyd was out this season and Rodgers took a step back. Are we really going to judge her coaching based on two players?



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jmvcity wrote:
Katie Smith is the new Liberty head coach.

http://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/21014980/bill-laimbeer-san-antonio-stars-coach-gm-team-sold-relocated


Where are y'all reading that Katie Smith will be new coach for Liberty? None of the articles linked in this thread say anything about that. Does someone have inside intel?

BTW - I'd love to see Katie get the opportunity!


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Speebs56 wrote:
jmvcity wrote:
Katie Smith is the new Liberty head coach.

http://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/21014980/bill-laimbeer-san-antonio-stars-coach-gm-team-sold-relocated


Where are y'all reading that Katie Smith will be new coach for Liberty? None of the articles linked in this thread say anything about that. Does someone have inside intel?

BTW - I'd love to see Katie get the opportunity!


This is from the article:

Quote:
Laimbeer, who had been the head coach for the New York Liberty the previous five seasons, will be replaced by assistant coach Katie Smith, the source said.


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ClayK wrote:
UK1996 wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
TotalCardinalMove wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
Also our injured PG for theirs

Boyd and L. Allen for Jefferson (makes sense if he like Boyd and Allen as much as he seemed to, and they already know the offense he like to run.) Jefferson solves NY's PG problem and bring the shooting and 3rd offensive option to add to our two headed SG.

draft Nared at #10 and Mavunga at #22

Jefferson/Hartley
Rodgers/Prince
Zealous/Nared/R. Allen
Charles/Raincock-Ekunwe/Mavunga
Stokes/Vaugh or Zahui B or Swords or Free agent

I kind of like it. I start Rodgers with Jefferson for stronger defense, let Prince and Hartley anchor the 2nd unit offense.


Not sure why he’d do that when MoJeff is better than both imo. He can also trade up for a big guard like Nurse.


Most likely deshields...


Yeah in a different thread I also have Laimbeer trading Plum and #13 to Seattle for #5 in an attempt to get Deshields.

I'm not sure he would trade Jefferson to NY but she is small and coming off an injury and he supposedly liked Boyd and L. Allen who already know his system. But yeah probably a little wishful thinking on my part. I never considered Jefferson in NY because laimbeer didn't like small guards but now I see her as a good solution for us. We could also maybe add the #10 pick as an option, maybe #10 and L. Allen or Boyd.

On a different note happy for Katie Smith.

Can you imagine how good Jefferson could become if Spoon got to work with her. If she heels properly, I still believe Jefferson could become a really good player.


Why do people believe Teresa Weatherspoon is a brilliant coach? I'm sure she's good, but though there have been some players who have improved in New York, others have stayed the same or regressed.

Sure, she was a popular player, and she's in great physical condition, but those attributes do not necessarily translate to being a good one-on-one coach.


Because Bill Laimbeer said on this board that she was the best individual skills coach he had ever seen.



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NYL_WNBA_FAN wrote:
ClayK wrote:
UK1996 wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
TotalCardinalMove wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
Also our injured PG for theirs

Boyd and L. Allen for Jefferson (makes sense if he like Boyd and Allen as much as he seemed to, and they already know the offense he like to run.) Jefferson solves NY's PG problem and bring the shooting and 3rd offensive option to add to our two headed SG.

draft Nared at #10 and Mavunga at #22

Jefferson/Hartley
Rodgers/Prince
Zealous/Nared/R. Allen
Charles/Raincock-Ekunwe/Mavunga
Stokes/Vaugh or Zahui B or Swords or Free agent

I kind of like it. I start Rodgers with Jefferson for stronger defense, let Prince and Hartley anchor the 2nd unit offense.


Not sure why he’d do that when MoJeff is better than both imo. He can also trade up for a big guard like Nurse.


Most likely deshields...


Yeah in a different thread I also have Laimbeer trading Plum and #13 to Seattle for #5 in an attempt to get Deshields.

I'm not sure he would trade Jefferson to NY but she is small and coming off an injury and he supposedly liked Boyd and L. Allen who already know his system. But yeah probably a little wishful thinking on my part. I never considered Jefferson in NY because laimbeer didn't like small guards but now I see her as a good solution for us. We could also maybe add the #10 pick as an option, maybe #10 and L. Allen or Boyd.

On a different note happy for Katie Smith.

Can you imagine how good Jefferson could become if Spoon got to work with her. If she heels properly, I still believe Jefferson could become a really good player.


Why do people believe Teresa Weatherspoon is a brilliant coach? I'm sure she's good, but though there have been some players who have improved in New York, others have stayed the same or regressed.

Sure, she was a popular player, and she's in great physical condition, but those attributes do not necessarily translate to being a good one-on-one coach.


Because Bill Laimbeer said on this board that she was the best individual skills coach he had ever seen.


Thanks ... I had forgotten that.

Then again, I would still like to see more proof.



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I wonder if Katie Smith is going to bring an alteration in philosophy and approach. I’m also wondering if Bill saw SA/LV as a better opportunity or if there was kind of a mutual parting of the ways with the acknowledgment that Katie is ready for the job. She was given the title of associate head coach a couple of years ago. Seemed to me at the time she was sort of being groomed to eventually be the Libs’ head coach.



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toad455 wrote:
jmvcity wrote:
Wonder if T-Spoon will move to the bench as an assistant coach


If not T-Spoon, then maybe Tanisha Wright?


She would be a good choice whenever she's ready. Remember how she used to be in charge of the huddle back when she was playing?



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NYL_WNBA_FAN wrote:


Because Bill Laimbeer said on this board that she was the best individual skills coach he had ever seen.


You've never noticed Laimbeer boast about all things Liberty whether they deserved boasting about or not?



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Shades wrote:
NYL_WNBA_FAN wrote:


Because Bill Laimbeer said on this board that she was the best individual skills coach he had ever seen.


You've never noticed Laimbeer boast about all things Liberty whether they deserved boasting about or not?


Well...since we are not in the locker room I’m going with the guy who was.



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ClayK wrote:
NYL_WNBA_FAN wrote:
ClayK wrote:
UK1996 wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
TotalCardinalMove wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
Also our injured PG for theirs

Boyd and L. Allen for Jefferson (makes sense if he like Boyd and Allen as much as he seemed to, and they already know the offense he like to run.) Jefferson solves NY's PG problem and bring the shooting and 3rd offensive option to add to our two headed SG.

draft Nared at #10 and Mavunga at #22

Jefferson/Hartley
Rodgers/Prince
Zealous/Nared/R. Allen
Charles/Raincock-Ekunwe/Mavunga
Stokes/Vaugh or Zahui B or Swords or Free agent

I kind of like it. I start Rodgers with Jefferson for stronger defense, let Prince and Hartley anchor the 2nd unit offense.


Not sure why he’d do that when MoJeff is better than both imo. He can also trade up for a big guard like Nurse.


Most likely deshields...


Yeah in a different thread I also have Laimbeer trading Plum and #13 to Seattle for #5 in an attempt to get Deshields.

I'm not sure he would trade Jefferson to NY but she is small and coming off an injury and he supposedly liked Boyd and L. Allen who already know his system. But yeah probably a little wishful thinking on my part. I never considered Jefferson in NY because laimbeer didn't like small guards but now I see her as a good solution for us. We could also maybe add the #10 pick as an option, maybe #10 and L. Allen or Boyd.

On a different note happy for Katie Smith.

Can you imagine how good Jefferson could become if Spoon got to work with her. If she heels properly, I still believe Jefferson could become a really good player.


Why do people believe Teresa Weatherspoon is a brilliant coach? I'm sure she's good, but though there have been some players who have improved in New York, others have stayed the same or regressed.

Sure, she was a popular player, and she's in great physical condition, but those attributes do not necessarily translate to being a good one-on-one coach.


Because Bill Laimbeer said on this board that she was the best individual skills coach he had ever seen.


Thanks ... I had forgotten that.

Then again, I would still like to see more proof.


That’s fair. I know Bill is prone to hyperbole. OTOH he really didn’t have to say anything about her at all. So I’m sure she’s good. Her B-ball IQ and work ethic are pretty high.

Coaching can possibly only take certain players so far. Perhaps there will be more positive evidence this year.



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