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| Who should win Rookie of the Year? |
| Allisha Gray |
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| Kelsey Plum |
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| Brittney Sykes |
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45% |
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| someone else |
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Rock Hard
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 Posted: 08/15/17 8:33 pm ::: |
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| My vote goes to Sykes because she does not fall on her ass all the time when she shoots jump shots trying to get the refs to call a foul on the defensive player.😆
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| Posted: 08/15/17 8:47 pm ::: |
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As of tonight's game:
Sykes 380 points/29 games. (663 minutes)
Gray 380 points/29 games. (806 minutes)
This is getting close. Does anyone know if this is the closest ROY contest ever? Every one I recall was pretty much a runaway for one player.
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| Posted: 08/15/17 9:07 pm ::: |
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| Randy wrote: |
As of tonight's game:
Sykes 380 points/29 games. (663 minutes)
Gray 380 points/29 games. (806 minutes)
This is getting close. Does anyone know if this is the closest ROY contest ever? Every one I recall was pretty much a runaway for one player. |
1998 & 2015 seem to be the only "close" ROY races.
1998
20 - Tracy Reid, Charlotte
18 - Korie Hlede, Detroit
7 - Ticha Penicheiro, Sacramento
1999
48 - Chamique Holdsclaw, Washington
1 - Dominique Canty, Detroit
1 - Nykesha Sales, Orlando
1 - Tamika Whitmore, New York
2000
59 - Betty Lennox, Minnesota
1 - Edwina Brown, Detroit
1 - Marla Brumfield, Minnesota
1 - Adrian Williams, Phoenix
2001
32 - Jackie Stiles, Portland
20 - Lauren Jackson, Seattle
5 - Marie Ferdinand, Utah
2 - Svetlana Abrosimova, Minnesota
1 - Ruth Riley, Miami
2002
48 - Tamika Catchings, Indiana
8 - Sue Bird, Seattle
3 - Swin Cash, Detroit
1 - Nikki Teasley, Los Angeles
2003
49 - Cheryl Ford, Detroit
2 - LaToya Thomas, Cleveland
2 - Gwen Jackson, San Antonio
1 - Kara Lawson, Sacramento
2004
42 - Diana Taurasi, Phoenix
4 - Alana Beard, Washington
2 - Nicole Ohlde, Minnesota
2005
44 - Temeka Johnson, Washington
3 - Katie Feenstra, San Antonio
2 - Tan White, Indiana
1 - Suzy Batkovic, Seattle
2006
34 - Seimone Augustus, Minnesota
20 - Cappie Pondexter, Phoenix
2 - Sophia Young, San Antonio
2007
30 - Armintie Price, Chicago
12 - Lindsey Harding, Minnesota
10 - Sidney Spencer, Los Angeles
2008
45 - Candace Parker, Los Angeles
2009
30 - Angel McCoughtry, Atlanta
9 - Dewanna Bonner, Phoenix
2 - Shavonte Zellous, Detroit
2010
39 - Tina Charles, Connecticut
2011
38 - Maya Moore, Minnesota
2 - Danielle Adams, San Antonio
2012
39 - Nneka Ogwumike, Los Angeles
1 - Glory Johnson, Tulsa
1 - Samantha Prahalis, Phoenix
2013
39 - Elena Delle Donne, Chicago
2014
23 - Chiney Ogwumike, Connecticut
12 - Odyssey Sims, Tulsa
2 - Kayla McBride, San Antonio
1 - Shoni Schimmel, Atlanta
2015
21 - Jewell Loyd, Seattle
16 - Kiah Stokes, New York
2 - Natalie Achonwa, Indiana
2016
38 - Breanna Stewart, Seattle
1 - Moriah Jefferson, San Antonio
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| Posted: 08/15/17 9:09 pm ::: |
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| Posted: 08/15/17 11:06 pm ::: |
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1998
20 - Tracy Reid, Charlotte
18 - Korie Hlede, Detroit
7 - Ticha Penicheiro, Sacramento
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I wonder how many people who voted for Tracy Reid or Korie Hlede would stand behind their vote in 2017?
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| Posted: 08/15/17 11:09 pm ::: |
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You were looking for closeness in voting numbers instead of point scoring?
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Shades
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| Posted: 08/15/17 11:11 pm ::: |
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| Randy wrote: |
As of tonight's game:
Sykes 380 points/29 games. (663 minutes)
Gray 380 points/29 games. (806 minutes)
This is getting close. Does anyone know if this is the closest ROY contest ever? Every one I recall was pretty much a runaway for one player. |
If it's too close to call on scoring points, it's hard not seeing them referencing the shooting percentages.
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| Posted: 08/15/17 11:12 pm ::: |
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1998
20 - Tracy Reid, Charlotte
18 - Korie Hlede, Detroit
7 - Ticha Penicheiro, Sacramento
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I wonder how many people who voted for Tracy Reid or Korie Hlede would stand behind their vote in 2017? |
If they were truly basing it on who had the best rookie season, without considering the career that came after, I'd guess all the Reid voters and most of the Hlede voters would stay the same. The real question is why nobody voted for Margo Dydek, who clearly had a better rookie year than Hlede or Penicheiro.
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| Posted: 08/16/17 8:00 am ::: |
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1998
20 - Tracy Reid, Charlotte
18 - Korie Hlede, Detroit
7 - Ticha Penicheiro, Sacramento
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I wonder how many people who voted for Tracy Reid or Korie Hlede would stand behind their vote in 2017? |
Id still vote for Korie she was such a spark plug for that detroit franchise that year with Sandy Brondello ! I loved watching them especially when they got Wendy Palmer & Jenn Azzi !
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| Posted: 08/19/17 9:30 pm ::: |
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| Head to head did it for me tonight. Alicia was more efficient, scored more, and her team won. The choice would be clear for me if I were a voter for the award
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| Posted: 08/19/17 9:41 pm ::: |
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| Head to head did it for me tonight. Brittney was more efficient, scored more. Her team didn't win, but that's not a factor for ROY. Also, 4 more rebounds and 2 more assists. The choice would be clear for me if I were a voter for the award.
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| Posted: 08/19/17 9:49 pm ::: |
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| Head to head did it for me tonight. Alicia was more efficient, scored more, and her team won. The choice would be clear for me if I were a voter for the award |
15 is more than 17? 4/10, 40%, is more efficient than 7/15, 47%? Three rebounds and one assist is better than seven rebounds and three assists?
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| Posted: 08/19/17 11:37 pm ::: |
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| Head to head did it for me tonight. Alicia was more efficient, scored more, and her team won. The choice would be clear for me if I were a voter for the award |
15 is more than 17? 4/10, 40%, is more efficient than 7/15, 47%? Three rebounds and one assist is better than seven rebounds and three assists? |
Sorry, last I checked my WNBA app, they both only had 12 then I was watching on TV. Sykes didn't really stand out.
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| Posted: 08/20/17 2:11 am ::: |
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| Solution... Co-MVP's. It's an extraordinary, close year for ROY!
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| Solution... Co-MVP's. It's an extraordinary, close year for ROY! |
It'll feel like a fix if that happens, considering each individual voter has to pick someone. I also wouldn't be at all surprised if a few of them go with Plum, just to complicate things. |
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| Not wanting to be a Plum apologist for her slow start, but just watching some of the games it seemed that opposing players gave her a lot more defensive pressure (double teams etc ) than normal. I guess she had a target on her back to start out with. This is very typical when a player comes into the league with so much hype. Players resent that and often make an extra effort prove the hype wrong. It seems as the season wore the pressure on her sort of wore itself out into something more normal.
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| Not wanting to be a Plum apologist for her slow start, but just watching some of the games it seemed that opposing players gave her a lot more defensive pressure (double teams etc ) than normal. I guess she had a target on her back to start out with. This is very typical when a player comes into the league with so much hype. Players resent that and often make an extra effort prove the hype wrong. It seems as the season wore the pressure on her sort of wore itself out into something more normal. |
You're making it a player resentment thing when it's more likely coaches testing out a rookie PG to see if she can handle the pressure. Do the coaches not call out the double team?
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| Posted: 08/20/17 3:25 pm ::: |
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| Not wanting to be a Plum apologist for her slow start, but just watching some of the games it seemed that opposing players gave her a lot more defensive pressure (double teams etc ) than normal. I guess she had a target on her back to start out with. This is very typical when a player comes into the league with so much hype. Players resent that and often make an extra effort prove the hype wrong. It seems as the season wore the pressure on her sort of wore itself out into something more normal. |
You're making it a player resentment thing when it's more likely coaches testing out a rookie PG to see if she can handle the pressure. Do the coaches not call out the double team? |
They attacked her because they thought they could exploit her ball handling weaknesses. Same thing happened with Shoni - they attacked on offense because they knew she was a weak defender, and some teams (Indiana for sure) went after her ball handling as well. It wasn't because of Shoni hype but rather it was the way to win. Same for Plum and opposing teams.
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| Posted: 08/21/17 6:47 am ::: |
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| Head to head did it for me tonight. Alicia was more efficient, scored more, and her team won. The choice would be clear for me if I were a voter for the award |
15 is more than 17? 4/10, 40%, is more efficient than 7/15, 47%? Three rebounds and one assist is better than seven rebounds and three assists? |
15 points on 10 shots is indeed more efficient than 17 points on 15 shots.
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Padding stats while down 30 puts her up front for sure ! Does success matter to anyone on here? Even ATLs commentator Lachina stated it might come down to who makes the playoffs or finishes better. ATL doesn't look to likely to qualify...
