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ArtBest23



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PostPosted: 08/04/17 2:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Well, the list is remarkably predictable:

Atkins
Billings
Brown
Canada
Durr
Ionescu
McPhee
Mitchell
Nared
Ogunbowale
Russell
Wilson


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PostPosted: 08/04/17 3:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Congrats to Britt. I certainly am pleasantly surprised that she made it onto the team. I wonder how she's improved this year.


Pac-12 Flavor as Canada, Billings, Ionescu, and McPhee make it.

SEC with Nared, Russell, and Wilson.


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PostPosted: 08/04/17 3:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

FollowtheCardinalRule wrote:
Congrats to Britt. I certainly am pleasantly surprised that she made it onto the team. I wonder how she's improved this year.


Pac-12 Flavor as Canada, Billings, Ionescu, and McPhee make it.

SEC with Nared, Russell, and Wilson.


Yeah, I'm surprised McPhee made it but hopefully that is a good omen for us this year. I'm guessing she was one of the ones benefiting from the absence of the UConn contingent.

PS nice to see you on the board.



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PostPosted: 08/04/17 3:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I agree Glenn. I was told it was to set the tone and pace of the try outs but it seems like a heck of a lot of traveling etc.

Almost seems like they were keeping a lot of college coaches happy by spreading the wealth, noticed Moore didn't make it with Walz as the coach after her transfer😉.


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PostPosted: 08/04/17 4:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Interesting (to me) that Slocum, Vivians and Anigwe didn't make it.



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PostPosted: 08/04/17 4:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
Interesting (to me) that Slocum, Vivians and Anigwe didn't make it.


i was just about to bring that up, especially Victoria Vivians. that's not a sign i was hoping she would make it. i watched a fews mins of it couldn't watch the whole thing cuz the stream was garbage but from what i've saw Mitchell and Nared was gettin buckets together

starting lineup i think

Canada
Mitchell
Nared
Billings
Wilson

that's kinda scary folks...im curious though if the UCONN players were available who wouldn't of made the team


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PostPosted: 08/04/17 4:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PODCAST: Talking USA Basketball U-23 with AP’s Doug Feinberg

http://summitthoops.com/2017/08/04/podcast-talking-usa-basketball/


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PostPosted: 08/04/17 6:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
Thanks. Any news re Katelynn Flaherty?


Minor injury of some sort that will not keep her out of her senior season.


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PostPosted: 08/04/17 7:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So happy Jaime Nared and Mercedes Russell made the team. Go big Orange, Love the Lady Vol's.


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PostPosted: 08/04/17 8:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

bballjunkie wrote:
I agree Glenn. I was told it was to set the tone and pace of the try outs but it seems like a heck of a lot of traveling etc.

Almost seems like they were keeping a lot of college coaches happy by spreading the wealth, noticed Moore didn't make it with Walz as the coach after her transfer😉.


Glenn seemed to have a missconception of what this is all about. In his OP he referred to the "U23 "Games" as if this was some sort of FIBA sponsored championship when in fact it is little more than a sort of Junkeroo Jam, limited to 4 teams, except it's being held half way around the world. If there is any waste of money it's the round robin tournament itself, which seems to be litttle more than a bunch of developmental scrimmages whose purpose is to evaluate the cream of college basketball with an eye to see who will be invited to the tryouts for the next Olympics and going forward from there. And in that respect it would be natural to invite the 3 AA's from UConn along with the current and erstwhile Duke players.

If frugality was a concern they would have saved all those plane fares to and stratospheric hotel prices in Tokyo and just had the 40 players stay in Colorado and play against each other, which in all likelihood would provide better competition than what they will face in Japan.


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PostPosted: 08/05/17 1:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
Interesting (to me) that Slocum, Vivians and Anigwe didn't make it.


I suspect Anigwe's absence is due to her lack of versatility. For all her tremendous skill in the low post she still needs some work playing outside.


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PostPosted: 08/05/17 4:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

LibFan25 wrote:
starting lineup i think

Canada
Mitchell
Nared
Billings
Wilson

that's kinda scary folks...im curious though if the UCONN players were available who wouldn't of made the team


That would mean the bench would be Russell + 6 guards. Not very balanced. I think Durr gets the start at the 3 over Nared.


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PostPosted: 08/05/17 4:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

double post


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PostPosted: 08/05/17 4:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PickledGinger wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
starting lineup i think

Canada
Mitchell
Nared
Billings
Wilson

that's kinda scary folks...im curious though if the UCONN players were available who wouldn't of made the team


That would mean the bench would be Russell + 6 guards. Not very balanced. I think Durr gets the start at the 3 over Nared.


or i could see Atkins who is 5'11 or McPhee at 6-0 get the start, we'll see. talent of riches


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PostPosted: 08/05/17 5:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Wilson out (groin strain). Linnae Harper in.


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PostPosted: 08/05/17 9:20 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

lynxmania wrote:
Wilson out (groin strain). Linnae Harper in.


Leaving them with only 3 players over 6-0. Does that put McPhee and Atkins in the post rotation? 😳


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PostPosted: 08/05/17 11:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Is this the first year of a U23 Team? I've never heard of such a team. Like WNBA players could play in this. That seems pretty old for an age-specific team.



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PostPosted: 08/05/17 11:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
5thmantheme wrote:
I'm curious about why the U23's in the WNBA weren't picked, like Brionna Jones will be U23 for the next year too. DDeShields is another.


Well, the USAB release linked in the first post of this thread said "Athletes eligible for this team must be U.S. citizens who are 23 years old or younger and currently are freshmen, sophomores or juniors in college.". So I suspect that provides your answer.

OK. So I just read this post. But some of these players are clearly seniors. Maybe because they haven't entered their senior year yet IDK. But my statement still stands that this is pretty old for an age-specific event.



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PostPosted: 08/05/17 11:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PickledGinger wrote:
lynxmania wrote:
Wilson out (groin strain). Linnae Harper in.


Leaving them with only 3 players over 6-0. Does that put McPhee and Atkins in the post rotation? 😳


Yeah, that's pretty weird they would add Harper instead of another real big. atkins maybe. McPhee no way. Guess they may play some small ball.



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PostPosted: 08/06/17 12:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

With Wilson out it seems that Anigwe would have been a perfect replacement.


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PostPosted: 08/06/17 12:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

calbearman76 wrote:
With Wilson out it seems that Anigwe would have been a perfect replacement.


Unless Anigwe didn't impress in camp. It's hard to tell sometimes what the committee is thinking.


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PostPosted: 08/06/17 5:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PickledGinger wrote:
lynxmania wrote:
Wilson out (groin strain). Linnae Harper in.


Leaving them with only 3 players over 6-0. Does that put McPhee and Atkins in the post rotation? 😳


Jeff Walz, the HC, favors guard heavy teams... it's his style. Coaches have their styles.. Dawn probably would've had 3 or 4 versatile forward/centers and 2 or 3 more Jamie Nared/Napheesa Collier type guard/forwards on this team because Dawn loves forwards. When you're cherry picking from the best this is the only opportunity coaches have to build their "dream" rosters..


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PostPosted: 08/07/17 11:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I am not sure which thread would be best, but Canada has named this squad for this tournament, which will then head to Taiwan for the World University Games:
http://www.basketball.ca/en/news-article/development

If you were anticipating that I would do the usual rosters for the World University Games, I think that I will not be doing it for that tournament in light of other international play this summer that actually falls under the FIBA banner.
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PostPosted: 08/08/17 11:09 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

awhom111 wrote:
I am not sure which thread would be best, but Canada has named this squad for this tournament, which will then head to Taiwan for the World University Games:
http://www.basketball.ca/en/news-article/development



The opposite of the US. Most over 6'0.



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PostPosted: 08/09/17 2:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Podcast with Jeff Walz on the team and the training camp process.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/dishin-and-swishin/2017/08/08/dishin-swishin-talking-with-coach-walz-of-the-u23-usa-basketball-team


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PostPosted: 08/09/17 5:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

dtsnms wrote:
Podcast with Jeff Walz on the team and the training camp process.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/dishin-and-swishin/2017/08/08/dishin-swishin-talking-with-coach-walz-of-the-u23-usa-basketball-team


Thanks. Always interesting. He's pretty PC of course, but that is to be expected.



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PostPosted: 08/11/17 8:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Official rosters:
http://u24league2017-women.japanbasketball.jp/japan
http://u24league2017-women.japanbasketball.jp/team_detail/344
http://u24league2017-women.japanbasketball.jp/team_detail/373
http://u24league2017-women.japanbasketball.jp/team_detail/1056
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PostPosted: 08/12/17 11:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I guess that there's not much to talk about since we can't actually see the games. It will be interesting to see if Australia is still the World University Games favorites. Japan beat Canada fairly decisively.
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PostPosted: 08/13/17 9:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The US slaughtered Canada today, 107-61.

I guess speed and skill trump height.

Article, box score and pictures at
https://www.usab.com/news-events/news/2017/08/wu23-game-02-can.aspx

USA is now 2-0, Canada is 0-2, Australia and Japan are each 1-1.


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PostPosted: 08/13/17 11:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
ClayK wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
I doubt they rolled Geno out and named him "Lead Clinician" unless they intended to teach improved skills and considered it necessary.

Good to hear though that Ionescu has no need of Geno's tutelage.

Watching basically a same age group USAB team lose in the Pan Am Games two years ago, I doubt I would conclude that fundamental skills are beyond need of improvement at this age level.


Of course Sabrina needs Geno's tutelage. A couple hours one-on-one would be tremendous.

But doing dribbling drills is hardly the same as getting instruction from Geno, and that's what Sabrina is saying.

Even at the high school level, mass drills are inherently inefficient because some players are much better at some things than others, and you don't want to dumb down the drill to the lowest common denominator, or, at the other hand, do drills that half the team can't.

The players need instruction, preferably one-on-one, not group drills.


Well, I think we've beaten this to death, but she didn't say anything remotely close to your characterization. There is nothing in her comment suggesting "I could really use individual skills training but don't find group lessons helpful."

No, she said basically "I don't need no stinking skills practice. Our skills are great already."

“I like being able to go out here and play a little more than just doing some skill stuff, just because everyone at this level is pretty good at the skill stuff."


That doesn't mean if she is offered individual training she would turn it down or that she doesn't do individual training, she is talking about within the context of the training camp as the description of her quote says "on the competitive, tournament format of the U23 training camp." Do you even know what question she was specific asked to which she replied with that answer to say she believes she doesn't need any skills practice? Because it is unfair to her to assume something based on a small quote that USA Basketball included in a story.



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PostPosted: 08/14/17 8:25 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So Jeff Walz does finally get to coach Mercedes Russell Wink


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PostPosted: 08/15/17 8:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Another win without any issues. I wonder if Jeff will send scouting reports on the three teams to help Brenda.
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PostPosted: 08/15/17 11:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I wonder if Jeff will send scouting reports on the three teams to help Brenda.


. . . and if he does, will she read them. Laughing


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PostPosted: 08/16/17 11:58 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Laughing
Lots of one on one. Some didn't listen to the words of wisdom at camp that it is about the team looking for the best shot 😉


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bballjunkie wrote:
Laughing
Lots of one on one. Some didn't listen to the words of wisdom at camp that it is about the team looking for the best shot 😉


Did you watch the three games? Are they online somewhere? Can you provide a link please? Thanks.


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PostPosted: 08/16/17 9:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
awhom111 wrote:
I wonder if Jeff will send scouting reports on the three teams to help Brenda.


. . . and if he does, will she read them. Laughing


He'll need to use numbers not names.



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