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Can that happen?
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PostPosted: 08/23/17 8:39 pm    ::: Ref question of the day Reply Reply with quote

Can a player stumble of her own accord on a drive, lose control of the ball, have the ball end up wedged under her body, and still call time out?




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PostPosted: 08/23/17 9:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

See no reason why not, as long as she doesn't travel with the ball while falling. To get the timeout she just needs to be in lone possession of the ball, and having it trapped under her and no one else fighting for it seems to meet that prerequisite.



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PostPosted: 08/23/17 9:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

She can if she is Sue Bird. Even our in arena announcer cheered for her when he introduced her. Right before he said the Storm's coach was Jenny Boucek.


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PostPosted: 08/24/17 3:46 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

justintyme wrote:
See no reason why not, as long as she doesn't travel with the ball while falling. To get the timeout she just needs to be in lone possession of the ball, and having it trapped under her and no one else fighting for it seems to meet that prerequisite.


I agree nobody from the Dream had their hands on the ball so it couldnt be a jumpball instead.



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PostPosted: 08/24/17 10:10 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I think the key is "lose control of the ball" ... if she falls over while she has the ball and isn't dribbling, it's a travel.

If she loses the ball, standing up or lying down, she can recover it (though not dribble again). Once she has possession, she can call time out.



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PostPosted: 08/24/17 10:51 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

You should probably review the play by video. The commentators didn't like that she was able to call time out, but they may have been biased. In the screenshot above, she never has control of the ball with her hands before she calls time out. The ball just ends up in that funky place you see it at. She may have traveled too, but obviously the refs didn't catch it. The refs in general seem pretty lenient on calling a travel when a player falls down, especially with a highly respected player like Bird. Such a player would never fall down of her own accord and goof up like that. It was kinda embarrassing. Might have slipped on a wet spot.



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PostPosted: 08/24/17 11:13 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'm not sure which is the more shocking thing you seem to be suggesting Shades - that the home announcers for a WNBA game might biased or that refs might give a superstar a superstar call.


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PostPosted: 08/24/17 11:34 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
In the screenshot above, she never has control of the ball with her hands before she calls time out. The ball just ends up in that funky place you see it at.

The rule says nothing about hands. She just has to have sole possession. That means it is a subjective call on the part of the refs as to what constitutes "possession". Here the ball is not moving and is trapped under her body. She could have reached down and held it in her hands, but she instead used those hands to make the timeout sign. So the ball is being controled by her body, and no Dream player is making a play for the ball. This seems like a fairly easy call for the ref to make. Had a Dream player been on the ground reaching for the ball and a timeout was granted, then the call would have been suspect.



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PostPosted: 08/24/17 3:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Randy wrote:
I'm not sure which is the more shocking thing you seem to be suggesting Shades - that the home announcers for a WNBA game might biased or that refs might give a superstar a superstar call.


He is used to superstar calls. His team has Maya



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